Ron Paul & B. Frank will Introduce Bill Thurs. 2 Decriminalize Marijuana at Fed level

[musicmax]

Why does Ron Paul manage to shoot himself in the foot at least once every week? The mainstream that is moving towards our side may be turned off by a bill such as this.

Exactly. The country and the party both come towards RP on the two biggest issues (war and budget) and he starts holding hands with Bawney Fwank on a fringe (yes, that is the correct word) issue.

 

[AGRP]

People need to stop kowtowing to the GOP establishment. Ron Paul is the leader.

Ron Paul = Liberty

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Exactly. The country and the party both come towards RP on the two biggest issues (war and budget) and he starts holding hands with Bawney Fwank on a fringe (yes, that is the correct word) issue.

So fringe, that a majority of the American people favor marijuana legalization! You are out in kookoo land with that analysis. Ron has worked with Barney Frank many times before *gasp* on the military/war spending issue. Guess he should abandon working with every non-libertarian so we are then assured no progress on any issue will be made...That's the spirit!

 

[parocks]

The better way to explain it to Tea Party Conservatives is as a states rights issue.

This bill does not legalize anything.

This bill simply lets the states decide.

Great way to motivate the young folks for Ron. I always find this topic is a great way of explaining the ideas of the liberty movement: freedom to do as you want, as long as you dont harm others. Great idea!

 

[cindy25]

Are you kidding? Give a monkey index cards with "Ron Paul" "Barney Frank" and "Dope" on them and it could write an attack ad in under a minute.

and all that attack ad would do is re-enforce the typical Bachmann voter; the only way to beat Bachmann is to expand the number of voters, and this is one way; taking on the wars is another. this also neutralizes Gary Johnson, and solidifies the libertarian vote. I don't think the war on drugs is as popular as the drug warriors think; it does not have the one issue support that abortion would have.

this bill was aimed right at Bachmann, and watch Palin . I think Palin will support it.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

and all that attack ad would do is re-enforce the typical Bachmann voter; the only way to beat Bachmann is to expand the number of voters, and this is one way; taking on the wars is another. this also neutralizes Gary Johnson, and solidifies the libertarian vote. I don't think the war on drugs is as popular as the drug warriors think; it does not have the one issue support that abortion would have.

this bill was aimed right at Bachmann, and watch Palin . I think Palin will support it.

I'm inclined to agree, but I don't have any proof. Do you? /curious

 

[musicmax]

So fringe, that a majority of the American people favor marijuana legalization!

Rasmussen: Economy, Health Care, Taxes Continue to Be Top Issues for Voters

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/importance_of_issues

Issue Very Important

Economy 74%

Health Care 69%

Taxes 63%

Gov't Ethics and Corruption 61%

Social Security 61%

Education 58%

Immigration 53%

National Security/War on Terror 47%

Afghanistan 24%

War in Iraq 21%

I guess that "majority" of yours was too stoned to answer the phone when Rasmussen called.

 

[Austrian Econ Disciple]

Rasmussen: Economy, Health Care, Taxes Continue to Be Top Issues for Voters

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/importance_of_issues

Issue Very Important

Economy 74%

Health Care 69%

Taxes 63%

Gov't Ethics and Corruption 61%

Social Security 61%

Education 58%

Immigration 53%

National Security/War on Terror 47%

Afghanistan 24%

War in Iraq 21%

I guess that "majority" of yours was too stoned to answer the phone when Rasmussen called.

Folks, what we have here is the definition of non-sequitur.

 

[CaliforniaMom]

Although I'd never touch pot, I think people should be free to smoke it if they want to

 

[nbhadja]

Rasmussen: Economy, Health Care, Taxes Continue to Be Top Issues for Voters

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/mood_of_america/importance_of_issues

Issue Very Important

Economy 74%

Health Care 69%

Taxes 63%

Gov't Ethics and Corruption 61%

Social Security 61%

Education 58%

Immigration 53%

National Security/War on Terror 47%

Afghanistan 24%

War in Iraq 21%

I guess that "majority" of yours was too stoned to answer the phone when Rasmussen called.

The war on drugs cost 50 BILLION dollars a year. We can use this to blast neocons for being big government supporters because they support the 50 billion dollar war on drugs.

Also the war on drugs has killed 40000 people in Mexico alone in just the last 4.5 years.

