PPPPolls...

[Diashi]

Shit. I knew this was gonna happen. Who's she taking support away from though? How do we combat this?

There's a reason she kept referring to Cain and 999. She wants his supporters.

 

[trey4sports]

I don't think Ron has much soft support in Iowa. The soft support clings to the candidates shown on TV all the time, and the ones polling well.

you'd be surprised.

 

[BUSHLIED]

Well Ron has been doing his own thing on the shows and after all, he is growing his support and his polling numbers have only gone up...so maybe he doesn't want to rock the boat by showing himself to be over-confident or arrogant like the others...we still have another debate and I think that debate will be more substantive, where Ron will have to talk more specifically about his plans

 

[Uriah]

Eh...

Ron's campaign needs more money to run ads. How is Bachmann surging? I thought she was pretty short on cash?

The religious right doesn't like Gingrich. They need someone to support.

 

[trey4sports]

The religious right doesn't like Gingrich. They need someone to support.

yeah I can see that. Let's just hope that as the caucus draws near and they are saturated with Paul ads and Michelle is nowhere to be seen on the airwaves they consolidate around us instead of Gingrich.

 

[sailingaway]

Why is everyone so quick to dismiss the possibility that some of Ron's soft support could switch to Bachmann? That Deace guy is probably going to endorse her especially after these rising poll numbers.

Based on what he wrote today, Steve Deace is thinking it is down to Ron and Gingrich. If her polls in OTHER polls are high, that might change, or maybe even with just one, but if I have it right, PPP has only polled one day and will be polling tomorrow as well.

http://stevedeace.com/news/iowa-politics/gop-debate-recap/

However, I agree they had Bachmann unusually high in the last one too, I think they were the only one of the four polls to put her above Perry. So do they call the same people or different people?

 

[sailingaway]

They began their poll today because of the debate.

http://twitter.com/#!/ppppolls/status/144075560052719616

thanks.

 

[sailingaway]

you'd be surprised.

he needs to get some of that soft support. Not everyone will have had a complete conversion, if Ron wins this thing.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Get on the phones and identify more voters. That is a much better way to help the good doctor, than insulting Bachmann.

http://phone.ronpaul2012.com/v/login.php?return_url=/v/

 

[sailingaway]

Get on the phones and identify more voters. That is a much better way to help the good doctor, than insulting Bachmann.

http://phone.ronpaul2012.com/v/login.php?return_url=/v/

yes.

 

[trey4sports]

nvm

 

[MikeM39]

The religious right doesn't like Gingrich. They need someone to support.

That's not entirely true, Gingrich threw a bone to the religious right by denying the historical and national existence of the Palestinians and he implied that the entire West Bank rightfully belongs to Israel. I'm sure he'll gain some radical pro-Israel loon votes with that.

 

[MikeM39]

yeah I can see that. Let's just hope that as the caucus draws near and they are saturated with Paul ads and Michelle is nowhere to be seen on the airwaves they consolidate around us instead of Gingrich.

I don't think the religious right is our target audience, they don't like Paul's stance on Israel. The evangelicals think that instigating wars against Israel's enemies is as American as football and apple pie.

 

[trey4sports]

I don't think the religious right is our target audience, they don't like Paul's stance on Israel. The evangelicals think that America's wars against Israel's enemies is as American as football and apple pie.

i think that is a pretty broad assessment. If it is perceived as Romney vs. Gingrich vs. Paul I think we could get a lot of evangelicals. I mean at the least it will be split because Romney's faith hurts him and Gingrich has personal issues that will prevent many from going his way. Yes, maybe they (in general) favor Israel but in the end I think the other candidates have more than enough flaws to eliminate them from evangelical consideration.

 

[akalucas]

Based on what he wrote today, Steve Deace is thinking it is down to Ron and Gingrich. If her polls in OTHER polls are high, that might change, or maybe even with just one, but if I have it right, PPP has only polled one day and will be polling tomorrow as well.

http://stevedeace.com/news/iowa-politics/gop-debate-recap/

However, I agree they had Bachmann unusually high in the last one too, I think they were the only one of the four polls to put her above Perry. So do they call the same people or different people?

they use different demographic numbers. for instance, one would assume 55% of the voters will be female and 45% male, while another pollster will assumed that there will be 50% male and 50% female. The best ones are the ones that go by precedence. for instance, last caucus 57% were male 43% were female in iowa. same idea goes with age, race..etc
so far the one that does the best with demographics is the pollster that des moines register uses, so I would put much more weight on that one.

 

[sailingaway]

I don't think the religious right is our target audience, they don't like Paul's stance on Israel. The evangelicals think that instigating wars against Israel's enemies is as American as football and apple pie.

That is only one part of the religious right. Let's not insult broad groups because we are frustrated with a few.

 

[sailingaway]

they use different demographic numbers. for instance, one would assume 55% of the voters will be female and 45% male, while another pollster will assumed that there will be 50% male and 50% female. The best ones are the ones that go by precedence. for instance, last caucus 57% were male 43% were female in iowa. same idea goes with age, race..etc
so far the one that does the best with demographics is the pollster that des moines register uses, so I would put much more weight on that one.

Yeah, and PPP has no client for these, they are doing it essentially as advertising, so they did some pretty rough cuts at first (only polling GOP in open primary races, for example). I'd trust the Des Moines Register pollster more, as well.

 

[eduardo89]

That's not entirely true, Gingrich threw a bone to the religious right by denying the historical and national existence of the Palestinians and he implied that the entire West Bank rightfully belongs to Israel. I'm sure he'll gain some radical pro-Israel loon votes with that.

Yeah he's as delusional as huckabee in that sense.

 

[davidhperry]

I wouldn't give this poll too much credence. For one thing, if she was improving that much, then we'd see it reflected on Intrade and the Iowa Electronic Markets, which is not happening.

 

[bluesc]

Great. This is the last thing I wanted.