Proposal for an international liberty caucus

[Deborah K]

I have been thinking along these same lines since last night when I watched the gentleman in parlliament rip the PM a new one.

Names I have been thinking of is "Internaional Liberty Movement" or "International Liberty Front".

Instead of a "Free State Project" we may just end up with a "Free Nation Project"!!!

Anyone know any small countries with a good climate that we could take over??

This MUST take off! Love the ideas so far - "Untied Nations" SWEET!

Well, Curlz already has a good domain name established. I think having the words "liberty" and "international" do the best job of getting the point across about the intentions.

Untied Nations would make a great headline for a press release, or an article about this movement.

 

[ClayTrainor]

I'd say the checklist is:

* Define the movement (explain we are not Friedmanites and we are anti-war and so on).

I'll try to base my video around our mission statements, and will be asking for your advice and input constantly

* Find out the political figures and organisations from each country who already fall into it.

Yup, we're off to a great start already. I gotta find me a Canadian liberty candidate

* Work out some way we can communicate and synchronise and co-ordinate actions to maximise the effect of certain activities in any one country.

A team of web developers would really be crucial. We need to grab some people with specific skills.

Graphic arts, web design, programming, content management systems, databases etc.

 

[ClayTrainor]

I am on board for some graphics design. (Or whatever is needed) Let's make this happen..

Starting next week I am fully available.

Awesome... i may be in touch for my video as well

What graphic design skills do you have? what software?

 

[Deborah K]

Guys, please put up a really awesome picture of the earth on the site? Say, from the moon's vantage point?

Thoughts?

 

[Joe3113]

A mission statement will define the movement.

I'll start researching for like-minded political figures in other countries.

A central meeting place, like a web site could do this, couldn't it? Each participating country could have its own link. And all events that are a work in progress could have their own links.

I've been following the European parliament for a while.

Some people who qualify as Hayekians are:

- Danieal Hannan MEP (British Libertarian-Conservative - Conservative Party)
- Syed Kamall MEP (British Libertarian-Conservative - Conservative Party)
- Nigel Farage MEP (British Libertarian-Conservative - UKIP Party)
- Roger Helmer MEP (British Libertarian-Conservative - Conservative Party)


Prob a few others.

All these guys are against the socialist EU and Britains involvement in it. They were against the Iraq War also.

They give blasting speeches in the parliament and Kamall and Hannan quote Hayek often and talk about "Road to Serfdom".

 

[Conza88]

Consider the universal status of the ethic of liberty, and of the natural right of person and property that obtains under such an ethic.

For every person, at any time or place, can be covered by the basic rules:
• ownership of one's own self,
• ownership of the previously unused resources which one has occupied and transformed; and
• ownership of all titles derived from that basic ownership —either through voluntary exchanges or voluntary gifts.

These rules —which we might call the “rules of natural ownership”— can clearly be applied, and such ownership defended, regardless of the time or place, and regardless of the economic attainments of the society. It is impossible for any other social system to qualify as universal natural law; for if there is any coercive rule by one person or group over another (and all rule partakes of such hegemony), then it is impossible to apply the same rule for all; only a rulerless, purely libertarian world can fulfill the qualifications of natural rights and natural law, or, more important, can fulfill the conditions of a universal ethic for all mankind.

The Ethics of Liberty

 

[Deborah K]

Oh yes. This should definitely be incorporated into the mission statement.

 

[ClayTrainor]

Guys, please put up a really awesome picture of the earth on the site? Say, from the moon's vantage point?

Thoughts?

Could our R3VOLUTION logo fit in as well? Is that too much?

And i agree... the earth could be a good theme for the site.

 

[Joe3113]

Guys, please put up a really awesome picture of the earth on the site? Say, from the moon's vantage point?

Thoughts?

I often buy stock images from http://www.dreamstime.com

They have awesome images that are pretty cheap.

If people want to look there I can buy the images.

 

[Deborah K]

I've been following the European parliament for a while.

Some people who qualify as Hayekians are:

- Danieal Hannan MEP (British Libertarian-Conservative - Conservative Party)
- Syed Kamall MEP (British Libertarian-Conservative - Conservative Party)
- Nigel Farage MEP (British Libertarian-Conservative - UKIP Party)
- Roger Helmer MEP (British Libertarian-Conservative - Conservative Party)


Prob a few others.

All these guys are against the socialist EU and Britains involvement in it. They were against the Iraq War also.

They give blasting speeches in the parliament and Kamall and Hannan quote Hayek often and talk about "Road to Serfdom".

Perfect start. Once we've collected a list, have the site up and running, we ought to invite everyone on the list to visit, join, and possibly be a representative of the ILM (International Liberty Movement).

 

[reduen]

Awesome... i may be in touch for my video as well

What graphic design skills do you have? what software?

I have recently switched to Adobe software and I am still learning it but I have Adobe Master Collection CS3 (Illustrator, Indesign, Aftereffects, Flash, etc...)

I also have another good video maker that I use called PowerDirector.

Shoot me a message PM if you want. I have to go for now though...

 

[ClayTrainor]

I have recently switched to Adobe software and I am still learning it but I have Adobe Master Collection CS3 (Illustrator, Indesign, Aftereffects, Flash, etc...)

I also have another good video maker that I use called PowerDirector.

Shoot me a message PM if you want. I have to go for now though...

Awesome dude... i look forward to workin' with you.

 

[reduen]

Guys, please put up a really awesome picture of the earth on the site? Say, from the moon's vantage point?

Thoughts?

I say we look to the Declaration for guidance. (It was good enough before...)

(Sorry if this is obvious, I didn't get that it was so I thought I would state it....)

Really gotta go for now..

 

[Joe3113]

We will stick to small government and more generic terms.

No Rothbard fundamentalism .... because its divisive and many of us disagree with Rothbard on many issues.

 

[Joe3113]

Perfect start. Once we've collected a list, have the site up and running, we ought to invite everyone on the list to visit, join, and possibly be a representative of the ILM (International Liberty Movement).

It's important they fill the criteria we listed earlier.

Anti-war especially. Because we are demarcating from the neocons (Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh and you know the rest)


and NO Milton Friedman paper money disciples are allowed either.

 

[Deborah K]

We will stick to small government and more generic terms.

No Rothbard fundamentalism .... because its divisive and many of us disagree with Rothbard on many issues.

I think it's going to be nearly impossible that everyone will agree on everything.

 

[Joe3113]

I think it's going to be nearly impossible that everyone will agree on everything.

Everyone can agree on small government and anti-war.

 

[Deborah K]

Curlz I tried to post an earth picture from that site you listed and I can't do it. Any suggestions?

 

[Joe3113]

Curlz I tried to post an earth picture from that site you listed and I can't do it. Any suggestions?

Just link me to it. You dont have to post the actual photo.

 

[Deborah K]

Everyone can agree on small government and anti-war.

True, but let's not get caught in the trap of narrowing our scope too much. Liberty is a very big tent.

I suppose a good, healthy debate over our mission statement will eventually ensue.