 

[musicmax]

Folks, what we have here is the definition of non-sequitur.

I figured once the facts were presented you'd devolve to ad hominem.

Here's the deal. If you walk into McDonald's and ask for a Big Mac, should the cashier refuse to serve you a Big Mac and instead insist that you eat Chicken McNuggets instead? No. YOU are the customer and the BUSINESS must CATER to YOU. It is the same in politics - the VOTERS are the CUSTOMER and the CANDIDATE is the BUSINESS. Especially considering the limited amount of time each of the 10-12 candidates has to make an impression, you must identify the top two or three issues where YOUR views and the VOTERS' views are in sync. Take a look at that poll again: it's not which issues voters think are MOST important, it's which issues voters think are IMPORTANT AT ALL (which is why the numbers add up to far more than 100%). The war on (some) drugs doesn't even crack the top ten.

It's called "priorities". And as the Rasmussen data PROVES WITHOUT ANY ROOM AT ALL FOR ARGUMENT, the drug war is NOT on voters' radar.

 

[musicmax]

The war on drugs cost 50 BILLION dollars a year. We can use this to blast neocons for being big government supporters because they support the 50 billion dollar war on drugs.

Unbelievable. We have finally led the horse (the electorate) to water (Ron Paul), the horse is ready to drink, and you want to yank the horse away to take it to another stream.

Also the war on drugs has killed 40000 people in Mexico alone in just the last 4.5 years.

As a Ron Paul non-interventionist, I am sure you agree with me that that is Mexico's problem.

 

[nbhadja]

Unbelievable. We have finally led the horse (the electorate) to water (Ron Paul), the horse is ready to drink, and you want to yank the horse away to take it to another stream.



As a Ron Paul non-interventionist, I am sure you agree with me that that is Mexico's problem.

No it is our problem. The war on drug is causing drug lords to murder thousands of innocent people each year in Mexico, US, and South America.

Also it is all about the early primary states. While this might hurt in Iowa, it will help in NH. Ron is a unique candidate. He has the power and name recognition to bring anti war and pro drug hippies into the republican primaries.

 

[musicmax]

Also it is all about the early primary states. While this might hurt in Iowa, it will help in NH. Ron is a unique candidate. He has the power and name recognition to bring anti war and pro drug hippies into the republican primaries.

Please convince me that I'm not conversing with a brick wall by acknowledging that THE DRUG WAR DOES NOT REGISTER AS ONE OF THE TOP TEN ISSUES AMONG VOTERS.

 

[AGRP]

Contact drudge and tell him his headline is misleading.

The bill doesn't legalize marijuana.

 

[nbhadja]

And Mohammar Qaddafi has murdered thousands of innocent people in Libya. And Assad is murdering thousands of innocent people in Syria. Why do you blast the neocons from one side of your mouth while mimicking their justifications from the other?



Please convince me that I'm not conversing with a brick wall by acknowledging that THE DRUG WAR DOES NOT REGISTER AS ONE OF THE TOP TEN ISSUES AMONG VOTERS.

The Drug Lords are also IN AMERICA AND KILLING AMERICANS! You ever been to the border states? Even been to Miami?

The war on drugs kills thousands of innocent AMERICANS each year and costs 50 billion US dollars each year!

This is a DOMESTIC issue!

 

[Brett85]

Unfortunately, this is just another sign that Ron isn't actually trying to win the GOP nomination.

 

[parocks]

Absolutely. Tea Party vs. Social Conservatives. Which one is Michelle Bachmann?

and all that attack ad would do is re-enforce the typical Bachmann voter; the only way to beat Bachmann is to expand the number of voters, and this is one way; taking on the wars is another. this also neutralizes Gary Johnson, and solidifies the libertarian vote. I don't think the war on drugs is as popular as the drug warriors think; it does not have the one issue support that abortion would have.

this bill was aimed right at Bachmann, and watch Palin . I think Palin will support it.

 

[musicmax]

This is a DOMESTIC issue!

For you. Not for at least 79% of voters.

 

[parocks]

In Maine in 2009, there were 2 referendums, no major elections, so these 2 referendums were drawing the voters.

1) Medical Marijuana
2) Gay Marriage

Medical Marijuana passed 60-40
Gay Marriage failed.

based on voting, drug substantially more popular than gay, if that's a clue.

I'm inclined to agree, but I don't have any proof. Do you? /curious