The Israeli government would wipe out the Palestinians if they could. Does that count? Also, Israel's game is stealing land. They took Golan Heights because the Syrians had an advantage from a high position to attack Israel. Now, the Israelis are claiming that they cannot return the land they stole in the West Bank because it would allow the Palestinians to fire rockets at Israelis from a much shorter distance. Steal land, then claim it is done in the name of "national security". Cram all the Palestinians into Gaza and then poison them. If the Israelis can treat their neighbors this way, what would prevent them from treating anybody and everybody this way if it is to their benefit?
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The Israeli government would wipe out the Palestinians if they could. Does that count? Also, Israel's game is stealing land. They took Golan Heights because the Syrians had an advantage from a high position to attack Israel. Now, the Israelis are claiming that they cannot return the land they stole in the West Bank because it would allow the Palestinians to fire rockets at Israelis from a much shorter distance. Steal land, then claim it is done in the name of "national security". Cram all the Palestinians into Gaza and then poison them. If the Israelis can treat their neighbors this way, what would prevent them from treating anybody and everybody this way if it is to their benefit?
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Mr. Davis, Ron Paul has nothing to do with this website, and never has. It was started by a grassroots supporter before the last election.
Ron Paul's message of peace, liberty and prosperity attracts supporters from across the political spectrum and I can assure you that forum members often do not agree on a variety of things.
Dr. Paul's stance is that the U.S. government should not be giving foreign aid to any country. This is in keeping with the stance of our Founding Fathers. Read George Washington's Farewell Address where he warned us not to entangle alliances.
Are you sure that our current foreign policy is beneficial to Israel? Think about it for a minute, the way it stands now, the U.S. government gives aid to Israel and also to Israel's enemies. To keep getting that aid, Israel has to ask our government's permission before they defend themselves. How is this in Israel's best interest?
Dr. Paul wants Israel to be able to act in their own self-interest and make those decisions for themselves what they need to do to defend her. In addition, nothing is stopping any and all U.S. citizens, such as yourself, to send your own money to Israel.
If you stop and think about it sir, I think you will see that Dr. Paul is much more of a friend to Israel than those who have and are arming her enemies and forcing Israel to ask permission before they defend their own country.
In the end, the United States and Israel are two separate countries and the U.S. government's duty has to be to the United States.
Note: You may want to visit www.campaignforliberty.com. That is an organization founded by Ron Paul.
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Again, Israel would not wipe out Palestinians. They didn't steal the land. They won it after they were attacked by the Syrians. "Cram them into to Gaza and Poison them" Give me a break. The Palistinians don't want peace. They get back what they earn.
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have you been folowing the news lately?
and what difference does Israel being a democracy make? Apartheid South Africa was ahead of most of it's neighbors in many ways and more "Western". It's a property issue. The arabs who had been there for the preceding 18 CENTURIES never agreed to zionism.
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+rep @ LE. 
Israeli Zionists and economists agree with Rand Paul and Ron Paul that US Foreign Aid is bad for Israel.
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Ron Paul says we should not take sides in Israel's wars and we get blowback for supporting Israel. He goes on to say Palestinians are living in concentration camp like conditions and mostly unarmed facing a strong Israeli military. Ron Paul says American weapons and funds are being used in Israel's killing of Palestinians and US has moral responsibility.
If that is supporting Israel, whole America should be Israel's supporter.
If that is supporting Israel, whole America should be Israel's supporter.
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exactly!!!! Nice analogy!
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Its odd to me that most think Israel uses the Us as there attack dog,when i see it as the opposite.To me our foreign aid and military support sets up Israel to become beholden to America's intrests. I would rather Israel be able to govern as they see fit and not have the Us constantly try to dictate how they will run there affairs.
I also see America putting them in a bad spot to where we mess around in the middle east to protect our interests in there oil,which then entices the middle east to retaliate against whatever represents American influence and that would be most easily seen as Israel
I also see America putting them in a bad spot to where we mess around in the middle east to protect our interests in there oil,which then entices the middle east to retaliate against whatever represents American influence and that would be most easily seen as Israel
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Thank you for sharing this.
I regard human relationships as fractals ... common denominators whether differences are on an individual or national scale.
Israel vs Palestine :: two drunk college guys getting heated. The more they drink the more their threats come closer to actual violence.
The United States has a choice :: drink up and pick a side. Close the fist and punch whoever you stand against, irregardless of the brawl that would ensue.
--or-- keep the palms open and stand between them "Guys, c'mon. Go drink some beer, have a good time tonight, we'll work out the differences in the morning. You can go fight on the front lawn if you need to, but if anyone pulls a knife or somethin' I'm kickin' BOTH your asses."
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I regard human relationships as fractals ... common denominators whether differences are on an individual or national scale.
Israel vs Palestine :: two drunk college guys getting heated. The more they drink the more their threats come closer to actual violence.
The United States has a choice :: drink up and pick a side. Close the fist and punch whoever you stand against, irregardless of the brawl that would ensue.
--or-- keep the palms open and stand between them "Guys, c'mon. Go drink some beer, have a good time tonight, we'll work out the differences in the morning. You can go fight on the front lawn if you need to, but if anyone pulls a knife or somethin' I'm kickin' BOTH your asses."
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Your a wonderful Human Being.If you say anything slightly negative about Israel you are a Rabid Anti-Semite according to you.But It's fine for you to spew hatred about people you know nothing about.Less prosperous?maybe because they don't suck on the teet of another country.As far as ignorant,uneducated and backward I find those traits more palatable then belligerent,manipulative and predatory.Yeah,Anti- Semite I know
Ron Paul said it, not I. Just remember that.
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I had people tell me Romney was the only Christian in the race. (when Ron was still in the race)
People can be really stupid.
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I dont understand this ridiculous Israel bashing. We should be neutral and unsolved. Attacking Israel and supporting its enemies isnt better than the current situation. We need to be impartial, Israel is a sovereign state they should do as they please.
Fine, let them do it with their own money and let's drop all the foreign aid.
And whether "Israel" is a state at all is something that we have no business deciding. It's a regional issue that should be resolved by Palestinians and their neighbors. I doubt the vast majority of the world would shed a tear if "Israel" went back to being what it was before 1948.
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Again im not for any aid or support to Israel but simply doing the opposite by attacking it, supporting its enemies, delegitimizing it etc. is not better and is contrary to libertarian foreign policy principles.
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