PPP Washington

[JJ2]

A bunch of us warned everyone not to vote for PPP to poll WA.

This is why.

It may have cost Ron the nomination.

 

[Liberty74]

Ron Paul got 21% in Washington State in 2008, and he has increased his percentage in every single state so far. Therefore, it would be astoundingly disappointing if he got less than that in Washington. It would really mean that the GOP has decided to commit collective by becoming the Santorum party.

Puts hand over face. It doesn't work like that. You cannot compare 4 years ago to anything today and establish some type of on going pattern for today. Different variables are at play. Heck, Mitt has decreased his actual votes in many states but still leads the pack as 1 or 2 while leading the delegates.

 

[da32130]

Puts hand over face. It doesn't work like that. You cannot compare 4 years ago to anything today and establish some type of on going pattern for today. Different variables are at play. Heck, Mitt has decreased his actual votes in many states but still leads the pack as 1 or 2 while leading the delegates.

Liberty74, what is your point? Should we not focus on caucus states? Should we not be calling? Should we not be donating?

Do you think any poll would have shown us with 35% in Maine? Did any poll show us with 27% in Minn?

We do well in caucus states not because people love us more there. We do well because we can increase turnout of Paul people relative to everyone else.

That is what we need to focus on.

 

[maxoutco]

Careful of the Santorum surge. It was unexpected here in Colorado. The Mitt crowd was for certain it would go to Romney. Since Santorum was here, he was successful at GOTV.

We should really be running that new Santorum video in Washington.

 

[deputydon]

Um. Paul was polling like 12-17% in Maine and ended up with 36% of the vote, I say people should stop worrying about caucus poll numbers. Do what you can. Phone from home. Donate all you can.

 

[RonPaulRevolution!]

People... The Ron Paul campaign is doing AWESOME in Washington. DO NOT PANICK! DO NOT FEAR MONGER! Ron Paul is going to do VERY well in Washington if not win it outright. The grassroots here are VERY strong and have been working on this win for months. Haven't you seen the rallies lately? Events were packed with 2k-3k people each.

If you know a Ron Paul supporter in Washington make sure you let them know that Washington is, for the first time, a caucus state and that they need to figure out where their caucus location is and when to be there ON TIME!

 

[Shane Harris]

how is santorum that favorable?

 

[69360]

how is santorum that favorable?

Process of elimination. He was the only one left not Romney or Paul. Socons love them some killin brown people and luvin Jesus. It worked out rather well for him.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

how is santorum that favorable?

 

[bbartlog]

That was taken 4 months before the vote. This is 2 weeks. 4 months is a lifetime in this primary.

2 weeks is also quite a bit of time. Specifically, it's enough time for phone from home to place hundreds of thousands of phone calls to WA. The steady climb in our poll numbers in Iowa in the month preceding that caucus was due to our contacting supporters and increasing the chance they would caucus from baseline (very low) to 60% or so. We can do the same thing in WA. It is however a larger state so I'm hoping that phone from home has some way of winnowing the numbers before they call, since there is no way we can cover the entire voter base.

 

[liveandletlive]

More Americans are akin to Santorum than Ron Paul. Sad but true!

 

[jacmicwag]

Well if you want some really bad news check the latest Arizona polls - Ron at 6%. Barry G. is turning in his grave.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Well if you want some really bad news check the latest Arizona polls - Ron at 6%. Barry G. is turning in his grave.

I remember seeing Ron Paul in New Hampshire last time around. There was a Congressman Goldwater traveling with Ron Paul. Oh AZ I think Ron Paul would do better in AZ if he ran ads against birthright citizenship there but he is doing so poorly, there is no point.

 

[James Madison]

I remember seeing Ron Paul in New Hampshire last time around. There was a Congressman Goldwater traveling with Ron Paul. Oh AZ I think Ron Paul would do better in AZ if he ran ads against birthright citizenship there but he is doing so poorly, there is no point.

Arizona is basically the Florida of the southwest, only worse. This is the state that gave us John McCain and Mr. Janet Napolitano.

 

[PolicyReader]

The polling for caucus states is on average highly inaccurate, as in 30%+ inaccurate.
http://electionate.com/2012/02/02/caucus-poll-bashing/

Now wildly inaccurate doesn't = "yay Paul is in the lead" but even so it does indeed equal wildly inaccurate.
However if the point of this thread is "Paul getting a win in WA is incredibly important" then I'd say ok, so what are we going to do about that?
if the point is something else please detail it because nothing else constructive is coming to mind for me.

 

[Keith and stuff]

However if the point of this thread is "Paul getting a win in WA is incredibly important" then I'd say ok, so what are we going to do about that? if the point is something else please detail it because nothing else constructive is coming to mind for me.

Good point. I did something about it. I donated $50 to help send a Ron Paul Forums poster from New Hampshire to WA to be a Ron Paul volunteer! Hopefully, everyone here helps in WA via phone for home, new donations to the RP campaign, donations to volunteers traveling to WA or all of the above!

 

[Student Of Paulism]

Arizona is basically the Florida of the southwest, only worse. This is the state that gave us John McCain and Mr. Janet Napolitano.

Yea...running ads there is a waste of time, he has zero chance in AZ.

OH, GA, TX, and VA also look equally lousy.

 

[Student Of Paulism]

The polling for caucus states is on average highly inaccurate, as in 30%+ inaccurate.
http://electionate.com/2012/02/02/caucus-poll-bashing/

Now wildly inaccurate doesn't = "yay Paul is in the lead" but even so it does indeed equal wildly inaccurate.

I dont see how IA, NV, and CO were wildly inaccurate, at least going by PPP's polls. Their primary polling was decent enough as well, except for FL, where he finished about 5 points less, but that was to be expected anyway. MN was a open caucus so that was probably why he did much better there than their poll, but they even said he had a great chance of taking 1st there based on some other figures and predictors they used.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Yea...running ads there is a waste of time, he has zero chance in AZ.

OH, GA, TX, and VA also look equally lousy.

Agreed. Although, I understand that some people want it to be within 20 points in VA, as otherwise, it will look bad. Personally, I don't think anyone will care about VA as only 2 people are on the ballot. I think people from other states will ignore it since it happens during Super Tuesday. I think the media will promote the results from the other states.

 

[AngryCanadian]

A bunch of us warned everyone not to vote for PPP to poll WA.

This is why.

It may have cost Ron the nomination.

I thought Washington was a Paul State