OK - Cop kills family dog on front lawn

[Anti Federalist]

Fuck you and fuck your dog. Move along, maggot. - Officer Friendly.



Tulsa police officer shoots, kills family's 2-year-old dog

http://www.kjrh.com/news/tulsa-police-officer-shoots-kills-familys-2-year-old-dog

TULSA - A south Tulsa family is demanding answers after they say a police officer shot their 2-year-old dog three times with a shotgun.

Daniel Teague says his fiancée and three sons were inside their home when they heard gunshots outside. His son walked out to find a Tulsa police officer and his 2-year-old dog, Mia, dead on the lawn.

"I don't understand why animal control wasn't here." said Teague. "He could have honked his horn or got on his speaker in his cop car, because the neighbor told him that it was our dog and where we lived."

Teague's neighbor Shawn Kat said he had seen Mia running through the neighborhood a couple of times this week. He said she was barking at those passing by and that she could be "scary," though, he had never known her to attack or bite anyone.

"She's just a big baby," said Teague. "She would never hurt anyone."

Teague said this was the first time anyone had called the police about their dog, and that she had escaped the yard a few times through a hole in the fence.

A TPD spokesperson said Officer Don Holloway was called to the neighborhood on a vicious dog complaint at about 8:20 Wednesday morning. He said someone reported a "very large grey pit bull, 80 to 100 lbs., was running loose, trying to bite people."

TPD said animal control was notified, but that their office hours don't begin until 9 a.m.

He said Mia "charged" Holloway, who then used deadly force.

Witnesses said Holloway did not get out of the car before shooting Mia. He declined to be interviewed for this story.

Teague and his family want to know why Holloway didn't ask the family to come and get Mia rather than shoot her.

"He shot her in our front yard three times with a shotgun," said Teague. "And there were three kids and my girlfriend in the house that could have got her."

 

[Ender]

"Charged" at him- in his car. Riiiight.

Probably wasn't even a Pit. Every dog's a Pit when you need an excuse for killing it.

 

[phill4paul]

Witnesses said Holloway did not get out of the car before shooting Mia.

A hero that put himself in harm's way and feared for his life because of it.

 

[Natural Citizen]

"He shot her in our front yard three times with a shotgun," said Teague. "And there were three kids and my girlfriend in the house that could have got her."

Which also confirms that there were three kids and a girlfriend in the house that could have made sure that she wasn't running loose and put into the situation in the first place. Dogs are like your kids. They're a responsibility.

And all dogs bit. Every single one of them. If someone says their dog doesn't bite, they're full of sht. They all bite.

As a matter of fact, I'd bet anything that the owners likely had a "Beware of Dog" sign some place on their property.

One of my old neighbors had a Beware of Dog sign on his property. But he always told everyone his dog didn't bite whenever the little prick got loose and went out after people to guard his territory (the sidewalk or street or whatever...in his mind it was all his territory). So, then, one day I asked him why the heck he had a beware of dog sign posted if he didn't bite. I said, you're letting your dog run loose, he's chasing people all over the place and trying to dominate everyone who walks/rides by and we're supposed to just fukin beware of the little sht on our own property where he's come to push his chest out? And I told him if the dog ever came like he was going to bite me that I was going to roll him backwards about three times across the street and back into his own yard.

The look on the idiot's face was priceless.

Now, if the dog hasn't left his owner's property and isn't bothering anyone it's a different story. I get that. Still, though, dogs don't reason. They react. And they know no boundaries unless they've been taught to know them. Which, obviously, this animal wasn't taught.

It sucks that the dog got shot and killed. I don't like to read these stories of dogs being shot. But most with dominant dogs are two things. Not competent to own one and lazy. The dog should have been supervised. And if they knew he jumped/got through fences, they should have built a taller fence or fixed the holes. Or better yet, go outside with him and train him. Play fetch or something. Give him a job to do. wtf...

 

[phill4paul]

Which also confirms that there were three kids and a girlfriend in the house that could have made sure that she wasn't running loose and put into the situation in the first place. Dogs are like your kids. They're a responsibility.

And all dogs bit. Every single one of them. If someone says their dog doesn't bite, they're full of sht. They all bite.

