REPORT: Ted Cruz Entered US Illegally in 1974

[notsure]

A US passport can be used in lieu of CRBA before age 18,
but it is still important that either Cruz or his mother did file the CRBA . . .
it shows that Cruz would have known then that he is at best a US dual citizen by statute, not a US citizen by birth,

Could he be considered a dual citizen eventhough Canada didn't recognize dual citizenship at the time?
My opinion is, if Ted is even a US citizen, that he's a citizen by statute, a naturalized citizen.

 

[69360]

His mother was a citizen. He was a citizen at birth. The end.

Birthers are stupid, I am so sick of all of you.

 

[notsure]

His mother was a citizen. He was a citizen at birth. The end.

Birthers are stupid, I am so sick of all of you.

If his mother was a citizen and able to confer citizenship, then lyin' Ted should have a Certificate of Birth Abroad or a Certificate of US Citizenship proving that Ted was able to claim US citizenship and that his citizen parent was able to confer it.
If lyin' Ted is a citizen; then because he was born abroad, he's a citizen at birth by naturalization statute, through Congressional generosity. Ted would never be eligible to be POTUS because even if he is a US citizen, he's a naturalized US citizen.

 

[RonPaulMall]

Could he be considered a dual citizen eventhough Canada didn't recognize dual citizenship at the time?
My opinion is, if Ted is even a US citizen, that he's a citizen by statute, a naturalized citizen.

What Canada considers or doesn't consider is immaterial to his American Citizenship. And your opinion is incorrect. A naturalized citizen is someone who was not a citizen but went through some sort of process to become one. There was never a time when Ted Cruz was not a US Citizen. He was a citizen at birth. Whether he was a "natural born citizen" is another question entirely, but there he was clearly born an American.

 

[ProBlue33]

Are Canadian girls hot?

OH YES, here are just a few

Laura Vandervoort

Evangeline Lilly

Emmanuelle Chriqui

Sunny Leone was born in Canada but she is Punjabi

Oh and Pamela Anderson in her prime here she is at 22 years old

 

[Cleaner44]

Deport him to the land of Beiber!

 

[Scott_in_PA]

His mother was a citizen. He was a citizen at birth. The end.

Birthers are stupid, I am so sick of all of you.

Is Hashim bin Hussein eligible?

Prince Hashim was born on 10 June 1981.[1] He received his elementary education in Amman at the Amman Baccalaureate School and then attended the schools of St. Mark's and Fay School in the United States. He later graduated from Maret School in Washington, D.C in 1999. Prince Hashim went to the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst in 2000. He was awarded the Prince Saud Bin Abdullah Prize, presented to the cadet with the highest aggregate mark. After graduating from the Royal Military Academy Sandhurst, he attended Duke University, later transferring to Georgetown University. In August 2005, the prince obtained an undergraduate degree in Comparative Studies from Georgetown University's Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service. He later graduated in Quran studies at Balqa Applied University in Jordan on 5 September 2006. While serving as a Captain in the Jordanian Armed Forces 3rd Royal Ranger Battalion, the prince attended several military and security courses.

Constitutionalism ≠ Birther

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

What Canada considers or doesn't consider is immaterial to his American Citizenship.

Actual, in disputes between countries, the law of nations takes over, and the law of nations again takes the traditional view and says Ted Cruz is a Canadian. It's only been recently that America has tried it's social experiment with dual citizenship, anchor babies, and with the children's citizenship not following that of the father. Virtually every countries laws at one time were similar to what Canadians laws where in 1970s.

It is anything but clear the mother is an American. In fact, with a law saying she is Canadian already posted, her son being a Canadian, and her being on the rolls of eligible canadian voters and owning a canadian business, in any other country but a two bit banana republic, we wouldn't be asking questions - she would have been asked a long time ago to prove she had remained a citizen, and Cruz would be documenting - not hiding - documentations to prove his eligibility to run before he ran - which he can't.

 

[CaptUSA]

It doesn't matter. Cruz has no viability to be President, so his eligibility is moot.

 

[SpiritOf1776_J4]

And your [said to someone else] opinion is incorrect. A naturalized citizen is someone who was not a citizen but went through some sort of process to become one. There was never a time when Ted Cruz was not a US Citizen.

This is not what naturalization means. To be naturalized means to be a citizen under statue by the constitutional power given to Congress. It has nothing to do with some magic ceremony a person performs, but only what a law congress passes under it's naturalization power does. These laws are usually called naturalization laws, and naturalization is not natural born.

An article with the opinion of a constitutional law professor in the washington post might stear you better on definitions:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opin...84a7d0-b7af-11e5-99f3-184bc379b12d_story.html

If the only reason someone is a citizen is because they are pointing to a law derived from the power of congress in Article 1, Section 8, Clause 4, "Congress being authorized to establish an uniform rule of naturalization", you are not natural born. This is all Ted Cruz could point to.

However, most of these threads have of late been arguing not that Cruz isn't natural born - since that has been obvious for awhile, but that Cruz isn't even a citizen under naturalization acts, he failed to met the criteria to be a citizen under them, and never became one later. In which case, he isn't eligible to be a senator either, and ought to be deported.

