Ron Paul: Israel is Our Close Friend

[erowe1]

What I said was current law and the obvious.

I take it you think the federal government we have now is a pretty good thing then. Huh?

 

[YumYum]

No, I mean to totally support them. The Palestinians plan to attack their borders from all sides, in the next few days. If the IDF stacks Palestinians up like cords of wood, we support them. We defend them to the world.

Where did you hear this?

 

[erowe1]

Where did you hear this?

Glenn Beck.

 

[erowe1]

The Palestinians plan to attack their borders from all sides, in the next few days.

Notice the way he uses the word "the" here, as if all Palestinians aren't unique individuals, kind of like how some people like to talk about "the Jews."

 

[COpatriot]

Antisemitism (also spelled anti-semitism or anti-Semitism) is "hatred toward Jews—individually and as a group—that can be attributed to the Jewish religion and/or ethnicity." I fully understand what it means. Thankfully, there is an awakening among Christians in this country. Obama has already alienated the Jewish population. We need a President that supports Israel.

No we do not. We need a president who supports the United States of America. What you said there is solely a talking point of the far religious right and it is a cancer upon American politics and foreign policy. It is absolutely absurd to make the affairs of another nation x1,000 miles away in another hemisphere a priority above our own. Turn off Glenn Beck and tune in to reality.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

No we do not. We need a president who supports the United States of America. What you said there is solely a talking point of the far religious right and it is a cancer upon American politics and foreign policy. It is absolutely absurd to make the affairs of another nation x1,000 miles away in another hemisphere a priority above our own. Turn off Glenn Beck and tune in to reality.

+infinity

 

[Dr.3D]

Notice the way he uses the word "the" here, as if all Palestinians aren't unique individuals, kind of like how some people like to talk about "the Jews."

I'm a little confused here.

Would those people just say "Jews are planning to attack?" Seems more proper to say "The Jews are planning to attack."

During WWII, would the people of the United States have said "The Japanese are planning to attack." Or would they have said "Japanese are planning to attack."?

 

[erowe1]

I'm a little confused here.

Would those people just say "Jews are planning to attack?" Seems more proper to say "The Jews are planning to attack."

During WWII, would the people of the United States have said "The Japanese are planning to attack." Or would they have said "Japanese are planning to attack."?

I have trouble seeing how it would be more proper to say "the Jews" in your first example if it were really just some Jews and not all Jews. I can't see any explanation for saying it with "the" that's not anti-semitic.

I also wouldn't take the typical American mindset of the 1940s as an example of how not to be racially prejudiced. The reason they managed to justify in their minds the idea of putting innocent Japanese Americans in internment camps was that they thought they were at war with "the Japanese" instead of just Japan.

 

[eproxy100]

No we do not. We need a president who supports the United States of America. What you said there is solely a talking point of the far religious right and it is a cancer upon American politics and foreign policy. It is absolutely absurd to make the affairs of another nation x1,000 miles away in another hemisphere a priority above our own. Turn off Glenn Beck and tune in to reality.

I think it has more to do with christian zionism than Glenn Beck. It's pretty hard to change people's mind when it's a religious belief.

 

[TheDrakeMan]

I think Israel may be better off under the European sphere of influence than America. Whether we like it or not, America's empire is certainly not going to last forever, due to our poor economic decisions at home. Israel learning not to be reliant on America could be the greatest thing to happen to it.

 

[Chieppa1]

Notice the way he uses the word "the" here, as if all Palestinians aren't unique individuals, kind of like how some people like to talk about "the Jews."

No we do not. We need a president who supports the United States of America. What you said there is solely a talking point of the far religious right and it is a cancer upon American politics and foreign policy. It is absolutely absurd to make the affairs of another nation x1,000 miles away in another hemisphere a priority above our own. Turn off Glenn Beck and tune in to reality.

+rep for logic.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

I think Israel may be better off under the European sphere of influence than America. Whether we like it or not, America's empire is certainly not going to last forever, due to our poor economic decisions at home. Israel learning not to be reliant on America could be the greatest thing to happen to it.

That's not a bad idea. The Europeans are already well accustomed to welfare statism, and the Israeli regime would fit in perfectly.

 

[cindy25]

friend does not mean dependency

 

[ddavis]

Where did you hear this?

It is now a fact and not conjecture. The IDF responded and the Palestinians backed off.

 

[ddavis]

That's not a bad idea. The Europeans are already well accustomed to welfare statism, and the Israeli regime would fit in perfectly.

Israel is the only democracy in the the Middle East. If the Arabs had their way and they could exterminate all of the Jews, the vacuum would be filled with a less prosperous, ignorant, uneducated, backward population characterized by the rest of the Middle East.

 

[erowe1]

Israel is the only democracy in the the Middle East. If the Arabs had their way and they could exterminate all of the Jews, the vacuum would be filled with a less prosperous, ignorant, uneducated, backward population characterized by the rest of the Middle East.

Actually it's not. The regime in DC made Iraq into one too recently, much to the dismay of every Christian living there. Remember?

Is democracy supposed to be a good thing or something?

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Actually it's not. The regime in DC made Iraq into one too recently, much to the dismay of every Christian living there. Remember?

Is democracy supposed to be a good thing or something?

Afghanistan too, IIRC.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Israel is the only democracy in the the Middle East. If the Arabs had their way and they could exterminate all of the Jews, the vacuum would be filled with a less prosperous, ignorant, uneducated, backward population characterized by the rest of the Middle East.

And the Israelis would wipe out the Arabs/Persians if they could. This conflict has been going on for thousands of years. Plenty of ignorance and irrational hatred on both sides. I agree with RP that we in the West should stay out of their silly feud.

 

[ddavis]

And the Israelis would wipe out the Arabs/Persians if they could. This conflict has been going on for thousands of years. Plenty of ignorance and irrational hatred on both sides. I agree with RP that we in the West should stay out of their silly feud.

Absolutely false. The Israelis would not wipe out the Arabs/Persians given the choice. That is what seperates them. As soon as we pull out of Iran and Afghanistan, they will fall. There will be more killing than those countries saw while the US was there.

 

[erowe1]

Afghanistan too, IIRC.

Yeah, I'm not sure if that's still the Middle East. It probably depends who you ask.