No denying that. Our new Pit-bull pup got out by digging under the gate last week. Neighbor called and let us know. She was home when I immediately came back. I poured a cement footer and laid some brick. So certainly there is some responsibility on the owners part. They didn't take the time to fix a fence. If my neighbor had shot her and said she was killing his chickens I could let that slide. If a cop shot my dog on the road because she was said to have been threatening them. I could suck it up and let that slide.

However, the dog wasn't shot on a neighbors property or even on "public" property. It was shot in the homeowners yard. You shoot my dog on my property and you're not gonna walk away.

 

[Anti Federalist]

"Charged" at him- in his car. Riiiight.

Probably wasn't even a Pit. Every dog's a Pit when you need an excuse for killing it.

 

[TheTexan]

It must have been a really big dog, charging at a car like that.

 

[Natural Citizen]

No denying that. Our new Pit-bull pup got out by digging under the gate last week. Neighbor called and let us know. She was home when I immediately came back. I poured a cement footer and laid some brick. So certainly there is some responsibility on the owners part. They didn't take the time to fix a fence. If my neighbor had shot her and said she was killing his chickens I could let that slide. If a cop shot my dog on the road because she was said to have been threatening them. I could suck it up and let that slide.

However, the dog wasn't shot on a neighbors property or even on "public" property. It was shot in the homeowners yard. You shoot my dog on my property and you're not gonna walk away.

Mm. Yeah, that's another aspect of it. You're lucky to have neighbors who know you and the dog and aren't afraid of it and know to call you and let you know.

Even if we accept that this dog wasn't a high drive dog or aggressive toward people (which it likely wasn't vicious at all...maybe skittish from people acting crazy when they saw it), the fact remains that people are people. Most people see a dog running toward them or loose around them, they go absolutely nuts. And that alone sets the dog off and causes him to get skittish. They fear bite in those situations. It makes the dog defensive when people are acting a fool out of fear. And those are the ones who call the cops. And, then, we get what we got here because the cop shows up with the preconceived idea that he's dealing with a vicious animal and it's still loose and skittish without owner supervision.


Anyway. I hate reading stories like this. I really do. It just could have been avoided in the first place.

 

[Dr.3D]

It must have been a really big dog, charging at a car like that.

Maybe it was a CopCar Retriever.

 

[Ender]

Which also confirms that there were three kids and a girlfriend in the house that could have made sure that she wasn't running loose and put into the situation in the first place. Dogs are like your kids. They're a responsibility.

And all dogs bit. Every single one of them. If someone says their dog doesn't bite, they're full of sht. They all bite.

As a matter of fact, I'd bet anything that the owners likely had a "Beware of Dog" sign some place on their property.

One of my old neighbors had a Beware of Dog sign on his property. But he always told everyone his dog didn't bite whenever the little prick got loose and went out after people to guard his territory (the sidewalk or street or whatever...in his mind it was all his territory). So, then, one day I asked him why the heck he had a beware of dog sign posted if he didn't bite. I said, you're letting your dog run loose, he's chasing people all over the place and trying to dominate everyone who walks/rides by and we're supposed to just fukin beware of the little sht on our own property where he's come to push his chest out? And I told him if the dog ever came like he was going to bite me that I was going to roll him backwards about three times across the street and back into his own yard.

The look on the idiot's face was priceless.

Now, if the dog hasn't left his owner's property and isn't bothering anyone it's a different story. I get that. Still, though, dogs don't reason. They react. And they know no boundaries unless they've been taught to know them. Which, obviously, this animal wasn't taught.

It sucks that the dog got shot and killed. I don't like to read these stories of dogs being shot. But most with dominant dogs are two things. Not competent to own one and lazy. The dog should have been supervised. And if they knew he jumped/got through fences, they should have built a taller fence or fixed the holes. Or better yet, go outside with him and train him. Play fetch or something. Give him a job to do. wtf...

Sorry but my Shar Pei, who just recently passed away- never bit. he hardly even barked- maybe once a month, max.

 

[phill4paul]

Mm. Yeah, that's another aspect of it. You're lucky to have neighbors who know you and the dog and aren't afraid of it and know to call you and let you know.

Even if we accept that this dog wasn't a high drive dog or aggressive toward people (which it likely wasn't vicious at all...maybe skittish from people acting crazy when they saw it), the fact remains that people are people. Most people see a dog running toward them or loose around them, they go absolutely nuts. And that alone sets the dog off and causes him to get skittish. They fear bite in those situations. It makes the dog defensive when people are acting a fool out of fear. And those are the ones who call the cops. And, then, we get what we got here because the cop shows up with the preconceived idea that he's dealing with a vicious animal and it's still loose and skittish without owner supervision.


