Ron Paul is a fine man. But I guess that's all he is.

[glts]

I can only speak for myself here, but I've grown weary of Ron Paul's passive approach to leadership. He warns of dire consequences if our nation doesn't soon change its policies. He speaks about the impending economic nightmare that will bankrupt our monetary system. He speaks of a dark future for us and our children if major changes don't soon occur at the federal level. He can do little or nothing to help this cause as one lone voice in the Congress. In fact, he'll probably be castrated even further once the voting is over. As the GOP positions itself for retribution, he simply responds with sheepish grins and reassures them that he will remain a Republican. Yet, when given a chance to create a new party, or even formally endorse a third party, he turns it down. Ron Paul has the power to at least help us make a powerful statement in this election, but he seems to be content to merely enjoy his moment of fame while his loyal cult gleefully defends his every word and deed.

An awful lot of people sacrificed an awful lot of things because they believed that Ron Paul was committed to the same effort that he was encouraging us to commit to. If he's leading by example, this "revolution" has become a joke. And the joke's on us.

I for one have seen a miracle happen in the last few months. My father worked for years trying to wake people up to what is happening to America. Every now and then a person might listen. But those people were few and far between. Along comes a true giant. He's been there all along but not many knew or recognized it. Then a miracle happened he began to speak the truth and millions of sleeping people began to wakeup. It is as if he was saying "The emperior has no clothes" as in the children's story. We owe a GREAT debt to Ron Paul and it irratates me to no end when a Johnny come lately thinks they could do something better. Then WHY DON'T YOU? Spend years in Congress crossing every T and dotting every i in support of the Constitution. Wake up a nation and the world then maybe you will have the right to come back and lecture someone like Ron Paul that has been there and DONE THAT!

 

[wgadget]

Agreed.

 

[forsmant]

Ron Pauls Ideas have been around for longer than I have. I have believed in many of them since 2000. The idea is the revolution and Ron Paul is just another one of us. The idea of liberty needs no leader. Liberty is action. Liberty is a way of life. You will always have to protect your liberty regardless of the power structure or government in place. Working within the system is a passive attempt to change others and Ron Paul is the greatest example of that passiveness.

 

[Rangeley]

I think this gets it all wrong. It takes a pretty bold guy to do what Ron Paul did - help establish a growing movement, rack up the votes in the primaries, and stick to his guns by not riding the wave out in a futile bid at a third party win. Thats what someone who is out for their own fame and glory would do, but he isn't out for that.

He has tried working outside the two parties, and knows it isn't the way to do it. He isn't passive - just because he isn't doing what you want him to do doesn't make him passive. He joined the Republican party again and is actively working to change it. It will have less immediate gratification, it will take longer then a third party bid. But it will have infinitely more results, as it will actually work.

 

[Paul.Bearer.of.Injustice]

You all sound like you just figured out the girlfriend you've been dating for a year isn't what you idealized her to be.
Do you love her or not?

Sickening.

 

[JohnMeridith]

Ron Paul should have given up 18months in when he started in the 70s(right time?)so all of these good people wouldn't have wasted their time this year.

 

[SnappleLlama]

Ron Paul is a gentleman. He has been actively fighting for liberty for 20 years as a Congressman, even when nobody knew who he was. For this, we owe him a huge debt of gratitude.

 

[moostraks]

I can only speak for myself here, but I've grown weary of Ron Paul's passive approach to leadership. He warns of dire consequences if our nation doesn't soon change its policies. He speaks about the impending economic nightmare that will bankrupt our monetary system. He speaks of a dark future for us and our children if major changes don't soon occur at the federal level. He can do little or nothing to help this cause as one lone voice in the Congress. In fact, he'll probably be castrated even further once the voting is over. As the GOP positions itself for retribution, he simply responds with sheepish grins and reassures them that he will remain a Republican. Yet, when given a chance to create a new party, or even formally endorse a third party, he turns it down. Ron Paul has the power to at least help us make a powerful statement in this election, but he seems to be content to merely enjoy his moment of fame while his loyal cult gleefully defends his every word and deed.

