Palestine has rejected 31 Israeli peace treaties

Speaking of rational thought, what about Israel took the land originally? And, their people aren't living by the oath that Abraham made with the indigenous people. If all of that has anything to do with the truth.

And than, there is the person, the individual. Who gives a shit about a county if it can't enhance the individual. You know, the one that lives and breathes, that works the land and has life that is living and breathing and thinking.

Omg you ppl need to learn basic history. Before 1947, Jews only bought land. In 1947, the Arabs invaded Israel for the first in a dozen times, and kicked out even more Jews than the Muslims kicked out by Israel. Do you disagree with any of these facts?
 
Of course fifty yr old offers aren't valid. My pt is that Israel wants peace, Palestine doesn't. You don't have a response to this.

Sorry, all those bombs on children make your argument for "Israel wants peace" pretty weak.
 
Whether it was or wasn't a country is immaterial. The Arab Palestinians had homes, and orchards where "Israel" stands today. They were kicked off their land at the barrel of a gun, and are now essentially prisoners in the biggest open air prison in the world in Gaza.

And are repeated victims of brutal Zionist aggression as was the case recently when over 3,000 Palestinians were killed - most civilians. Women and children. Schools and hospitals were intentionally target by the Zionist regime. All this slaughter over three dead Jews in the West Bank. It was totally absurd.

Imagine if the US attacked Mexico because some kids who went across the border to Tijuana got killed in a drug related crossfire. Can you imagine the outrage if the US just started capping Mexican women and children and blowing up Mexican hospitals? But Israel gets a free pass because their ancestors suffered a six trillion holocaust or whatever the numbers been revised upwards to today so they can continue committing war crimes and extorting money through reparations.

Pretty sure the entire land of greater syria is full of one tribe knocking off women and children of the other tribe. israel is just another of the ancient tribes in this region of the world.

i have a hard time with placing the blame on a group of people called a country for the actions of their corrupt greedy and tyrant leaders. if the truth be told, all the people in that area of the world are severely oppressed, not just the so call palestinians. and if you really want to hate a group of people called a country for the actions of their leaders, you should hate people associated with that group called americans. for it is that group's corrupt greedy and tyrant leaders who actually fund and arm ALL the tribes in that area of the world to oppress the non privileged individuals there regardless if they identify with a particular tribe or not.

It's really hypocrisy of the highest order from my view to ideologically or otherwise give credit to one tribe over the other based on the corrupt, greedy and tyrannical actions of their so called leaders. Especially if you are an American, and especially if you align yourself with the revival of liberty and the roots of historical freedom in America.
 
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No I wasn't. So why is your memory so bad? You thought Palestine was a country before 1947? Should have paid closer attention to the radio. Was the signal sketchy?
You may want to try reading for comprehension. I hear it often works wonders.
The title of this thread is what again? Who rejected something?
 
You may want to try reading for comprehension. I hear it often works wonders.
The title of this thread is what again? Who rejected something?

Oh so just to be clear, you're NOT saying Palestine was ever a country? Right? Since you claim I'm misinterpreting you.
 
Sorry, all those bombs on children make your argument for "Israel wants peace" pretty weak.

Then why did they give away the majority of their land for a peace treaty with Egypt and Jordan? If they don't want peace?
 
Then why did they give away the majority of their land for a peace treaty with Egypt and Jordan? If they don't want peace?
Since we are talking about the past, why did Obama say he would repeal the patriot act then sign to renew the patriot act in 2010? I guess people lie huh?
 
Lol yeah, your airtight case for me being a Zionist agent. You can't respond to basic arguments, you can't hold Israel to the same standard as other countries, and when you're called out on it you cry "Zionist agent" over and over. Lol its not at all plausible that I'm some biased, brainwashed Zionist (who routinely condemns Zionism, while you ppl can't condemn Islamism). No, he must be a Zionist agent. That's an "airtight case."

LOL quote me 'cry(ing) "Zionist agent" over and over' or you're building strawmen rather than even attempting to debate in a rational manner and you're a baldfaced liar to boot for putting words in my mouth (and a rude one, too).
 