Anyway. I hate reading stories like this. I really do. It just could have been avoided in the first place.

And then there are "neighbors" that are assholes that make up shit just to fuck you. Can't forget that aspect. No one was bit. No evidence whatsoever that this dog was a menace. The dog was supposedly "trying to bite people." Believe me if a 80# pitt-bull wants to bite you. It will.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Sorry but my Shar Pei, who just recently passed away- never bit. he hardly even barked- maybe once a month, max.

Was he ever four or five blocks away by himself and in the company of a half-dozen people shitting bricks and acting a fool and causing him to react defensively? Put your Shar Pei in that scenario and it's a given that it will. And it's a given that the cops will be called.

 

[Natural Citizen]

And then there are "neighbors" that are $#@!s that make up $#@! just to $#@! you. Can't forget that aspect. No one was bit. No evidence whatsoever that this dog was a menace. The dog was supposedly "trying to bite people." Believe me if a 80# pitt-bull wants to bite you. It will.

Yeah, I know. I'm not defending what happened here at all. Although it may sound that way. Heck, if I was the cop I would have got on my horn or loudspeaker or whatever instead. Maybe try to get the owner's attention.

They should have fixed the dumb hole in the fence if they couldn't be there to supervise it or throw it a stick or something, though. That's all they had to do. The dog would still be alive. They're talking about coulda woulda shoulda in the wrong direction first is all.

 

[TheTexan]

I'm glad the car is OK. Otherwise the Officer in the car could have gotten hurt.

 

[phill4paul]

Yeah, I know. I'm not defending what happened here at all. Although it may sound that way. Heck, if I was the cop I would have got on my horn or loudspeaker or whatever instead. Maybe try to get the owner's attention.

They should have fixed the dumb hole in the fence if they couldn't be there to supervise it or throw it a stick or something, though. That's all they had to do. The dog would still be alive. They're talking about coulda woulda shoulda in the wrong direction first is all.

There were a number of choices that could have been made on all parties. But, the fault here lies with the cop. He did nothing other than drive up. When the dog approached the vehicle he simply shot it. From inside the vehicle.
This is a story about cop interaction. Not coulda woulda shoulda. Shooting the dog in the owners yard, while safely in his vehicle, falls on one person and one person only.

 

[sam1952]

This story confuses me... Ok, the cop was in his car, the dog "charged" the car? The officer? The officer fired three times from his shotgun and shot the dog in its yard. Was the car in the yard? If on the street the dog wasn't that close if shot in its yard. So, discharging a shotgun with, assuming, some kinda buckshot (can't imagine a slug) the spread would seem to be concerning. And three shots to bring it down. Did he miss the first two times? That dog had to look like ground meat taking three rounds of shotgun blast...

Am guessing the officer had lots of adrenalin to fire off three rounds. Wonder if they checked his pants for, you know, evidence to justify the discharge, imagine the fear of his life he must of been dealing with...

 

[Ender]

Was he ever four or five blocks away by himself and in the company of a half-dozen people $#@!ting bricks and acting a fool and causing him to react defensively? Put your Shar Pei in that scenario and it's a given that it will. And it's a given that the cops will be called.

My dog loved people so much that he would run to everyone with a big smile on his face- truth. I was always afraid that some cop would mistake his friendliness as "aggressive". If you threw a brick at him, he's just run.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Yeah, I know. I'm not defending what happened here at all. Although it may sound that way. Heck, if I was the cop I would have got on my horn or loudspeaker or whatever instead. Maybe try to get the owner's attention.

They should have fixed the dumb hole in the fence if they couldn't be there to supervise it or throw it a stick or something, though. That's all they had to do. The dog would still be alive. They're talking about coulda woulda shoulda in the wrong direction first is all.

When I was a kid, dogs got "out" all the time, some friendly, some not.

I can not, at all, recall any circumstance, where the local cops had to start shooting them.

Mailmen, UPS drivers, meter readers...and hundreds of others, have to deal with the same thing.

Out of all those people that may visit a home or neighborhood, why is it only cops that end up shooting them?

The answer is simple:

Fuck you, and fuck your dog...now, I already told you once, I ain't telling you again, move the fuck along! - Officer Friendly.