An awful lot of people sacrificed an awful lot of things because they believed that Ron Paul was committed to the same effort that he was encouraging us to commit to. If he's leading by example, this "revolution" has become a joke. And the joke's on us.

He has put years of time in fighting the establishment, alone.This is not about one person nor is this an easy battle which was going to be won over night. If you thought this was going to be easy and things were going to change overnight welcome to reality. He has an obligation to his constituency. He woke us up to realize there are plenty of folks out there tired of the status quo. The same status quo that controls the media and screwed us out of a fair vote at the rnc. The stakes are high and people in power don't go easily. So, roll up your sleeves and cut the dramatics. Paul is poised if we choose carefully to no longer be the voice of a silent group of voters who allowed apathy to give the reigns to tptb.

 

[forsmant]

you will be villified for it, but this post is spot on.

Very keen post.

 

[anaconda]

I can only speak for myself here, but I've grown weary of Ron Paul's passive approach to leadership. He warns of dire consequences if our nation doesn't soon change its policies. He speaks about the impending economic nightmare that will bankrupt our monetary system. He speaks of a dark future for us and our children if major changes don't soon occur at the federal level. He can do little or nothing to help this cause as one lone voice in the Congress. In fact, he'll probably be castrated even further once the voting is over. As the GOP positions itself for retribution, he simply responds with sheepish grins and reassures them that he will remain a Republican. Yet, when given a chance to create a new party, or even formally endorse a third party, he turns it down. Ron Paul has the power to at least help us make a powerful statement in this election, but he seems to be content to merely enjoy his moment of fame while his loyal cult gleefully defends his every word and deed.

An awful lot of people sacrificed an awful lot of things because they believed that Ron Paul was committed to the same effort that he was encouraging us to commit to. If he's leading by example, this "revolution" has become a joke. And the joke's on us.

I couldn't disagree more.

He attacked the 2 party sham and received brilliant national coverage of it. Getting the People to "wake up" is essential. Ron Paul is a huge inspiration to me.

Teaming up with Nader on the Situation Room was a brilliant move. My head is still spinning from the brilliance of it.

The blind con job supplied by the industrial/media complex is just as big of a problem as anything that RP takes on with his own platform. This just happens to be an essential issue that is non-partisan. That is today's message. It will pave the way for real issues to be front and center and will help us break down the barriers to getting our Freedom message out.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Ron Paul told y'all he never wanted to run our lives.

Maybe he meant it.

In the mean time, perhaps, he has an underlying point to be made:

We don't need any more leaders. We need to lead.

 

[Rhys]

I think this gets it all wrong. It takes a pretty bold guy to do what Ron Paul did - help establish a growing movement, rack up the votes in the primaries, and stick to his guns by not riding the wave out in a futile bid at a third party win. Thats what someone who is out for their own fame and glory would do, but he isn't out for that.

He has tried working outside the two parties, and knows it isn't the way to do it. He isn't passive - just because he isn't doing what you want him to do doesn't make him passive. He joined the Republican party again and is actively working to change it. It will have less immediate gratification, it will take longer then a third party bid. But it will have infinitely more results, as it will actually work.

You remind me of Alexander the Great and I forget the name of the battle. At any rate, Alexander was chasing King Darius III after a brilliant move to iscolate him from his army and try and end the Persian war right then and there, early. He was close to catching Darius when a messenger came to Alexander.

The battle plan was to keep the front lines occupied just long enough for Darius to be killed, then the Persian army would route. It took too long and the flank was collapsing for Alexander.

The messenger told him of the danger of the collapse, and only Alexander could save them. His pressance was two fold... near God like status as a warrior and second... he earned it. His companion calvary saved the say but Darius escaped.

The lesson is this,
He knew when to stop chasing Darius so his army could go on to conquer the world. Had he caught Darius and not returned to the battle in time, his army would have been defeated and killing Darius would have been in vein.

So much like him not running third party.

 

[Carole]

I don't think we are putting it into perspective... if Ron Paul never ran as a Republican in the first place years and years ago. If Ron Paul didn't run as a republican for President this year to get on the debates.

