Ron Paul's First Ad - as per his facebook

[sailingaway]

...And independents are overly concerned about the debt ceiling right now....?

Listen, the proof will be in the pudding. We'll see if this ad has any significant or measurable effect.

I think very few ads in themselves have much effect. I think they can influence someone to be open to a candidate when they have closed their minds, though. Ron never got the 'new candidate bump' all the others did. He needed something to make people take another look. This could help with that imho, but it will still be Ron being Ron that makes the difference.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

Be honest, would you have kept watching or listening intently if you didn't know you were watching the first Ron Paul ad in a "campaign that's serious?"

To me, it doesn't convey strength or leadership. In fact, I found the message to be fairly vague.

Honestly I loved it. My first thought was 'this is exactly what we need to do to win their votes.'

 

[sailingaway]

The mainstream leaders are all about it, but go ask your average voter if the debt ceiling is a concern to them right now. 9 times out of 10 I wager they don't give a damn. It's simply the "news of the week." It's not an issue that sways voters. Why do you think Paul Ryan's 5 minutes of fame are up after his grand proposal?

Ordinary people are pissed as hell about it on twitter. Mostly I don't think it is the debt ceiling per se, it is about politicians not doing what they say they will do when they are elected. But this ad goes to that, too.

Also, we hope to peal away a lot of people who supported Obama. He wasn't the change they were looking for, was he?

There was a poll here recently about what party were you before 2004. Of those who had been old enough to vote, half of us were Republicans, but half were split between various other parties. Including a bunch of Democrats. Ron is a catalyst.

Paul Ryan's 4 minutes of fame are up because he is not believable as a fiscal conservative. He voted for TARP, for no child left behind, etc etc etc. His budget plan, which Bachmann voted for, would require raising the debt ceiling for the next 20 years, and gives new benefits to special interests while cutting entitlements -- not a way to sell a painful process.

 

[newbitech]

1. No because you did support him. So your opinion is bunk anyway.
2. The mainstream leaders are all about it, but go ask your average voter if the debt ceiling is a concern to them right now. 9 times out of 10 I wager they don't give a damn. It's simply the "news of the week." It's not an issue that sways voters. Why do you think Paul Ryan's 5 minutes of fame are up after his grand proposal?

1.) You are lying.
2.) I think the average voter is being led by the nose of the mainstream leaders. It's not just news of the week, it has been a core principle in Ron Paul's platform. Sound monetary policy. Now the issue is front and center and that is what this ad is all about, Ron Paul has been a leader on this issue for a long time.

It is Ron Paul's influence that swept in the GOP congress people that are forcing the issue this time. He deserves as much credit as Newt Gingrinch if not more so for reviving a party that was widely perceived as taking the nation off a cliff in the years after the 9/11 sheen wore off.

I think you have a healthy pessimism, but your analysis of this effect of this timely, clear, and distinguishing ad seem to be short on attention, to details. No the people viewing this won't see it, but this IMO has a chance to be a masterful piece of "Paulpaganda". It should carry the momentum we are seeing in from other areas.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

This is failure 101. Paul Ryan tried to reach stardom by making it his and he's back to being a nobody. It's simply not an issue anyone cares about, as dire as it is.

I cannot believe the majority hear honestly thinks a hard-to-follow ad about the debt ceiling is going to win over a faith-heavy populous in Iowa. It's the wrong message and it's certainly the wrong audience.

He's making this debt ceiling thing his - he's making himself the candidate who will say NO to spending, and stand up to Obama, the Democrats, and weak Republican leadership.

The debt ceiling is symbolic of Obama's attitude toward spending, and the attitude of establishment Republican leadership towards real spending cuts - because you know they are going to cave in!

By making ads about this issue, the campaign is trying to OWN it. In the next debate, the moderators will say Congressman Paul, you have been the only candidate spending money and campaigning on your distaste for spending and raising the debt ceiling, (insert question). Don't you see the value in making Ron Paul the candidate who's opposed to raising the debt ceiling and continuing the fiscal gluttony of the establishment?

This is branding 101. Ron's crew has decided he is going to make this his cause célèbre. Ron Paul: The candidate against spending, against raising the debt ceiling.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

You're speculating.

1. Twitter, in no way, represents the general population. I would argue this is most evident in our massive support on the internet. Compare that to our waning support in the real world. It's a disconnect.

2. Once again, you guys are operating under the assumption that, somehow, the general population will cherry-pick the candidate that's "really" about change this time. There were candidates "really" about change last election cycle, too, but you don't even realize it as you were stunned by the marketing the Obama campaign pulled. You make it as if he was the only candidate touting a change in 2008. Hell, everyone in the democratic party was doing it. He just faked it better.

Yep, we'll change their mind this time, just like hopefuls have been trying and failing to do since 1913. People don't just wake up....learn from history.

Again, wrong message, wrong audience, wrong focus.

