Rand Paul debate preview: Hit Donald Trump harder

[Okaloosa]

And another thing. The debate "moderators" never ask Rand about policy positions that he is relavent on. So take the debate to them.

Simply state, after the chosen one get's to speak, quickly... "I have an answer and an actual legislative proposal for that question if the moderator would choose to let me speak."

This happens enough times people are gonna say.."Let him speak."

This he needs to get himself some airtime to answer a question with a solid answer. He will get questions that either are designed to make him look bad or they are irrelevant while someone else gets softball questions.

Attacking Trump could work if Rand was better at it but he isn't. He also needs to have a comeback for Trump insulting the field. Trump says I give everyone money he can say you never gave me a political donation.

 

[jllundqu]

I would rock the boat COMPLETELY. Fuck the debate rules and the mods. Rand should speak truth and not apologize for it.

 

[MarcusI]

what are his most current polling numbers?

Intrestingly he is back to 7th in the RCP average, best position since August 26th.

(with a lower percentage than back then though)

 

[BenMuldowney]

You can poopoo Fiorina because you disagree with her, which I did also, but she hit it with the party base, hence the rise in the polls. Maybe it was all fluff from the MSM, maybe not, but you have to look at what garnered the attention she didn't have before.

i saw the whole thing materialize... she was awful in the debate because all she did was parrot the neocon talking points. granted she parroted well... and so the msm turns that into some type of gop revolution and the gullible neocon/rinos gobble it up. they all want so badly to show they are progressives too when it comes to women.

yawn!!!

 

[DisneyFan]

This is embarrassing.

Give it up, Rand. Your Trump strategy is a loser.

Many of us knew this approach wouldn't work when he first started it and we were right.

Time for him to try something else instead of doubling down.

 

[BenMuldowney]

Intrestingly he is back to 7th in the RCP average, best position since August 26th.

(with a lower percentage than back then though)

3.3% tied with carly.... ummmm if people think this is a positive then i am just at a loss for words.

 

[RonPaulMall]

Can't imagine this is a good idea, go after somebody else like Jeb or something.

Jeb, Boehner, Wall Street Fat Cats, Open Borders/Managed Trade supporting CEOs, the Bailed out Bankers, and the entire corrupt, treasonous Republican Establishment. That is who Rand should be going after and who he should have been doing from the very start. This is the angriest, most anti-establishment electorate in modern history and Rand's campaign has been totally oblivious to that reality. They are running like it is 1984 and the voters are all fat and happy.

 

[maxoutco]

i saw the whole thing materialize... she was awful in the debate because all she did was parrot the neocon talking points. granted she parroted well... and so the msm turns that into some type of gop revolution and the gullible neocon/rinos gobble it up. they all want so badly to show they are progressives too when it comes to women.

yawn!!!

Even if she was horrible in the debate, she did one thing right. She garnered the attention of the media whores to talk about her. The media whores talking about her is what got the sheeple's attention. This is what Rand needs to do, he needs spotlight. He needs reactional applause from the crowd. If this was battle rap, he needs bar points.

 

[BenMuldowney]

The republican electorate went from being sick of the ME wars back to kicking muslim ass. Even story of American aid workers being raped and murdered, women sold as sex slaves to ISUS fighters and Christian heads being cut off, pounded another nail into noninterventism. It was very well known that rand was moving toward interventism only to get elected and would govern far more noninterventist and the republican electorate wanted nothing of that.

ok... ive heard of isis and isil... now they have changed it to isus? what's next isul? before the is** names it was al qaeda and before that is was taliban. we need just one boogey man name and keep it that way. and sorry but the avg goper being polled doesnt have a clue what's going on over there... the ones backing trump are loving his anti-establishment rhetoric and his stand against political correctness run amok.

when rand attacks him... he is alienating people fed up with the current status quo. if people actually knew who/what started ISIS they would shit their pants.

 

[BenMuldowney]

Even if she was horrible in the debate, she did one thing right. She garnered the attention of the media whores to talk about her. The media whores talking about her is what got the sheeple's attention. This is what Rand needs to do, he needs spotlight. He needs reactional applause from the crowd. If this was battle rap, he needs bar points.

you dont get it..she didnt garner attention. she executed their strategy and they approved and decided to continue their script. you act like this is all legit, anyone thats worked for ron paul in the past knows how they work.

 

[CPUd]

what are his most current polling numbers?

Same as everyone else not named Trump or Carson.

