Rand Paul speech at Howard University 4/10/13 (tube added)

[Keith and stuff]

not working in firefox, chrome, or IE for me.

I just finished watching it.

 

[Cowlesy]

Seems like the left is pounding Rand. TPM, Mother Jones, and Ari Melber of The Nation are all saying Rand's speech was essentially a giant lie, ignorant, and naive.

If they were not saying that, I would be worried. They are simply partisans, and are not paid to be reasonable or thoughtful.

 

[MRK]

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I'm going to download and convert youtube in the meantime

EDIT: its posted now below

 

[jtstellar]

It wasn't a question. It was a statement. A professor said "I know that you were against the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act, so I want to know when do you think the government should be involved in these matters." Rand's immediate answer was "That's a micharecterization of my position. I've never been against the Civil Rights Act." There was a pause and some laughter. Then he clarified and said "There was an extended interview where I expressed some concern about parts of the Civil Rights Act, but it's not with regards to race, but how it's been applied in other areas." (smoking, calorie counts on menus ect.) Basically he flubbed the question and missed an opportunity to make a great point. He can't retreat to "I would have only repealed the Jim Crowe laws" territory, because he went against that position on Wolf Blitzer back in 2010. But he could explain better precisely what his concerns are regarding the commerce clause and how that is connected to the Civil Rights Act.

slavery isn't the issue of 2013 and certainly won't be in 2016, when country at worst would have moved on to "women's issues" or feminism. don't bring attention to what you don't intent to address or have others focus on to become a distraction. not every moment has to be a 'wow' factor just to constantly 'woo' the libertarian audience because they're like 3 year old kids with attention deficit, STILL trying to make up their mind whether rand is past that 90% to 91% threshold

if he wanted to "address" his "concerns" there are astronomical amount of other more commonsensical, no-brainer issues he could use to channel his concerns. drones, ring any bell? that is the rand way. that's how he operates, he picks his battles, makes sense in a stable footing then push forward from that issue. if he simply wanted to address fed's limit on what they can do to tell restaurant owners what to do or what not to do, there are countless ways without mentioning sensitive subjects that remind some of race. ron always spoke as if he was reciting from a book he recently read--great for educational purposes, but he often speaks as if there's no one in front of him, that there isn't a real person he is communicating with.

rand is much smarter than many in the movement and that shouldn't be news at this juncture

 

[jct74]

Rush Limbaugh just got done talking about this for a few minutes, he praised Rand's efforts but took exception to one thing that was said during the speech.

 

[tsai3904]

Tube:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzwwZFU6_yk

 

[Brett85]

Rush Limbaugh just got done talking about this for a few minutes, he praised Rand's efforts but took exception to one thing that was said during the speech.

The part about reducing drug sentences?

 

[jct74]

The part about reducing drug sentences?

no, something Rand said about how the Republican Party has a long ways to go in reaching out to black people. Rush said it is up to black people to see the light.

 

[Brett85]

I just listened to Rand's answer to the Civil Rights Act question, and I thought it was a pretty good answer. He basically just said that he's always supported the Civil Rights Act but just has reservations about the ramifications of one provision. That's the best way for him to answer the question, and he really couldn't have answered the question any better, in my opinion.

 

[TheTyke]

Seemed great to me! Rand answered in his usual calm and even way, and none of it came across as pandering or unusual to me. His articulation and poise is a great asset to the liberty movement.

 

[itshappening]

Those student questions were a joke and they were regurgitating Democrat talking points and reading from their phones. Fakers.

That crowd was a rabidly partisan crowd.

You can tell the Democrats are well organized on that campus.

Breaking that matrix is impossible. I doubt he convinced any of them.

 

[Zarn Solen]

He did well overall. He did have respect from many there. Only a few for looking for a fight. Some had concerns, and you could tell these concerns were their own feelings. The phone guy at the end was not legit. He was trying to provoke Paul, but he didn't get his way.

 

[jtstellar]

Those student questions were a joke and they were regurgitating Democrat talking points and reading from their phones. Fakers.

That crowd was a rabidly partisan crowd.

You can tell the Democrats are well organized on that campus.

Breaking that matrix is impossible. I doubt he convinced any of them.

huh? was i watching a different cspan video or did the fact that student body/audience totally eased up near the latter half and the way the tension inside the room completely died toward the end all somehow escaped you? people were laughing and joking and many even sided with rand when the howard alumuni stood up and asked a silly malcom X question, when people made fun of its silliness. not sure how anyone can interpret this as a failure. even if it didn't convert everyone of them in one fell swoop, it certainly did it in terms of breaking ice

people also clapped loudly when he mentioned his opposition to undeclared war, when questioner that brought up this issue specifically mentioned obama being as guilty as bush in that department. person who asked this question made sure the entire audience heard and understood his intent to imply obama-- 'war criminal' i believe was the word he used for bush, and he swiftly named obama, clearly implying him in the same category, if bush were to be indicted. rand said he was against the entire notion of undeclared war, and audience fully aware of obama being implied under this charge, still applauded rand loudly. useless waste of breath because it wouldn't 'break the matrix' you say?

 

[twomp]

Those student questions were a joke and they were regurgitating Democrat talking points and reading from their phones. Fakers.

That crowd was a rabidly partisan crowd.

You can tell the Democrats are well organized on that campus.

Breaking that matrix is impossible. I doubt he convinced any of them.

I hope Rand Paul didn't just come there with the intention of "Breaking that Matrix", Rand Paul has a different message and he is trying to get that message out there. He succeeded in that today. A few days, months, and years from now there will be students who were there in attendance who will at least say that, he's a different kind of Republican and there are some parts of what he said that makes sense.

Lighting those brush fires. Great job by Rand Paul today.

 

[itshappening]

Please... they were pretty radically leftist and organized Democrats..

One guy who asked a question was the head of an Obama PAC! Haha! You think you'll convince him?

 

[georgiaboy]

BTW, I thought the greatest moment was the whole setup about the two kids of privilege - one black, one white - who smoke a little dope, get their wrists slapped instead of jailtime, because they can beat the system. Laws regarding mandatory sentencing need to change.

Punchline -- the two kids were one Barack Obama and one George W. Bush


Audience loved it.

 

[jtstellar]

Please... they were pretty radically leftist and organized Democrats..

One guy who asked a question was the head of an Obama PAC! Haha! You think you'll convince him?

you have zero people read ability.. there were a number of audience as well as some who remained later for Q&A, who later asked him some questions who were clearly closet libertarian leaning voters. there will always be monetarily incentivized voters who work for the DNC but that's not the issue, because it's not the majority, and the majority of this conference's audience will be internet audience, not howard U audience either.

the haha also makes you sound like some stupid college freshman

 

[twomp]

you have zero people read ability.. there were a number of audience as well as some who remained later for Q&A, who later asked him some questions who were clearly closet libertarian leaning voters. there will always be monetarily incentivized voters who work for the DNC but that's not the issue, because it's not the majority, and the majority of this conference's audience will be internet audience, not howard U audience either.

the haha also makes you sound like some stupid college freshman

I think he just wants Rand Paul to spend all his free time begging Mark Levin to be on his show.

 

[CMoore]

Kudos to Rand for going there and speaking to them. Sounds like he may have made some inroads. But if not, then how can you blame them? Who can resist Obama's Hope and Change thing? It is working so well.

 

[NoOneButPaul]

Please... they were pretty radically leftist and organized Democrats..

One guy who asked a question was the head of an Obama PAC! Haha! You think you'll convince him?

It's not about convincing the person you're arguing with it's about convincing the people who are listening.