POLL: Ron Paul's VP???

[Paul Or Nothing II]

A name I've been reading around the internet lately as a potential VP for Ron Paul is Rudy Giuliani. I know, crazy right? Hear me out... Rudy is very popular with the neo-conservatives as we all know. I know he campaigned hard against Rand Paul, but Rudy is a savvy politician and he knows the way the wind blows. Generally, Rudy was a huge success! He lead the fight that broke the mafia in the 70s, he turned New York from a warzone into a tourist destination. It is the post-9/11 Rudy that we all hate. Politics make for strange bedfellows some times...

What is the reasoning behind this idea? Well, Ron has been open to a candidate running currently, so long as he or she "came around to his way of thinking on some things". He could be talking about Rudy.. We all know about "Rudy's Reading List" from Ron Paul. If Rudy came around on blowback and the war on drugs, perhaps he is a good candidate to run with Ron. He will definitely appease anyone who thinks Ron will be 'soft on terror'

Ron would lose his credibility if he chose someone like Giuliani & there are other considerations too; here are the options that Ron has & why Rand seems to be the best choice - http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...on-Paul-s-VP&p=3330465&viewfull=1#post3330465

We need a credible anti establishment VP. Otherwise Ron will be in danger of a coup. I admit this makes it harder for Ron to select a VP for purposes of helping win a general election.

Agreed, it must be someone anti-establishment AND at the same time, must be someone who can attrect significant amount of GOP votes; I don't think general election, with a lot of inde & some dems on our side would be that hard, while primaries will a HUGE road-block because Ron is running Republican but has very limited Republican support. So Rand being anti-establishment AND being attractive to segments which wouldn't otherwise go for Ron in primaries, we'll get a lot closer to sealing the nomination. Not to mention, Rand already being a widely recognized persona means it'll put firmly put him on the map as one of the strongest presidential candidate in 2016 so that he can carry the torch of liberty, I don't think any of other suggested people have this in their favor.

 

[Paulistinian]

My stomach hates you, its sore from laughing so hard!

i know! it sounds crazy huh... the USA is crazy!

 

[driller80545]

I li.ke Ventura and think he would be an excellent new head of the CIA. Yes! For VP I chose Walter Williams, a respected (rightfully so) economist and a black man ( as weak as that should be). So much fun to imagine the Judge as AG or on the supreme court. West as SofS or DoD, etc.

 

[JamesButabi]

I think Rand is the best choice due to his broader popularity / safety net / and the fact he wouldnt alienate more principled support.

 

[Imaginos]

I chose 3.
Napolitano, Tom Woods, and Paul (Rand).

 

[Paulistinian]

I think Rand is the best choice due to his broader popularity / safety net / and the fact he wouldnt alienate more principled support.

The general public will only see nepotism.

 

[Fredom101]

Lew Rockwell! Or Tom Woods.

 

[Imaginos]

I li.ke Ventura and think he would be an excellent new head of the CIA. Yes! For VP I chose Walter Williams, a respected (rightfully so) economist and a black man ( as weak as that should be). So much fun to imagine the Judge as AG or on the supreme court. West as SofS or DoD, etc.

I forgot Walter Williams.
Walter would be my top 5 choice for VP and he is an excellent scholar and great advocate of free market.

 

[kazmlsj]

Colin Powell. He is liked by the left and right, endorsed Obama in 2008 and managed to be the only member of George Jr.'s gang of thugs to be forgiven. I think Powell would strengthen the ticket. Paul needs someone who comes from military or intelligence. I want to see Napolitano as the Attorney General.

That is an interesting choice...though I can still see him sitting in that committee justifying the Iraq invasion. I am assuming he regrets all of that...perhaps his vision is a bit clearer now.

Kind of duplicitous in his Obama love:

*in Sepember of 2010: Colin Powell critical of President Obama
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0910/42381.html
*in May of 2011: Colin Powell: Obama blew away the birthers
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110507/ap_on_re_us/us_powell_trump

 

[kazmlsj]

Wow - that one (Guiliani) blows the mind.
I don't think I would trust that man for dog-catcher.

 

[Paulistinian]

Wow - that one (Guiliani) blows the mind.
I don't think I would trust that man for dog-catcher.

Yeah Giuliani is a scary choice... I very much would like a Powell VP, I always respected Colin Powell until Iraq2. After all was said and done he made it clear that he had been lied to and used as a scapegoat by Cheney and George Jr. They used his popularity and the trust the American people had in him as a leader to con us into Iraq 2.

I was talking to a friend today, and he strongly believes Paul needs a VP who stands for civil rights. It will help to defuse attacks on him regarding Roe v. Wade or the Civil Rights Act. Having a non-white running mate would be a method of dispelling lies that Ron Paul is a racist.

 

[Paul Or Nothing II]

I think Rand is the best choice due to his broader popularity / safety net / and the fact he wouldnt alienate more principled support.

