Palestine has rejected 31 Israeli peace treaties

And what is your evidence between CIA/ISIS? Are you just saying its the only logical explanation because the alternative/popular view of ISIS just isn't believable to you, so you're suspicious that it must all be lies?

There are many ways to tell, the easiest way to know is by watching the media. Sometimes a story or topic blows up in the media in a way that you can tell it was all planned and scripted.

Also it seems the leader of ISIS was trained by Mossad, several ISIS leaders are intelligence assets and the beheading videos are all fake.
 
There are many ways to tell, the easiest way to know is by watching the media. Sometimes a story or topic blows up in the media in a way that you can tell it was all planned and scripted.

Also it seems the leader of ISIS was trained by Mossad, several ISIS leaders are intelligence assets and the beheading videos are all fake.

Okay, so the only thing you said here that can possibly have any facts behind it are "it seems the leader of ISIS was trained by Mossad." Well why does it seem this way? Does he revert to a Hebrew accent when he talks about firearms or wiretaps? Wtf does this mean?
 
The UN admits Hamas used its schools for weapons storage. But you don't. And I'm the troll? Hamas admits it, you don't. Hamas openly calls for genocide, you deny it. I'm the troll? I think you've spent so much time circle-jerking with other anti-Israel ppl who can't read map, that you just can't comprehend the idea that Israel might not be the fictional character you've made them out to be. Get your hand off your fellow poster's cock and read up on some history for once.

Kind of like how you won't admit Israel likes to bomb children on a beach? I've linked it several times and you of course don't say a peep about it. See. Hypocrite! Trained and taught by the Israeli government. It's what you guys specialize in.
 
Kind of like how you won't admit Israel likes to bomb children on a beach? I've linked it several times and you of course don't say a peep about it. See. Hypocrite! Trained and taught by the Israeli government. It's what you guys specialize in.

No I've made it very clear, I have no idea how they made that mistake. But to take one incident and say that means they target kids is absurd. They were fighting a war and enforcing a blockage at that location. Can you show that there has EVER been a war without a similar incident? Come on, just one war, where civilians were not unintentionally killed a mile from actual belligerents? No, you can't, you dedicate your life to analyzing Israel, and ignore every other country on the planet, including Palestine.

And Israel hasn't admitted to purposely targeting innocents. Hamas actually explicitly promises to kill all the Jews... and you don't believe them. That's not bias, that's delusion.
 
No I've made it very clear, I have no idea how they made that mistake. But to take one incident and say that means they target kids is absurd. They were fighting a war and enforcing a blockage at that location. Can you show that there has EVER been a war without a similar incident? Come on, just one war, where civilians were not unintentionally killed a mile from actual belligerents? No, you can't, you dedicate your life to analyzing Israel, and ignore every other country on the planet, including Palestine.

And Israel hasn't admitted to purposely targeting innocents. Hamas actually explicitly promises to kill all the Jews... and you don't believe them. That's not bias, that's delusion.

Of course the Israeli government hasn't admitted to it. They never admit to anything. All part of being the biggest hypocrite in the world. It falls in line with the fact that the government kills kids. Then claim it was Hamas. Then claims that they want peace. You are the perfect example of the Israeli government. You highlight every positive thing the Israeli government ever did. You magnify all the bad things Hamas did. You brush off and deflect anything bad about the Israeli government did and make them out to be angels.

The rest of the world has fallen for this but unfortunately for you, the people on these forums aren't sipping on your kool-aid. The more you try to convince us, the more foolish you look.
 


So you think Israel wants to kill Palestinian civilians... why, exactly? Come on, let's see if you can be the first person to answer this question. Twomp can't, but that's okay, he stopped trying to make sense a long time ago. You're still pretending to have a brain. Use it. Why does Israel want to kill Palestinian civilians?
 
Yeah, I would reject 31 treaties that robbed my people of their land, their mineral rights, and most importantly their water rights. Every single Israeli treaty wanted to take control of the lands with the the greatest amount of the area's most valuable resource-water. I'd tell the Israelis to kiss my arse and suck a .45 round too.

