Paul campaign disavows anti-Huntsman ad
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Huntsman is the darling of the establishment. It freaks me out at times. They are so protective over him. I've never seen anything like it.
How do you know Rand and Doug are planning a response?
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Always someone who thinks his ideas are wiser, smarter, or more righteous because of their signup date on an Internet site.
After 23 years of being an Internet user that still amazes me. Either your ideas are worth something or they are not, and if the former is true they can stand on their own and need no call to authority to validate them. So step on down from that high horse and get a grip. Anyone can Google my handle and see I've been in the libertarian biz since before most people knew the Internet even existed. We share the same goal - restoring freedom to this country - so put your personal ego aside and focus on the business at hand.
Now evidence is not proof. Evidence can be related to proof but need not be (e.g. mathematical logic). Evidence can be supplied without leading to a proof. Evidence can be misleading, a (correct) proof is by definition true. Evidence is a thing, proof is a conceptual construct. Your misconstruction of a sloppy online dictionary definition doesn't change any of the foregoing facts.
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The Ron Paul campaign should point out that the account only has this one video, an obvious screen name, was created the day the video was posted and its first referral came from Huntsman's official website right after the video was posted:
Bump for reiteration. The evidence is here.
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When they turn that into hyperdrive you get what you saw with Obama.
The situation is not (Paul vs. Huntsman vs. Romney vs. Santorum vs. Perry vs. Gingrich) vs. Obama.
The situation is Paul vs. HuntsmanRomneySantorumPerryGingrichObamaCNNNBCFoxNewsCBSNewYorkTimesWashingtonPost.
Policy wise that's the call that the electorate is going to make. Either they choose a free America with Paul, or they choose the road to fascism with a puppet of big money interests - which one doesn't matter, any of them will serve the purpose, all of them are already so corrupted as to make Satan blush with pride at the skill of his work.
So the establishment doesn't care for Huntsman any more or less than the rest of them. The same folks donate to them all! All the candidates are in thrall of big banks and other longstanding, wealthy institutional interests - the very interests that have been choking the lifeblood from our nation for generations.
This is it. This is the last chance for the US. Let's not fuck it up.
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Why is this news?
It's a shitty video somebody threw together of clips of Huntsman speaking Chinese. Since he was a Chinese ambassador is he a closet communist or something sent over here?
If I were Ron Paul I'd just laugh if somebody tried to link it to me. I mean if they were going to do an ad like that, which they wouldn't, I'd hope they at least put a little more effort into it instead of making it look like a 14 year old did it between Youporn clips.
It's a shitty video somebody threw together of clips of Huntsman speaking Chinese. Since he was a Chinese ambassador is he a closet communist or something sent over here?
If I were Ron Paul I'd just laugh if somebody tried to link it to me. I mean if they were going to do an ad like that, which they wouldn't, I'd hope they at least put a little more effort into it instead of making it look like a 14 year old did it between Youporn clips.
Its news because all of the media, from CNN to Fox, to talk radio, to random blogs, has decided to pounce on this youtube video in concert. A youtube video put up on the same day the account was made, with only 1 video, with one of the first referrals being jon2012. It is a coordinated smear to torpedo Ron in NH, and build up Huntsman. It is wholly vile.
Paul's campaign better have a press conference, or something, tomorrow addressing this. They need to call out the media for blowing up this nothing video and attributing it to Ron, they need to call out Huntsman as the source of the smear. If they ignore it, Ron is going to take significant damage in New Hampshire, possibly coming in 3rd, or at least making his 2nd place finish very far behind. Because the media is just going to keep bringing this up all weekend. That's what they're paid for, afterall.
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to be honest, this is a really stupid issue. I want to disprove it, but if I weren't a Ron Paul supporter I still wouldn't think he was responsible for some video some random internet troll made.
Ron isn't helping when he says he can't control what his supporters do. He is going along with the narrative that his supporters are responsible. Theres zero evidence but he's conceding the point.
Gawker updated with the YouTube screenshot.
http://gawker.com/5873491/whos-behind-this-stupid-jon-huntsman-manchurian-candidate-video
http://gawker.com/5873491/whos-behind-this-stupid-jon-huntsman-manchurian-candidate-video
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Okay, I found it. Tweets that mention Huntsman show up here: http://www.jon2012.com/take-action/tweets
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Ron needs to announce that he will appoint Huntsman to be Ambassador to China. 
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This is an opportunity, not a problem!
It's the same barrier we are always given to overcome. Lying distorting media deliberately trying to paint anyone who objects to the status quo as beyond the pale.
People are too smart for that, and information is no longer centrally controlled as it once was. They tried that in Iowa and still 21% of the people voted for Paul. In NH more than 21% are going to vote for Paul, no matter how much they slam him and try to marginalize him.
We're exposing them for what they are and they are helping us to do it with their evil and disingenuous behavior. They don't control the Internet yet and people are en masse realizing that the powers that be don't have their interests in mind... at all. I talk to people who have never been libertarian anything in their lives and they are suddenly worried about the things I have been worried about for decades.
We are winning. This is what the death throes of a desperate, beaten opponent - the establishment - looks like.
Turn up the pressure another notch and let's carry this ball into the end zone.
It's the same barrier we are always given to overcome. Lying distorting media deliberately trying to paint anyone who objects to the status quo as beyond the pale.
People are too smart for that, and information is no longer centrally controlled as it once was. They tried that in Iowa and still 21% of the people voted for Paul. In NH more than 21% are going to vote for Paul, no matter how much they slam him and try to marginalize him.
We're exposing them for what they are and they are helping us to do it with their evil and disingenuous behavior. They don't control the Internet yet and people are en masse realizing that the powers that be don't have their interests in mind... at all. I talk to people who have never been libertarian anything in their lives and they are suddenly worried about the things I have been worried about for decades.
We are winning. This is what the death throes of a desperate, beaten opponent - the establishment - looks like.
Turn up the pressure another notch and let's carry this ball into the end zone.
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I could be wrong, but I believe that the referral from jon2012.com came BEFORE anything was posted on twitter.
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