Rand Paul speech at Howard University 4/10/13 (tube added)

[Bastiat's The Law]

It's unfortunate that Rand's speech was more about defending the Republican party than defending philosophy. You can't do that and expect to win over people in an audience that is still very much locked in a R vs. D mindset.

I think Rand could stress the philosophy of liberty more to an audience that is locked into the R vs. D paradigm as you say, but this was only the first speech of many in the future.

 

[supermario21]

The problem is you have to break the ice first before you get into the good stuff. This wasn't a YAL crowd. This was a crowd that probably contained many people that can't stand Rand.

 

[jmdrake]

And of course they brought up Dr. Ron Paul's newsletters....

Sure. But they'll have an impossible time tying Rand to the newsletters despite her stupid "Well he wasn't a little kid and could comment" comment.

She was also quite dishonest at the end when she said "You're either for the government desegregating schools and lunch counters in Little Rock Arkansas or you're against it." Really? So this BSNBC commentator doesn't understand the difference between public and private segregation?

 

[familydog]

I think Rand could stress the philosophy of liberty more to an audience that is locked into the R vs. D paradigm as you say, but this was only the first speech of many in the future.

If this was only the "first speech of many," he needs a better speech adviser. He spoke to a very politically charged audience and the best strategy is to frame your philosophy in a way they don't expect. Making liberty about Republicans vs. Democrats is exactly what was expected.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

It was a good speech and Q&A to give him an idea on what concepts work and those that can be either ditched or rephrased. His universal defense of republicans was something that needs to be said with a caveat. What he could do is say what direction he's trying to move the GOP into and that if the general GOP actually is serious about growing then they'll have to adopt a more libertarian/constitutional streak to have cross-appeal. Cause as it stands, it's pretty much just him and a few of his House and Senate colleagues that actually and seriously operate in this fashion and none of the establishment seems to be leaning into softening the stances on civil liberties, foreign policy nor spending for that matter.

 

[Nirvikalpa]

I thought the majority of the questions where thoughtful and respectful. I applaud both the crowd and Rand for doing a superb job. I think this "us versus them" mentality that you seem to be slipping into is not at all helpful. Ron has been treated much worse by white republicans than Rand was by these (mostly) black democrats.

Edit: Just browsed the transcript of Rand's speech. He clearly said he was for the civil rights act and voting rights protection. So the professor's statement that he (Rand) was against the civil rights act and the voting rights act was clearly out of line. Either that or the professor wasn't listening to the speech. I'll watch the entire thing again once it's put up on YouTube. That said, I still think the entire speech was respectful on both sides. I like how Rand took up for the right of the Nation of Islam leader to be heard when some in the crowd groaned about him asking for the files on the death of Malcolm X to be reopened.

I agree with the bolded part.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

The problem is you have to break the ice first before you get into the good stuff. This wasn't a YAL crowd. This was a crowd that probably contained many people that can't stand Rand.

That crowd was probably 90% democrat and caricatures of Rand run rampant in that segment of society so this was a great ice breaker.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

It was a good speech and Q&A to give him an idea on what concepts work and those that can be either ditched or rephrased. His universal defense of republicans was something that needs to be said with a caveat. What he could do is say what direction he's trying to move the GOP into and that if the general GOP actually is serious about growing then they'll have to adopt a more libertarian/constitutional streak to have cross-appeal. Cause as it stands, it's pretty much just him and a few of his House and Senate colleagues that actually and seriously operate in this fashion and none of the establishment seems to be leaning into softening the stances on civil liberties, foreign policy nor spending for that matter.

Spot in. Rand is one of the liberty reformers. This ain't the GWB republican party anymore. Needs to be stressed over and over again.

 

[eleganz]

I missed it, waiting on the tube now

 

[supermario21]

Seems like the left is pounding Rand. TPM, Mother Jones, and Ari Melber of The Nation are all saying Rand's speech was essentially a giant lie, ignorant, and naive.

 

[itshappening]

Seems like the left is pounding Rand. TPM, Mother Jones, and Ari Melber of The Nation are all saying Rand's speech was essentially a giant lie, ignorant, and naive.

They do not like the spotlight being on the Democrats racist history.

Do they say why it was a lie?

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Seems like the left is pounding Rand. TPM, Mother Jones, and Ari Melber of The Nation are all saying Rand's speech was essentially a giant lie, ignorant, and naive.

How dare this libertarian have the audacity to try and siphon minorities outside off the democratic plantation. Freak out time

 

[MRK]

Holy cow, I had no idea this would happen so early in the day. I was up until 7:30 am last night working and just woke up now. Can't wait to see the tube.

 

[Koz]

The video link does not work for me, anyone else?

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

"Obama is doing a great job" gets more applause than most of Rand's speech.. lol

 

[MRK]

The video link does not work for me, anyone else?

I think the video posted in the OP was a live stream. There's been no recording posted yet on this thread as far as I know.

 

[MRK]

I think the video posted in the OP was a live stream. There's been no recording posted yet on this thread as far as I know.

Actually, I just tried to open the video in Firefox instead of Chrome and now the cspan video is playing a recording. Go figure!

 

[jct74]

I think the video posted in the OP was a live stream. There's been no recording posted yet on this thread as far as I know.

no it was working link for a recording of the entire speech, but it's not working for me now either.

 

[jct74]

Actually, I just tried to open the video in Firefox instead of Chrome and now the cspan video is playing a recording. Go figure!

not working in firefox, chrome, or IE for me.

 

[mello]

Not working on my iPhone. Need the tube.