Peter Thiel has meeting with Rand Paul and delegates for Ron Paul in Tampa

[Matt Collins]

Ann Coulter threatened to shove me into the pool for not voting Romney in November.

There is a joke to be had in there somewhere

 

[Matt Collins]

And good luck with your attempts to convince people that consorting with the Borg has anything to do with liberty.

No one ever said it did. However the GOP is the only viable vehicle available to us to win back our liberty at this point in time.

 

[alucard13mmfmj]

Doug Wead has come out and said the Liberty movement needs a "political candidate" to take the torch. He was not implying the candidate had to be a politician per say. But that the candidate needed to be able to play politics. Ron Paul never did. Ron Paul has always been about the message. His style of talking can turn many people off. Listen, WE get Ron Paul. However, the masses need someone like a Bill Clinton, Barack Obama, or Marco Rubio style of politicking when it comes to giving speeches to move those voters our way. I try to tell people what politics is all about - HERDING.

I think Judge NAP could fit that bill.

Problem with Ron is he tells people what people dont want to hear. Worst is that he tells it in a horrible way. "WE caused 9/11 because of blowback." "WE" "WE" "WE".

I notice that slicker politicians, like Rand, uses "The government" or some other noun that doesn't put blame on the people/voters.

Which sounds better?
"We caused 9/11 because of blowback"
"The government caused 9/11 because of blowback"

 

[wgadget]

No one ever said it did. However the GOP is the only viable vehicle available to us to win back our liberty at this point in time.

A most depressing post, indeed.

 

[Keith and stuff]

No one ever said it did. However the GOP is the only viable vehicle available to us to win back our liberty at this point in time.

I have seen no evidence to suggest that the GOP is a viable vehicle available for us to win back our liberty nationally. Don't get me wrong, I want it to work and it certainly might. However, there is nothing suggesting it can actually work on a national level.

 

[idiom]

Problem with Ron is he tells people what people dont want to hear. Worst is that he tells it in a horrible way. "WE caused 9/11 because of blowback." "WE" "WE" "WE".

I notice that slicker politicians, like Rand, uses "The government" or some other noun that doesn't put blame on the people/voters.

Which sounds better?
"We caused 9/11 because of blowback"
"The government caused 9/11 because of blowback"

'The Government caused 9/11' has its own little mental penalty box.

Stick with the government causes unemployment.

 

[sailingaway]

Problem with Ron is he tells people what people dont want to hear. Worst is that he tells it in a horrible way. "WE caused 9/11 because of blowback." "WE" "WE" "WE".

I notice that slicker politicians, like Rand, uses "The government" or some other noun that doesn't put blame on the people/voters.

Which sounds better?
"We caused 9/11 because of blowback"
"The government caused 9/11 because of blowback"

Ron says the policymakers caused 9/11 and that if they had followed what he said before 9/11 about foreign policy it wouldn't have happened. At least that is what he said at the Rally. And general election audiences aren't GOP primary audiences.

 

[Matt Collins]

A most depressing post, indeed.

Life ain't rosy.

I have seen no evidence to suggest that the GOP is a viable vehicle available for us to win back our liberty nationally. Don't get me wrong, I want it to work and it certainly might. However, there is nothing suggesting it can actually work on a national level.

Well, Ron understands this, that's why he's a Republican after all.

But yes, our effort in my opinion needs to be on the STATE level in the near future!

 

[jbauer]

Just another reason to not get involved with the GOP. You do not speak for everyone in the liberty movement...well..the real one..not the apparently soon to be co-opted one. Some of us are not going to go gentle into that good night. But I agree apparently this is the path Rand is taking in order to fit in with them.

Well winning politically through any other means other then the GOP isn't going to work in its current form. So we're going to have to get to know them if we have any chance of sucess. Even if you feel "dirty" afterwords.

 

[BlackTerrel]

I thought I read on RPF that the CIA funded facebook... No more?

 

[BlackTerrel]

They'll simply co-opt it, I personally think the only way to break MSM stranglehold over the TV is internet TV, and we need to move quick before the establishment create the infrastructure.