I agree Rand has the broadest support from segments within GOP that otherwise wouldn't vote for Ron in the primaries & biggest problem for Ron right now is getting the GOP nomination while a huge chunk of GOP voters just don't like him, & choosing Rand as VP would precisely solve that problem & get Ron closer to the nomination; not to mention Rand is a much better speaker & "politician".

The general public will only see nepotism.

Well, without Rand, it'd be near impossible for Ron to win the GOP nomination. How can we expect him to get the GOP nomination when a significant amount of GOP voters just don't like him? With media being against Ron, there's only a limited amount of GOP voters that may or mayn't be converted in the few months that remain but nomination would still be far cry. Obviously, he's not going to run with a neo-con & other options just don't have the appeal that Rand has within GOP.

I was talking to a friend today, and he strongly believes Paul needs a VP who stands for civil rights. It will help to defuse attacks on him regarding Roe v. Wade or the Civil Rights Act. Having a non-white running mate would be a method of dispelling lies that Ron Paul is a racist.

How can he go along with a candidate that disagrees with him on the fundamental issue of liberty? Here's what he thinks about selection of his VP - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSgNXehimRM#t=46m5

As for Roe v Wade, well, he's running as Repub, not as Dem so that shouldn't be a big issue & further, I don't think people will have an issue with overturning it as long as Ron can make them realize that Blue-states may still keep abortion legal if that's what people in that state want.

 

[Eric21ND]

Some of these suggestions are completely out of left field. Do you guys actually listen to Dr.Paul speak? Ghouliani is the same guy that said freedom was about authority?!? Look up his exact quote, its spooky as hell! Both Rand and Ron said a Paul/Paul ticket would be weird and look too much like a gimmick to be taken seriously, so get that whimsical suggestion out of mind also. We need someone relatively young to balance out the ticket since the general public views Ron as old. An african american would certainly help dispel the racist newsletter fiasco. A woman would shore up our tremendously low polling with women. Barring that we go with someone the typical GOP voter respects and likes, someone like Demint, or Paul Ryan. I could swallow either of those two, much easier than Rudy. Someone with name recognition in republican circles is vital to energize the base.

 

[Paul Or Nothing II]

Both Rand and Ron said a Paul/Paul ticket would be weird and look too much like a gimmick to be taken seriously, so get that whimsical suggestion out of mind also.

Here is Ron's latest Q & A - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSgNXehimRM#t=46m5

Although he does seem a little iffy about it but he said it's not something Rand & him have talked about yet so he doesn't seem as dismissive about it as you are, he's probably awake to the opportunity. Again, Rand is the only person who won't turn off Ron's own base while he'll bring in his own NEW GOP votes to Ron, you can't say that so surely about the DeMints, the Ryans, etc. Further, Rand can easily be the next guy in line for presidency in 2016 if he's the VP.

Just because something hasn't been done before, doesn't mean it can't be done, Rand isn't a nobody, he has earned a lot of credibility among GOP voters in the couple of years he's been active so it'd be very hard to write the whole thing off as nepotism. In fact, we could actually sell the hell out of it as a "historic event" as father-son run as P/VP, just like last election was sold as "first black president" & Clinton was being pushed as "first female president"

Not to mention, Ron also said in the Q & A that he'd like a VP who agrees with him on the issues & Rand is the only one with a national appeal who comes closest to Ron's positions.

 

[MisterTickle]

I don't get why people would want Ventura. No offense but if you think Paul comes off as a cook Ventura looks like he's been doing cocaine. I mean I love the guy but common guys.. Ventura is no.. We need some random guy who would get the "idiot" vote not someone with the same ideas as Ron who has bad hair.

XD

 

[Krugerrand]

Rand's seat in the Senate is too valuable to give up for a VP seat.

Sadly, John Mackey wasn't on the list. He's the best choice.

 

[Pro-Life Libertarian]

Some funny picks in this thread:
Alex Jones-Conspiracy theorist
Jesse Ventura-Conspiracy theorist
Cynthia McKinney-Communist green party candidate
Dennis Kucinich-Communist
Chuck Hagel-Liberal republican who was rumored to be a VP choice for Obama
Rudy Giuliani-Moderate and the anti-Paul

 

[QueenB4Liberty]

Alex Jones and Jesse Ventura would ensure a RP loss.

Yup.

So would Lew Rockwell probably, but I voted for him, Tom Woods, and Peter Schiff.

 

[falconplayer11]

Ron Paul's VP would have to be someone 100% ready to be president. Ron is old.

Which is why I picked Jim Demint. But Tom McClintock would be the best choice by far. The most Ron Paul-like congressman in Congress today, and a dynamic communicator who Ron Paul endorsed a few years ago.

 

[gkaba]

I also chose Dennis Kucinich.