Proposal for an international liberty caucus

I forget where I saw this (maybe Downsize DC) but I like the simple mission statement:

"Reduce the size and scope of government on all levels."
 
Since there could never be a real consensus on what everyone wants, why not just have a few basic beliefs (i.e. All mankind is by nature free , no oppressive taxation, no limits upon free trade, etc etc etc) and then let each nations leaders decide what they want to focus on individually. For example, the United States leadership page could outline our demands for the abolishment of the federal reserve, department of education, ending the prohibition of drugs, getting rid of the federal income tax, restoration of total state sovereignty, etc. Those in the U.K. can decide what they would add to their own Declaration of Independence and so and so forth. We come together only for the purpose of showing our numbers and showing the world that true liberty is possible for everyone if they truly want it but that is it. This is basically coming together for the overall goal of staying apart!
 
jdmyprez_deo_vindice said:
Since there could never be a real consensus on what everyone wants, why not just have a few basic beliefs (i.e. All mankind is by nature free , no oppressive taxation, no limits upon free trade, etc etc etc) and then let each nations leaders decide what they want to focus on individually. For example, the United States leadership page could outline our demands for the abolishment of the federal reserve, department of education, ending the prohibition of drugs, getting rid of the federal income tax, restoration of total state sovereignty, etc. Those in the U.K. can decide what they would add to their own Declaration of Independence and so and so forth. We come together only for the purpose of showing our numbers and showing the world that true liberty is possible for everyone if they truly want it but that is it. This is basically coming together for the overall goal of staying apart!
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This sounds good to me! I do hope we put emphasis on dismantling the UN. The UN is the NWO and we have common ground with other nations whose people don't want that any more than we do.

Can we get a concensus on this? Because this is really the main issue for me, and while we can set various goals, like the ones you brought up, we have to have a primary focus. I'd also like to see us plan a major event around this issue.

Another primary focus is an alternative currency should our own currencies fail. We should post some kind of a strategy that is sort of a 'one size fits all' back up plan that any town, state, or country could fall back on if necessary.

This would be key since the collapse of the world's currencies would put us squarely in the hands of the UN and the BIS and the IMF.
 
C'mon people.... input,input,input.. even if you think this is a stupid idea than please say so... Nobody is going to do this for us! This is up to "we the people" to take our nations back.
 
The following are the main principles I propose:

1. Dismantaling the United Nations
2. Legalising Competing Currencies => Phasing out fiat central banking
3. Government Confined to purpose of protecting liberty (Courts, Police etc)
4. True Free Trade between free nations with high standards of living (Third World Socialist Countries with fiat currencies should be cut off because a country like China can create a business cycle and depression on its own)

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Curlz31 said:
The following are the main principles I propose:

1. Dismantaling the United Nations
2. Legalising Competing Currencies => Phasing out fiat central banking
3. Government Confined to purpose of protecting liberty (Courts, Police etc)
4. True Free Trade between free nations with high standards of living (Third World Socialist Countries with fiat currencies should be cut off because a country like China can create a business cycle and depression on its own)

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No arguments here. Great list!
 
this concept is so vast that I don't even know where to start with some input.

:X
 
Curlz31 said:
Excellent. So it's just a matter of working out what form it should take.

I think it needs to clearly describe the faction that we represent:

* Centred on the Austrian School (NOT Milton Friedman Chicago-School)
* Commodity Money Standards
* Anti-War
* Anti the Socialist-style nWo Free-Trade agreements (NAFTA etc)
* Pro true Free Trade
* Anti Lisbon Treaty
* Anti North American Union
* Anti Asia-Pacific Union (Thats our proposed one here in Australia)
* Anti United Nations
* Global Warming is a fraud

One of the other non-US figures other than Hannan would be Vaclav Klaus - President of the Czech Republic, Mises Man, Ron Paul's friend, anti-Lisbon Treaty, anti-UN, anti-global warming fraud.



There is a clear worldwide faction coalescing here.
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you are most certainly a terrorist in Missouri
 
zach said:
this concept is so vast that I don't even know where to start with some input.

:X
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I feel the same way :p

I already have a song picked out for a video i want to make. :D Need to hear some more input before the concept becomes clear and defined though :cool:
 
ClayTrainor said:
I feel the same way :p

I already have a song picked out for a video i want to make. :D Need to hear some more input before the concept becomes clear and defined though :cool:
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What song do you have in mind? I was kind of thinking "wind of change" by the Scorpions. At least that is what was in my head when I was typing the OP up.

Even the video kinda fits

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taVW8Kv2HcQ
 
jdmyprez_deo_vindice said:
What song do you have in mind? I was kind of thinking "wind of change" by the Scorpions. At least that is what was in my head when I was typing the OP up.

Even the video kinda fits

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=taVW8Kv2HcQ
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Cool man, I personally don't use lyrics for the videos i make. I use Music as a tool to drive the emotion, while i let our spokesmen for liberty do the lyrical work ;-)

This might sound weird, but the song i'm leaning towards right now is from a videogame "Metal Gear Solid 4". I think it really captures the essence of the "epic" feel that we need to capture. It's also a very peaceful melody, but sends a strong powerful message.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9Pu92St5O0

I always pick my music before i start putting the video together. :cool:
 
I like it.... great choice Clay... this is why I am in favor of you being in charge of video production for this thing if we can really get it off the ground.
 
Curlz31 said:
Me and my people are the focus of this movement in Australia (You might know my mate Conza88 who comes on these forums often). As I said, we are close to launching our very elaborate site.

There are ALOT of folks here in Australia who love Dr Paul but need to learn more about the Austrian-School.
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Go here for starters:

http://mises.org/
 
Isil

You guys might want to get in touch with ISIL. (International Society for Individual Liberty)

They've been around for a *very* long time and could likely be a helpful resource or ally. Also, they produced the Animated introduction to philosophy of liberty and Jonathon Gullible, a great intro-to-economics parable book in the style of Gulliver's Travels. Both are published in many languages. The former is great for posting in blog or website sidebars.

Ken Schoolland, author of both, was my economics professor in university, and has an amazing grasp of economics, national, and world events.
 
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