No, I'm not saying that at all. Just show me where.

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The title of this thread is what again? Who rejected something?

I don't understand your argument in regards to "who" wanted something. Clearly the OP is stating that it is not the Jews who reject Palestine and Palestinians as a state. It's the Palestinians who reject themselves as a state.

I actually don't see a problem with this. The problem I see is the false dilemma presented by Israel and the "international" community attempting to project statehood on a people who clearly do not want that.

It seems contradictory without the historical context going back prior to the international recognition of the state of Israel. I think it becomes even more clear when taken in the context of the so called Palestinians already see themselves as part of the much larger and historical Greater Syrian caliphate that existed for some 1300 years prior to having their territory carved up by usurpers.

Of course we can go all the way back to ancient Israel that created the first recognizable kingdom in this territory in the historical record. Prior to that we must break down groupings into tribes of nomadic people living on unsettled land.

The jewish tribe was the first tribe in this region to settle the land. The people living in what everyone but the people living there call the territory of Palestine don't want a state.

Doesn't change the fact that this territory is historically brutalized. Just so happens that today the people with the best weapons are the jewish tribe. wasn't like that for the last 1300 years prior to post wwii. and prior to that it was some other tribe all the way back to the original settling of the area after the conquering of the city of Jerusalem by the jews.

I mean really, it's sort of complicated, but the OP topic did a fine job of making it clear that its the so called PALS are rejecting statehood, not the Israeli's. As far as peace, I am sure all the people want peace save for a few greedy corrupt and tyrannical one's who profit off the wars. They manipulate their populations into believing war is good for them and send their children off to die for a fake cause. Sound familiar?
 
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I think it's ironic that people will eschew the idea of physical intervention in regards to a fight between neighbors while espousing a revolution of ideas, yet have no qualms of taking ideological sides in the same conflict. hmm... maybe i'm not in the thread I thought i was in.

What a neighboring couple is loudly quarreling about is not my business, but yes, I might have an opinion based on what I've heard.

Why argue with a Israeli troll about Israel? It's like arguing with a child about Santa Claus. Do you know who Santa Claus is? In America, we tell our children about him to sort of explain Christmas. Kind of like how we tell our children about the holocaust so they learn to allow Israel to do whatever it wants in the Middle East. It's like hey Israel just killed a bunch of Palestinian children. And the answer is usually, " well its okay because you know, the holocaust."

Succinctly put. I wouldn't say maybemaybenot is a IDF troll/shill/asset whatever, just somebody acting 100% consistent with a troll/shill/asset whatever. Somebody fulfilling the role, perhaps without picking up their check. One thing I won't call the OP is a Ron Paul troll/shill/asset whatever.
 
If Israel wants peace they should actually give basic rights to the Palestinians like we eventually did with Native Americans.

Oh, I'm sure they don't want basic rights any more than they want a nation. In fact, they don't want to live. That's obvious; if they wanted to live they wouldn't even look cross-eyed at our Military Industrial Complex's poster child, right? Tell us, LOLboy, do they want to live?

I think it's time to try the kryptonite on SuperIsraeliTroll. Yo, maybenot. Tell us a tale about a ship named U.S.S. Liberty.
 
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I think it's time to try the kryptonite on SuperIsraeliTroll. Yo, maybenot. Tell us a tale about a ship named U.S.S. Liberty.

Or the Lavon Affair.

Peace my ass..

No doubt some of the people suckered into moving there want peace.. but Israel was created by powerful interests to incite war.
The bankers that promoted it from the beginning thrive on war.
 
Maybe if the Israelis didn't keep the Palestinians in a concentration camp, they would consider peace.
 
You do realize, don't you, that most of us are in another former British colony, that most of us are of the opinion that the citizens of that colony who declared independence had every right to do so, and that you are really, really barking up the wrong tree if you think we think those people had more right to do so than people who had lived on their 'British Crown Colony' since before the Normans learned to paint themselves blue...?



We make the case, you ignore the fact, and you want us to keep saying stuff? Why? You won't acknowledge the point even if we make seven or eight airtight cases. And you know it.
Indeed! And some here live in former Spanish territories.
 
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