As to why the Arabs allied with the Nazis, it should be obvious. The Balfour Declaration was issued in 1917. The Palestinians knew that the rest of the world was only waiting for a reason to justify setting up a Jewish state on the bones, blood, and lands of the Palestinian people. The enemy of your enemy is your friend, as the old saying goes.

Also, anyone saying that Israel only took lands in 1947 is an idiot or a fool. There is constant creep from Israel as Israeli military forces build huge fortress-like Jewish settlements on Palestinian land, pay people to move there, and then secure it with military might, in fact annexing Palestinian land to Israel's control.
 
So you think Israel wants to kill Palestinian civilians... why, exactly? Come on, let's see if you can be the first person to answer this question. Twomp can't, but that's okay, he stopped trying to make sense a long time ago. You're still pretending to have a brain. Use it. Why does Israel want to kill Palestinian civilians?

I say boredom. The Israeli government specializes in these things. They kill civilians then say oh Hamas. That video is an example of that. I'm sure the Israeli troll will say that those bullets were magic bullets and are only capable of hitting Hamas terrorists.
 
I say boredom. The Israeli government specializes in these things. They kill civilians then say oh Hamas. That video is an example of that. I'm sure the Israeli troll will say that those bullets were magic bullets and are only capable of hitting Hamas terrorists.

First of all, I contradict your idiot strawman in the very post you're responding to. Second, if Israeli government loves killing civilians... then why did they offer 95% of the West Bank and Gaza repeatedly. And if Palestinians didn't want to get killed by Israelis, then why do they all rush to the voting booths to say "Kill me, Israel, kill me, PLEASE, I'm Palestinian please kill my children, you have to, pretty please."

If you don't think Palestinians are asking for bullets to be fired back at them... then why are they firing at Israel? Why are they voting for a terrorist group that stores weapons in schools? If you attacked an armed man, do you still have the right to not have your skill crushed? I don't think so. I think attacking someone merits a skull-crushing response. But them again, you're not libertarian, you're some kind of weird wanna be leftist who holds brown ppl to the standards of animals, acting like its insignificant and par for the course when they promise genocide.

Why are Palestinians voting for a terrorist group that stores weapons in schools? That promises genocide against a superior military? WHy do they vote for a terrorist group that names schools after suicide bombers? If Israel didn't exist, I think Palestinians would go "FUCK! Now I have to kill my own children and get prosecuted for it. I wish Israel was still here so we can send over our children with bombs strapped to them, and still blame Israel for it."
 
So you think Israel wants to kill Palestinian civilians... why, exactly? Come on, let's see if you can be the first person to answer this question. Twomp can't, but that's okay, he stopped trying to make sense a long time ago. You're still pretending to have a brain. Use it. Why does Israel want to kill Palestinian civilians?

Why does America want to kill Iraqis? The answer is the same. The military-industrial complex has dominated Israel's politics since Day One. It has long been an entrenched interest in Israel's politics and like all interest it exists to perpetuate it's power. Constant terror and unending war justify that power and ensures power to those who control the military-industrial complex. Killing Palestinians causes the Palestinian people to react the same way any of us would, by attacking back. Those attacks justify the need for the dominance of the military and those who head it and the funneling of money into it and it's contractors. The cycle of violence is exactly what they want and need to survive.
 
So you think Israel wants to kill Palestinian civilians... why, exactly? Come on, let's see if you can be the first person to answer this question. Twomp can't, but that's okay, he stopped trying to make sense a long time ago. You're still pretending to have a brain. Use it. Why does Israel want to kill Palestinian civilians?
What does "want" have to do with anything? A teen could launch a brick from an overpass and strike the windshield of a vehicle. Said brick could impact and kill the driver and/or other motorists. The teen might not have wanted to kill someone. Regardless of all that, actions have consequences and people who make despicable choices should be held to account for their actions.

