Quinnipiac Virginia Primary Poll [Romney v. Paul Head to Head]

[Student Of Paulism]

Lol, this was expected, as Blue said, head to head with just Romney alone is always a disaster. With a whopping lead of 2/3s of the vote, its doubtful he will ever be able to catch him there no matter if he spent every second there from now til voting day. It's obvious all too many people have their hearts set on Mitt. Maybe we should petition to allow them to get Newt and Rick on the ballot there lmao.

Look at the brightside, he will get second place.

 

[undergroundrr]

Anything could happen in a month. But the one thing I'd be willing to guarantee won't happen is Ron Paul's percentage going down.

 

[wgadget]

On the bright side, there are some neocons who hate Romney so much that they're pushing people to vote for Paul as a protest vote. See RedState.

 

[wgadget]

Question: Will Romney attack Paul in VA? Vice versa? Should be interesting.

 

[rp08orbust]

Question: Will Romney attack Paul in VA? Vice versa? Should be interesting.

Romney has no reason to attack Ron Paul in VA (he didn't attack him much when he did have reason to in IA), and Ron Paul probably does not have the money to attack Romney.

 

[sailingaway]

What they don't realize is that the anti-Paul vote is much more significant and much more dead set on not voting for the candidate they oppose.

Yeah, in Virginia which is a subburb of DC and has a different economy than the rest of the nation, accordingly. That wouldn't be the same in the midwest or the South, but those are not the areas where Ron is head to head with Romney.

The question is whether Dems and Indies would come out for Ron, since it is an open primary. Usually Q doesn't poll indies this far out. Did they?

Otherwise, it being so far out, I would expect it to look like the low end of national polling numbers, which it does.

 

[tsetsefly]

I'm surprised people weren't expecting this. Ron's head to head numbers against Romney are always this bad. I can't believe people expect Ron to have a chance in hell of winning Virginia.

This will change, Sucktorum and grinch supporters wont want to give the delegates to Romney, I fully expect RP to have a real shot at winning Virginia...

and paul's numbers are always bad ion the polls weeks before the elections are about to happen...

 

[sailingaway]

Romney has no reason to attack Ron Paul in VA (he didn't attack him much when he did have reason to in IA), and Ron Paul probably does not have the money to attack Romney.

No. In Iowa he was fighting Gingrich. Romney won't have anyone else to fight in VA. But it is not up immediately.

 

[rich34]

Newt n Santorum better be backing Ron here if they want to deny Romney all those delegates. Ignorant on their part if they dont.

 

[Todd]

Ouch.

I think if Newt and Frothy are still in the race at the time they could get their supporters to vote Paul as a means of denying Mitt the delegates

Judging by the trends....that's just not going to happen.

 

[cindy25]

Romney can't spend much time in VA, as he must spend the next 3 weeks in AZ and MI (a loss in MI could end the Romney campaign)

and even Romney money is limited. he can't spend $100 million on super Tuesday. if he puts $20 million in VA, it has to come out of OH or GA or OK

 

[sailingaway]

Lol, this was expected, as Blue said, head to head with just Romney alone is always a disaster. With a whopping lead of 2/3s of the vote, its doubtful he will ever be able to catch him there no matter if he spent every second there from now til voting day. It's obvious all too many people have their hearts set on Mitt. Maybe we should petition to allow them to get Newt and Rick on the ballot there lmao.

Look at the brightside, he will get second place.

I don't think a soul on earth has 'their hearts set on Mitt'. I think there are those who think the others are worse. However, the current frame of the economy of Virginia these days may well depend on crony capitalism. It is something to think about.

 

[cucucachu0000]

Wait till we start campaigning there and have sarah palin telling people to vote for ron paul to keep the primary going. Things like that would boost our numbers.

 

[djfirm]

Geeze, this place is full of dreamers. You cant just start shifting numbers around willy nilly to your favor without any reasoning at all. Like 30% of Romney supporters are just going to change their minds on a dime. Palin will come to our rescue and endorse Paul. The youth will come out in droves. Romey will drop out soon. Where do you people get these wacky ideas from?

The more we focus on the reality of our situation, the better decisions we can make. If we keep fooling ourselves with "youth vote" nonsense, that people will magically wake up, etc.. we will continue to perform poorly. People are putting their hope into Cali? Are you kidding? Cali is a lost cause. They are bleeding money and they continue to want every program under the sun and you think Paul, who is the opposite of everything that keeps California in trouble is going to come sweeping in and win? oh brother.

Mods can remove my post now. Can't have reality pop any bubbles around here.

 

[Constitutional Paulicy]

Wouldn't it be just as likely that pro Gingrich and Santorum voters protest the vote by not turning up at the polls. I'd imagine there would be a low voter turn out. If there was fallout, I'm guessing it would go to Paul in favor of upsetting Romney since some pro Gingrich and Santorum supporters would like to see a Romney upset. I could imagine a closer race than some might think, but in the end, Romney would still likely win.

Are these delegates binding or non-binding?

 

[sailingaway]

Geeze, this place is full of dreamers. You cant just start shifting numbers around willy nilly to your favor without any reasoning at all. Like 30% of Romney supporters are just going to change their minds on a dime. Palin will come to our rescue and endorse Paul. The youth will come out in droves. Romey will drop out soon. Where do you people get these wacky ideas from?

The more we focus on the reality of our situation, the better decisions we can make. If we keep fooling ourselves with "youth vote" nonsense, that people will magically wake up, etc.. we will continue to perform poorly. People are putting their hope into Cali? Are you kidding? Cali is a lost cause. They are bleeding money and they continue to want every program under the sun and you think Paul, who is the opposite of everything that keeps California in trouble is going to come sweeping in and win? oh brother.

Mods can remove my post now. Can't have reality pop any bubbles around here.

I don't expect Palin to do anything concrete to help. I think Romney is a default kind of guy, is all. But I think VA is bound to the status quo and might fire up for him if they see their gravy train threatened. I think that is reality.

And 27% last night was a good number. No one expected Santorum to get as much as he did, going in. We needed the youth vote. We just need to focus more on older voters. But don't cut down the part of the campaign that is working, augment it because it isn't enough.

 

[The Gold Standard]

A quarter of the people don't even know who Ron Paul is (the media is doing their job well). Lets run a few million dollars in ads over there and see what the numbers look like. Now we just need to raise a few million dollars for ads in Virginia.

 

[Cyberbrain]

Virginia will definitely not be the first state Paul wins, he needs momentum before he can win here, but he will do much better than 19%. If we can deny Romney 51% then it goes to proportional delegates and that's whats most important.

 

[Constitutional Paulicy]

Virginia will definitely not be the first state Paul wins, he needs momentum before he can win here, but he will do much better than 19%. If we can deny Romney 51% then it goes to proportional delegates and that's whats most important.

Actually it's 50.1% and that would mean it's inevitable than one or the other will exceed 50% since it's a two man race. That's why it would be in our favor that other candidates were in the race so we could pick up some delegates so long of course that we exceed 15% of the vote in the districts.

I'm still wondering if these delegates are bound or unbound.

 

[Badger Paul]

"What they don't realize is that the anti-Paul vote is much more significant and much more dead set on not voting for the candidate they oppose."

That might be true if it were only Paul and Romney left on the stage. But it's not after last night and if conservatives want to hurt Romney and stop him, holding their nose and voting for Paul is the only way they can to do so.