 

[Jan2017]

His mother was a citizen. He was a citizen at birth. The end.

Birthers are stupid, I am so sick of all of you.

Not a birther issue . . . all seem to know 'Lucifer in the Flesh' was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada in 1970.

But for Chester Arthur they didn't know what side of the Canada border -
and after legal proceedings there was not enough evidence if the family lived across the Vermont border in Canada when he was born.

Cruz was a Canadian citizen BY birth, until 2014 -
with one US parent he could be a US citizen once naturalized IN the United States but he had to be here at some time early in life.

Everyone born in 1970 in a foreign nation to one US citizen-parent is a statutory derivative citizenship regulated by the 1952 Naturalization Act -
with a residence requirement that if not met by that US law then INS can deport.

"Ramos asserts that one who acquires American citizenship at birth under § 1993 cannot lose that citizenship
due to failure to comply with the residence requirement when noncompliance is the result of ignorance of that requirement."​

Ramos Hernadez v. INS 566 F.2d 638 (Ninth Ct. 1977)​

citing Section 1993 for the 1939 born Ramos . . .
"In cases where one of the parents is an alien, the right of citizenship shall not descend unless the child comes to the United States and resides therein
for at least five years continuously immediately previous to his eighteenth birthday,
and unless, within six months after the child's twenty-first birthday, he or she shall take an oath of allegiance to the United States of America
as prescribed by the Bureau of Naturalization."​

A natural born citizen could only get stripped of their native born US citizenship for much more egregious acts than ignorance of a residence requirement - like the Philadelphia-born "natural born citizen" being a Nazi fighting against the United States.

"Fact that defendant was natural born citizen did not preclude action by government to revoke . . ."
​

U.S. v. Schiffer 836 F.Supp 1164 (ED Pa 1993); U.S v. Schiffer 798 F.Supp. 1128 (ED Pa 1992)​

 

[Jan2017]

What Canada considers or doesn't consider is immaterial to his American Citizenship. And your opinion is incorrect. A naturalized citizen is someone who was not a citizen but went through some sort of process to become one. There was never a time when Ted Cruz was not a US Citizen. He was a citizen at birth. Whether he was a "natural born citizen" is another question entirely, but there he was clearly born an American.

Yes, US law makes Ted a citizen. The residence requirement for Rafael E. Cruz was met IN the United States on what date ?

It also appears Ted Cruz was brought into the US by two Canadian citizen parents with
a Delaware-born mother who had already fabricated a father on a UK birth certificate for her first foreign-born son Michael in 1966 in England.

 

[TrigglyPuff]

Are Canadian girls hot?

Very!

Carole James, former leader of the British Columbia New Democratic Party(NDP), a social democratic political party.

 

[phill4paul]

Very!

Carole James, former leader of the British Columbia New Democratic Party(NDP), a social democratic political party.

She has pretty eyes.

 

[69360]

Not a birther issue . . . all seem to know 'Lucifer in the Flesh' was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada in 1970.

But for Chester Arthur they didn't know what side of the Canada border -
and after legal proceedings there was not enough evidence if the family lived across the Vermont border in Canada when he was born.

Cruz was a Canadian citizen BY birth, until 2014 -
with one US parent he could be a US citizen once naturalized IN the United States but he had to be here at some time early in life.

Everyone born in 1970 in a foreign nation to one US citizen-parent is a statutory derivative citizenship regulated by the 1952 Naturalization Act -
with a residence requirement that if not met by that US law then INS can deport.

"Ramos asserts that one who acquires American citizenship at birth under § 1993 cannot lose that citizenship
due to failure to comply with the residence requirement when noncompliance is the result of ignorance of that requirement."​

Ramos Hernadez v. INS 566 F.2d 638 (Ninth Ct. 1977)​

citing Section 1993 for the 1939 born Ramos . . .
"In cases where one of the parents is an alien, the right of citizenship shall not descend unless the child comes to the United States and resides therein
for at least five years continuously immediately previous to his eighteenth birthday,
and unless, within six months after the child's twenty-first birthday, he or she shall take an oath of allegiance to the United States of America
as prescribed by the Bureau of Naturalization."​

A natural born citizen could only get stripped of their native born US citizenship for much more egregious acts than ignorance of a residence requirement - like the Philadelphia-born "natural born citizen" being a Nazi fighting against the United States.

"Fact that defendant was natural born citizen did not preclude action by government to revoke . . ."
​

U.S. v. Schiffer 836 F.Supp 1164 (ED Pa 1993); U.S v. Schiffer 798 F.Supp. 1128 (ED Pa 1992)​

Um looking at that wall of nonsense, you're a birther...

 

[Jan2017]

Um looking at that wall of nonsense, you're a birther...

We all know Cruz is foreignborn so the issue is of constitutionality, not the place of birth inside or outside the territory of the United States.

That "wall" of US case law is the tip of the iceberg of what piles upon Cruz now - 7 years to go for that Senate eligibility
so he can run (for the Senate) in 2024.