You launch clusterbombs and a child picks up a bomblet to play with it and explodes themselves? Well guess what? They're culpable for that death. More so I'd argue than the teen throwing bricks from the overpass as the brick thrower doesn't know with a certainty that children will be killed. That and they are most probably ignorant and emotionally immature where as Israeli and US policy makers are educated and well aware of the collateral damage to be had.

But war is hell, I'm sure you'll pontificate. I've seen all your arguments before. It gets rather old.
 
Why are Palestinians voting for a terrorist group that stores weapons in schools? That promises genocide against a superior military? WHy do they vote for a terrorist group that names schools after suicide bombers? If Israel didn't exist, I think Palestinians would go "FUCK! Now I have to kill my own children and get prosecuted for it. I wish Israel was still here so we can send over our children with bombs strapped to them, and still blame Israel for it."
Why are Americans electing terrorists that bomb schools?
 
You launch clusterbombs and a child picks up a bomblet to play with it and explodes themselves? Well guess what? They're culpable for that death. More so I'd argue than the teen throwing bricks from the overpass as the brick thrower doesn't know with a certainty that children will be killed. That and they are most probably ignorant and emotionally immature where as Israeli and US policy makers are educated and well aware of the collateral damage to be had.

More so by the fact that individuals who take lives are to be held accountable for their acts, where as the state wraps it's horrific behavior in a cloak of MORALITY.
IT'S SANITIZED MURDER IN THE NAME OF THE "PEOPLE".
 
So you think Israel wants to kill Palestinian civilians... why, exactly? Come on, let's see if you can be the first person to answer this question. Twomp can't, but that's okay, he stopped trying to make sense a long time ago. You're still pretending to have a brain. Use it. Why does Israel want to kill Palestinian civilians?

Because they have something that they want, duh. They're a "problem" that needs to be eliminated because they're making Israel's gov't look bad and they aren't on board with the Zionist program. And if they eliminate the Palestinians (who don't exist, according to you), then they can move on to the Jordanians or other countries around them.
 
So you think Israel wants to kill Palestinian civilians... why, exactly? Come on, let's see if you can be the first person to answer this question. Twomp can't, but that's okay, he stopped trying to make sense a long time ago. You're still pretending to have a brain. Use it. Why does Israel want to kill Palestinian civilians?

Have you even bothered to read the history (ancient history, that is) of the conflict between Jews and Arabs? It's a big, complicated mess of religion, politics, blood feuds, and more. Lots of bloody hands on both sides.
 
More so by the fact that individuals who take lives are to be held accountable for their acts, where as the state wraps it's horrific behavior in a cloak of MORALITY.
IT'S SANITIZED MURDER IN THE NAME OF THE "PEOPLE".
Of course.

I've written pages on the matter.

I wasn't trying to 'overwhelm' what's his name with a few thousand words which would hardly be read aside from being skimmed and which would be responded to minimally using sophist retorts and fallacious cliches, possibly one point in twenty addressed, regardless.

I know there's a "War is hell" response in my future. Lmao. Unless I'm half-drunk or become particularly annoyed with a statement, I couldn't care to even respond. I don't know, I probably shouldn't respond whatsoever.
 
Why does America want to kill Iraqis? The answer is the same. The military-industrial complex has dominated Israel's politics since Day One. It has long been an entrenched interest in Israel's politics and like all interest it exists to perpetuate it's power. Constant terror and unending war justify that power and ensures power to those who control the military-industrial complex. Killing Palestinians causes the Palestinian people to react the same way any of us would, by attacking back. Those attacks justify the need for the dominance of the military and those who head it and the funneling of money into it and it's contractors. The cycle of violence is exactly what they want and need to survive.

So... why did Israel offer the Palestinians 95% of the West Bank and Gaza repeatedly? And how exactly does Israel benefit from the military industrial complex?

What does "want" have to do with anything? A teen could launch a brick from an overpass and strike the windshield of a vehicle. Said brick could impact and kill the driver and/or other motorists. The teen might not have wanted to kill someone. Regardless of all that, actions have consequences and people who make despicable choices should be held to account for their actions.

