Proposal for an international liberty caucus

[ClayTrainor]

I like it.... great choice Clay... this is why I am in favor of you being in charge of video production for this thing if we can really get it off the ground.

Thanks man!

Just thinking about the potential of this project is getting me very excited, haha. :o

You guys might want to get in touch with ISIL. (International Society for Individual Liberty)

They've been around for a *very* long time and could likely be a helpful resource or ally. Also, they produced the Animated introduction to philosophy of liberty and Jonathon Gullible, a great intro-to-economics parable book in the style of Gulliver's Travels.

Ken Schoolland, author of both, was my economics professor in university, and has an amazing grasp of economics, national, and world events.

Thanks for bringing this to our attention!

 

[Carole]

Everybody after listening to Bob Basso's interview on Jerry Doyle, it seems apparent that he makes a very good point about getting the Middle Class of America involved.

This is the largest group being affected by all that is happening in our country and the group that is silent and just pays their taxes tries to stay uninvolved.

Please try to include the principles and ideas of liberty in this effort that can unite them and attract them to the cause. Try not to list agenda items that could alienate and divide them.

Sorry if I am not being coherent. It is late and I am tired. I am just trying to say we must find some of the problems that translate easily to the sleeping middle class, like maybe no more stimulus robbing them of their lives and children's lives.

Hope this helps.

Here again is my other thread on the Basso interview. He says it much better than I do . I paraphrased as quickly as possible the interview.

Jerry Doyle interviewing Bob Basso "Thomas Paine" now
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?p=2044545#post2044545

People like Daniel Hannan and Nigel Farage could be a influence if people know about them here AND across the pond. They are just MEPs in the EU Parliament, but we can make them bigger especially by ramping up their You tube visits and ratings.

I do not know this site yet, but my niece sent this to me suggest ing that we

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http://www.resistnet.com/group/wethepeoplemarchonwashington


Good night all.

 

[ClayTrainor]

bump for greatness

 

[Joe3113]

I did a VERY ROUGH 10-minute-job conceptual diagram just to get something in peoples heads to work with.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg305/Curlz31/Untitled-1copy-5.jpg

 

[FunkBuddha]

sounds good.

so the options so far ...

* oneworldliberty.org/com/net
* libertyuniversal.org/com/net
* libertyUN.org/com/net
* untiednations.org/com/net

libertasuniversalis.com
ama-gi.net

Also, it'd be wicked to incorporate the Ama-Gi script into the logo.

 

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

I did a VERY ROUGH 10-minute-job conceptual diagram just to get something in peoples heads to work with.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg305/Curlz31/Untitled-1copy-5.jpg

I love that outline. I would perhaps leave out the word "neocon" because we want people to come in the door and not think we are bashing conservatives right off the bat. Many of those who are just waking up and who are republican still think that only liberals use the term "neoconservative" and may blow us off before they even get started.

I love the listing of organizations on the side and perhaps we could make them clickable so that someone visiting from a specific country could click on their region for contact information for their groups and to review a list of their own liberty movements demands for their own nations. Man this has potential to be so freakin awesome... all of us together fighting the good fight and organizing for action around the world!!!!

 

[ClayTrainor]

I did a VERY ROUGH 10-minute-job conceptual diagram just to get something in peoples heads to work with.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg305/Curlz31/Untitled-1copy-5.jpg

That's a pretty nice draft.

I was just wondering Will we have some sort of system for people to make accounts, or interact with the site in any way? (comments, forum, a news page, etc)

 

[Conza88]

Conza88 is an Aussie? No way... i never knew that!

:o I hope to come over at some point, travel around the US

 

[ClayTrainor]

:o I hope to come over at some point, travel around the US

Be sure to hit up Canada on your travels

 

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

I am trying to get some contact info for Glenn Jacobs (the wrestler known as Kane). I would like to get him booked as a voice of liberty on the same station I got Ron Paul and Adam Kokesh on and I would also like to ask him about this project. He could serve as a fantastic ambassador for this project. He already travels around the world as a part of his job and could do a lot to help spread the word.

Anybody know where to start outside of sending e-mails to WWE (his employer) directly as I am pretty sure they would not relay the message!

 

[Joe3113]

That's a pretty nice draft.

I was just wondering Will we have some sort of system for people to make accounts, or interact with the site in any way? (comments, forum, a news page, etc)

We don't really want overlapping functionality because it becomes redundant. The point should be to find a way to create a communication network for the purpose of...

-Co-ordinating action globally for maximum effect (e.g. we could have people all over the world helping in certain projects in the USA - even if its just emailing - AND we could have US people helping on liberty related projects elsewhere- especially in Europe where the liberty movement needs to defeat the socialist Lisbon Treaty)

If we act globally then we are effectively using the concept of comparative advantage and having maximal effect. For example, if CFL members did something little to help a project in Australia it would have a HUGE effect because we are a country with a population only the size of Texas.

 

[Joe3113]

I drew up a second draft proposal and put it up at the temporary URL:

http://www.libertyuniversal.org


Please have a look and we can work on refining the principles.

 

[FrankRep]

Isn't this already a "global" liberty movement?

http://www.freedom-force.org/

We should call G. Edward Griffin into this for some help.

 

[dr. hfn]

I think it's really important we don't oversaturate the net with our sites, we don't want too many. It will end up becoming a distraction and diffusing our power. We need a few high quality sites with powerful tools and capabilities. Maybe we should help improve the sites that exist already in preparation for 2010 and 2012.
This forum could aid all the sites in the Liberty Movement...then move on to a bigger project.

 

[ClayTrainor]

We should call G. Edward Griffin into this for some help.

Deborah K knows him i think. Why do you mention Griffin, specifically?

 

[FrankRep]

Deborah K knows him i think. Why do you mention Griffin, specifically?

He has a large influence and Freedom Force wants to focus on International activism.

 

[ClayTrainor]

I drew up a second draft proposal and put it up at the temporary URL:

http://www.libertyuniversal.org


Please have a look and we can work on refining the principles.

I just got back from the bar, and am a bit drunk right now but, I really like where you're going with this man. The principles are very good. I like the emphasis on the Austrian school.

 

[ClayTrainor]

He has a large influence and Freedom Force wants to focus on International activism.

Awesome!

 

[Joe3113]

Deborah K knows him i think. Why do you mention Griffin, specifically?

The problem is you cant get anti-war conservatives on board under Freedom-Force because G-Ed talks about 9/11 being an inside job openly.


Yes there are too many overlapping sites, but there is no international co-operative which allows people to co-operate on specific, important projects for liberty. Many of these important projects are not taking place in the United States. For example the Lisbon Treaty. Many of you dont know what that is and yet you could be an enormous help in opposing it.

 

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

I drew up a second draft proposal and put it up at the temporary URL:

http://www.libertyuniversal.org


Please have a look and we can work on refining the principles.

That looks fantastic and I love the mission statement. I can't believe this is coming together like this... It is awe inspiring to stop and think about the group of people and level of talents who have together on this forum.