 

[klamath]

ok... ive heard of isis and isil... now they have changed it to isus? what's next isul? before the is** names it was al qaeda and before that is was taliban. we need just one boogey man name and keep it that way. and sorry but the avg goper being polled doesnt have a clue what's going on over there... the ones backing trump are loving his anti-establishment rhetoric and his stand against political correctness run amok.

when rand attacks him... he is alienating people fed up with the current status quo. if people actually knew who/what started ISIS they would shit their pants.

No Trump is the big talking SOB that they believe will nuke ISIS, (ISUS my misspelling). My point still stands. ISIS was a more brutal and visible by their own choice and GOP Voters want to kick ass. Rand is the least likely in their opinion to do it. Yes they want someone that acts like they will do what the say they will and they believe Trump will nuke the ME, too HELL with the consequence!

 

[klamath]

you dont get it..she didnt garner attention. she executed their strategy and they approved and decided to continue their script. you act like this is all legit, anyone thats worked for ron paul in the past knows how they work.

Don't matter, she sounded tough on Muslims.

 

[BenMuldowney]

No Trump is the big talking SOB that they believe will nuke ISIS, (ISUS my misspelling). My point still stands. ISIS was a more brutal and visible by their own choice and GOP Voters want to kick ass. Rand is the least likely in their opinion to do it. Yes they want someone that acts like they will do what the say they will and they believe Trump will nuke the ME, too HELL with the consequence!

that's not what is driving trump's numbers.. it is anti-establishment.. i.e. tough on immigration (non PC). if spewing neocon chickenhawk rhetoric was the reason.. then the others would be right up there with him. i think rand is the only non chickenhawk? and even he has skated on this issue.

 

[BenMuldowney]

Don't matter, she sounded tough on Muslims.

all of the other neocon chicken hawk rinos are saying the same thing. wtf do i even bother? smh

 

[klamath]

all of the other neocon chicken hawk rinos are saying the same thing. wtf do i even bother? smh

She said it better and she is anti establishment. Trump is the ultimate chickenhawk and it don't matter.

 

[BenMuldowney]

She said it better and she is anti establishment. Trump is the ultimate chickenhawk and it don't matter.

no.. she is a woman and the media wants to push her as "the gop's hillary alternative" while she is actually just a huge neocon. LOL @ carly being anti-establishment. dear god please tell me which issue that is.

 

[klamath]

no.. she is a woman and the media wants to push her as "the gop's hillary alternative" while she is actually just a huge neocon. LOL @ carly being anti-establishment. dear god please tell me which issue that is.

Anti establishment is the "issue" trump is running on. It is the winning issue you know.....
But back to why Rand is lagging. You keep throwing neocon like it is killer word that should destroy any candidate, Wrong. Between 2006 to 2013 that might have been the case. The GOP has swung back because of ISIS. Case in point. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/poll-george-w-bush-popularity-obama-popularity-118576

 

[BenMuldowney]

Anti establishment is the "issue" trump is running on. It is the winning issue you know.....
But back to why Rand is lagging. You keep throwing neocon like it is killer word that should destroy any candidate, Wrong. Between 2006 to 2013 that might have been the case. The GOP has swung back because of ISIS. Case in point. http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/poll-george-w-bush-popularity-obama-popularity-118576

i use neocon because they are all still neocons (almost). trump is terrible when it comes to foreign policy but he sounds like the others (just as carly does). what separates trump from all the other neocons is his stance on illegal immigration and the economy. he also isnt falling into the PC speak trap. he had the nerve to expose the fake unemployment scam numbers too.

and guess what? IT LANDED!!! the more the msm tried to bash him the more his poll numbers rose. at this same time is when rand decides to attack him in the debate and we all know what a miserable strategy that was.

IT ISNT ABOUT ISIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[klamath]

i use neocon because they are all still neocons (almost). trump is terrible when it comes to foreign policy but he sounds like the others (just as carly does). what separates trump from all the other neocons is his stance on illegal immigration and the economy. he also isnt falling into the PC speak trap. he had the nerve to expose the fake unemployment scam numbers too.

and guess what? IT LANDED!!! the more the msm tried to bash him the more his poll numbers rose. at this same time is when rand decides to attack him in the debate and we all know what a miserable strategy that was.

IT ISNT ABOUT ISIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What s your proof it was a miserable strategy? You guys keep throwing this shit out there and there is nothing to back it up.