You launch clusterbombs and a child picks up a bomblet to play with it and explodes themselves? Well guess what? They're culpable for that death. More so I'd argue than the teen throwing bricks from the overpass as the brick thrower doesn't know with a certainty that children will be killed. That and they are most probably ignorant and emotionally immature where as Israeli and US policy makers are educated and well aware of the collateral damage to be had.

But war is hell, I'm sure you'll pontificate. I've seen all your arguments before. It gets rather old.

Wait, so you're saying Israel isn't allowed to respond to a genocidal invasion if innocent civilians die? Just curious, how many other countries don't have the right to self-defense? And are you saying Israel is as evil as every other country in a war? Or are you a hypocrite?

Why are Americans electing terrorists that bomb schools?

First of all, I'm not simply accusing Hamas of wanting genocide. They say it. I don't just make shit up on forums like you ppl do, Hamas actually says it. Second, are you saying Israel isn't allowed to bomb a school that stores weapons? Are you saying Hamas has immunity from response so long as they use human shields?

Because they have something that they want, duh. They're a "problem" that needs to be eliminated because they're making Israel's gov't look bad and they aren't on board with the Zionist program. And if they eliminate the Palestinians (who don't exist, according to you), then they can move on to the Jordanians or other countries around them.

Waitwait wait. The ignorance here is astounding. You think Israel wants the West Bank and Gaza? Read the OP. Israel offered them the West Bank and Gaza repeatedly. They don't want it. They literally dismantled every Gaza settlement for nothing, nothing in return. And you think they want Gaza? Go visit Gaza. You'll vomit in ten seconds. No one wants Gaza. The most insulting thing you've ever said about Israel is that they want Gaza. If I wanted to insult your mother, I would say "Your mother wants Gaza," its an insult.

Have you even bothered to read the history (ancient history, that is) of the conflict between Jews and Arabs? It's a big, complicated mess of religion, politics, blood feuds, and more. Lots of bloody hands on both sides.

If you knew the history, you'd articulate an argument based on it, you wouldn't just say "Its complicated so you're wrong." Come on, present a fact. Here's one: the Muslims invaded Israel because it wasn't ruled by Muslims before Israel stole an inch of land. They didn't care about Palestinians anymore than the ppl on this forum do, that's why they didn't accept a single refugee, while Israel took in nearly a million refugees.

Of course.

I've written pages on the matter.

I wasn't trying to 'overwhelm' what's his name with a few thousand words which would hardly be read aside from being skimmed and which would be responded to minimally using sophist retorts and fallacious cliches, possibly one point in twenty addressed, regardless.

I know there's a "War is hell" response in my future. Lmao. Unless I'm half-drunk or become particularly annoyed with a statement, I couldn't care to even respond. I don't know, I probably shouldn't respond whatsoever.

The right to self-defense is not a cliche or a fallacy. Palestine wants all the land, and invaded Israel before Israel occupied or stole an inch of land. The fact that Israel kicks their asses everytime doesn't mean they have to sacrifice innocent civilians every now and then. Hamas is elected in Gaza, and promies to kill every Jew. The government of Israel has the power and obligation to destroy Hamas. You act like you're more intelligent because you think Israel should act like nihilists. Palestine is not nihilist. They kill ppl just for converting from Islam, or selling land to Jews, and promise to take every inch of Israel. If you don't think Israel is allowed to respond to Palestinian aggression, that doesn't make you intelligent, that makes you an asshole who doesn't understand the right to self-defense.
 
Have you even bothered to read the history (ancient history, that is) of the conflict between Jews and Arabs? It's a big, complicated mess of religion, politics, blood feuds, and more. Lots of bloody hands on both sides.

You are conflating two issues. The Jews and Arabs don't seem to have a problem getting along. It's the Zionists (most of which aren't Hebrew) that have the problem.

edit: Please don't propagate the propaganda "They've been fighting for thousands of years, let them kill each other".
 
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