I think he has accomplished a lot by doing what he has done and none of the respect is given to him for it.

Thank you for saying that.

Dr. Paul would have no voice had he not remained Republican, especially this year.

 

[LibertyEagle]

And I envision thousands of people questioning Ron Paul's integrity for pushing third party candidates without becoming one himself, and rather sticking with those that screwed him.

Then thousands of people will be stupid.

Ron has been very clear. Third parties don't stand a chance currently in our country. They don't get in debates. They don't get media attention. They spend most of their time and money getting on the ballot.

Ron actually wants to have a chance to be successful at reclaiming our country. If we don't do it through one of the major parties, we are sunk before we ever got started.

Note: As far as who "screwed him", I'm seeing plenty of such threads/posts by supposed supporters who I'm sure would hurt him much more than any neocon pigs at the top of the GOP that we allowed by OUR inaction to steal the Republican party.

So, the choice is ours. Are we serious about this deal, or have we just been blowing smoke? I can't stand the people who have gotten control of the Republican party, and I plan to do my damnedest to throw them out on their heads, of what once was the party of small government. What's your choice?

 

[ArrestPoliticians]

I can only speak for myself here, but I've grown weary of Ron Paul's passive approach to leadership.

I guess saying "new world order" in public places with no security is passive, as well as running a convention AT THE SAME TIME IN THE SAME CITY as the Republicans is passive. You Fail. 72 year old Ron Paul wins.

Yet, when given a chance to create a new party, or even formally endorse a third party, he turns it down. Ron Paul has the power to at least help us make a powerful statement in this election, but he seems to be content to merely enjoy his moment of fame while his loyal cult gleefully defends his every word and deed.

Creating a third party would be nice. Ron Paul endorsed 4 third party candidates because he is trying to lay the ideological base for a future CENTRIST third party. There aren't enough pure libertarians to win an election, as Ron Paul more or less is. To challenge the fascist parties, a coalition of truth seeking socialists, moderates, and right wingers needs to be established, with enough of an ideological framework and mission to hold things together long enough to throw the bums out of DC. Ron Paul did a great thing today.

An awful lot of people sacrificed an awful lot of things because they believed that Ron Paul was committed to the same effort that he was encouraging us to commit to. If he's leading by example, this "revolution" has become a joke. And the joke's on us.

If you had even the remotest clue as to what it is like to campaign nationally for a year in a primary of a party that hates you, particularly at 72 years of age, you probably wouldn't say this. I know that after 2 weeks in the frozen tundra of Iowa I came to the conclusion that most politicians who go to that wasteland to beg on hands and knees for votes is psychotic.

 

[forsmant]

Ron Paul told y'all he never wanted to run our lives.

Maybe he meant it.

In the mean time, perhaps, he has an underlying point to be made:

We don't need any more leaders. We need to lead.

Brilliant!

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

I think Dr. Paul has made some missteps over the past year and this was a major one

 

[LibertyEagle]

Ron Paul told y'all he never wanted to run our lives.

Maybe he meant it.

In the mean time, perhaps, he has an underlying point to be made:

We don't need any more leaders. We need to lead.

QFT.

Ron has pointed us in the right direction. Our marching orders as I understand them, are to take back our government, starting at the precinct level. His C4L will be there to help us. But, they can't do it FOR us. We have to get up off our asses and do it ourselves. In the process, it would be great for various leaders to spring up at the local grassroots level.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I think Dr. Paul has made some missteps over the past year and this was a major one

Then why don't you get in the position and run yourself, if you think you can do it so much better?

 

[ProBlue33]

Ron Paul has been at this way longer than anybody posting to this forum, he is old and wise, and I trust him that he is doing what he thinks is best for the movement and country, NOT HIMSELF. He is selfless and brave for taking it this far.

I can't imagine the disappointment with everybody who gave money to have it end this way.

Just remember that one of the reasons it is ending this way is because the GOP screwed Ron Paul and his supporters every step of the way, locally, state, nationally and especially at the RNC. You would be crazy to reward them with your vote on election day.