We bring freedom to the TV in the same way the internet has woken us up. Here is a link to my idea that I had, if anyone has better solution or ideas they can share it to get this going.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?388373-HOW-TO-BEAT-MSM....-FREE-THE-TV

Blaming the MSM or being reliant on TV is such a cop out. This 25 year old dude runs a low budget TV show that between facebook, youtube, his own site etc... gets well over a million views EVERY DAY. Which is about as good as any CNN show and much better in the 18-30 demo that all TV wants. If you put out a product that people appreciate it will get seen.

 

[RickyJ]

I thought I read on RPF that the CIA funded facebook... No more?

They did for the most part. Peter Thiel was a minority investor in facebook.

 

[Matt Collins]

I thought I read on RPF that the CIA funded facebook... No more?

The US Intelligence apparatus funded both FB and Twitter... gee... I wonder what kind of interest they would have in those two sites?

 

[BlackTerrel]

They did for the most part. Peter Thiel was a minority investor in facebook.

Why would they bring in minority investors and open themselves up to scrutiny and give others access to their books and info? And with unlimited cash why would they require additional investors?

 

[low preference guy]

Why would they bring in minority investors and open themselves up to scrutiny and give others access to their books and info? And with unlimited cash why would they require additional investors?

to make people believe it wasn't CIA.

 

[BlackTerrel]

The US Intelligence apparatus funded both FB and Twitter... gee... I wonder what kind of interest they would have in those two sites?

When Facebook was founded there were 100 other sites that did exactly the same thing. Facebook was simply cleaner, simpler, faster.... sounds like the US government.

 

[BlackTerrel]

to make people believe it wasn't CIA.

99% of people don't and wouldn't. The other 1% will believe it regardless - case in point...

 

[low preference guy]

99% of people don't and wouldn't. The other 1% will believe it regardless - case in point...

i don't believe they're CIA.

 

[BlackTerrel]

i don't believe they're CIA.

Not you. The 1% who do.

The people who do don't change their mind based on evidence or Peter Thiel's investment.

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

The US Intelligence apparatus funded both FB and Twitter... gee... I wonder what kind of interest they would have in those two sites?

Why would they bring in minority investors and open themselves up to scrutiny and give others access to their books and info? And with unlimited cash why would they require additional investors?

They did for the most part. Peter Thiel was a minority investor in facebook.

Facebook Director Peter Thiel Bails; Sold 20M Shares As Lockup Ended
http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/375563/20120820/facebook-director-thiel-sold-20-million-shares.htm


August 20, 2012 6:21 PM EDT
Facebook Inc. (Nasdaq: FB) director Peter Thiel -- a key early investor in the social network -- sold roughly 20 million of his shares last week, cashing out the majority of his stake, a regulatory filing reveals.

Thiel sold his shares on Thursday and Friday, at prices ranging between $19.27 and $20.69 per share, as the first "lock-up" barring early investors and insiders from selling shares after the initial public offering was lifted, Bloomberg reported Monday, citing a filing with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. The sale represents most of the 27.9 million shares Thiel, who earlier co-founded PayPal and became a major venture capitalist, still held in Menlo Park, Calif.-based Facebook after selling a 16 million-share stake during the IPO, filings show.

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Fears that key stakeholders like Thiel would sell holdings after the lock-ups end have been weighing on Facebook's stock. Shares of Facebook finished Monday's regular trading session at $20.01, down nearly 50 percent from their $38 offering price in May.
Facebook, founded by Mark Zuckerberg in his Harvard University dorm room, became the only U.S. company to debut with a market value of more than $100 billion. But investors have grown disillusioned with Facebook's inability to articulate a plan to reverse slowing revenue growth.
A spokesman for Thiel, didn't immediately respond to a voice mail from Bloomberg seeking comment.

INFO:
Founded: 2004

Concepts:
Facebook Places
The Social Network

Investment Rounds

May-2009 ($200M)

• Digital Sky Technologies

November-2007 ($375M)

• Microsoft
• Li Ka Shing
• Samwer Bros

April-2006 ($25M)

• Greylock
• Accel
• Meritech
• Peter Theil

April-2005 ($12.7M)

• Accel
• Peter Theil

April-2005 ($500K)

• Peter Theil