Ordinary people are pissed as hell about it on twitter. Mostly I don't think it is the debt ceiling per se, it is about politicians not doing what they say they will do when they are elected. But this ad goes to that, too.

Also, we hope to peal away a lot of people who supported Obama. He wasn't the change they were looking for, was he?

 

[newbitech]

This is failure 101. Paul Ryan tried to reach stardom by making it his and he's back to being a nobody. It's simply not an issue anyone cares about, as dire as it is.

I cannot believe the majority hear honestly thinks a hard-to-follow ad about the debt ceiling is going to win over a faith-heavy populous in Iowa. It's the wrong message and it's certainly the wrong audience.

Read this. You are wrong.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/mar/22/nation/la-na-iowa-conservatives-2012-20110322

 

[rockandrollsouls]

You are wrong.

To the average voter, "Jobs = economy."
"Federal Reserve, Debt Ceiling, Inflation does NOT equal economy"

I'm telling you with certainty the average American doesn't give a damn about the debt ceiling and it's all theatrics until the next filler story comes along.

Read this. You are wrong.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/mar/22/nation/la-na-iowa-conservatives-2012-20110322

 

[svobody]

This is failure 101. Paul Ryan tried to reach stardom by making it his and he's back to being a nobody. It's simply not an issue anyone cares about, as dire as it is.

I cannot believe the majority hear honestly thinks a hard-to-follow ad about the debt ceiling is going to win over a faith-heavy populous in Iowa. It's the wrong message and it's certainly the wrong audience.

Do you have a marketing or advertising background? Because, you do realize, that you have to brand yourself to win, right? Everybody and their mother is going to be running "I'M A JOB CREATOR" ads. Ron isn't going to do that, because he doesn't profess to be one. He needs to stand out in order to win. Playing it safe will not work. This election, will be about the economy. Even in Iowa. So let's leave the social issue pandering to Santorum, or later on. People have the perception that Ron isn't a conservative. This ad says he is more conservative than weak GOP leadership. People think Ron is a weak old man. This is a very strong looking ad. THIS AD ISN'T ABOUT THE DEBT CEILING! It's just the issue they've chosen to deliver the message of his commitment to fiscal responsibility. The debt ceiling is a vehicle, that's it. And I think you're underestimating how much people care about this issue. When I listen to local talk radio, they can't talk about it enough.

 

[Wren]

I thought it was fantastic but I would have liked to hear them mention RP's 30+ year track record toward the end when they brought him into view.

 

[specsaregood]

This ad is going to be make Dr. Paul appear even more prescient when the GOP caves.

 

[r3volution1776]

Just announced a large ad campaign in Iowa and NH on Politico with this ad...

 

[svobody]

Also, let's try to remember that this is the type of ad that will get people talking. It's cinematic - I showed this to a family member, who doesn't care about politics, and their first comment was "Wow, that was really cool and I actually want to watch it again". This is the kind of ad people will watch, and if they're conservative, it will make them emotional. They will get angry about Obama, and they will associate Ron Paul with wanting to kick his ass.

 

[rockandrollsouls]

Lovely. Huge advertising budget shot with a mediocre ad.

I hope you're all happy that this is the ad that's getting most of the spotlight. Personally, I think it's ridiculous, a mistake, and will sink him. It's simply not inspiring.

Just announced a large ad campaign in Iowa and NH on Politico with this ad...

 

[Maximus]

This is some kick ass, stuff, brilliant

 

[tsai3904]

I'm telling you with certainty the average American doesn't give a damn about the debt ceiling and it's all theatrics until the next filler story comes along.

Michele Bachmann ran an ad in Iowa pledging not to raise the debt ceiling. The debt ceiling is what's on everyone's mind right now because that's all that is discussed on tv. It will stay that way until it is resolved and it will no doubt be the center of attention during the August 11 debate. Ron Paul is trying to win the straw poll a month away. He needs to focus on topics that are relevant right now.

 

[specsaregood]

I hope you're all happy that this is the ad that's getting most of the spotlight. Personally, I think it's ridiculous, a mistake, and will sink him. It's simply not inspiring.

I am very happy. Personally I think you are ridiculous, a mistake and simply not inspiring. So there is that....

 

[AdamT]

I have to admit that was pretty damn good. Official campaign +1.

 

[svobody]

Lovely. Huge advertising budget shot with a mediocre ad.

I hope you're all happy that this is the ad that's getting most of the spotlight. Personally, I think it's ridiculous, a mistake, and will sink him. It's simply not inspiring.

Show me a better ad from any other candidate. That's been released so far. Romney must have a better one, what with his 20 million, right? Only not, and I've watched every official piece of video his campaign has put out.

 

[Maximus]

70% of Americans don't think the debt ceiling should be lifted. Guess how much of that population are people voting in our primary. This ad is brilliant. Haters gonna hate.