Official Thread: 2024 Vote Fraud

The opinion has nothing to do with ballots received after election day. It deals solely with the failure to date a ballot envelope under circumstances where the date has absolutely no significance.

That relies on trusting the election staff to do it properly and honestly.

The whole point of election laws (such as requiring a date on the envelope) is to put a check on the election staff. Especially when counting takes week(s) which is itself ridiculous.

But who cares about election laws anymore?
 
It helps to know anything about the history of elections, and states counting ballots received AFTER election day. This decision will allow continued illegal vote harvesting after election day and with no way to verify when the ballots were filled out and mailed.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/20...tension-pennsylvania-ballot-counting-n1243949

One giant benefit to this for cheaters is that if the date on the envelope doesn't matter, then the envelope doesn't matter, and they don't have to keep the envelope.

Getting rid of the envelope makes it exponentially easier to fake ballots because the envelope is a lot harder to fake in mass quantities.
 
Crazier things have happened. But yea I know where I'd place my bet


Trump is/went so far left that he draws from the left. Now he has both sides on his side. The U.S. is now Trump Nation.

The only thing that is not known is when it will be renamed the United States of Israel. For now at least, until the next admin, Trump will retain the name of Trump Nation in honor of himself.
 
I would also point out, that when people say "the court" they are really usually referring to a dude in a dress. In this case I think its a few dudes in dresses.

"The honorable judges" LOL
 
Trump is/went so far left that he draws from the left.

He is left (every politician is, minus like 2), but I certainly don't see the majority of the mainstream left getting on board with him any time soon.
 
He is left (every politician is, minus like 2), but I certainly don't see the majority of the mainstream left getting on board with him any time soon.


lol we shall see. Even [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] is getting all happy/excited/giddy about a "police-state" and blacks getting onboard. Neither side will address the real issue/solution so here we are.

Trump tried twice already to rid the Constitution. Third time's usually the charm.
 
lol we shall see. Even [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] is getting all happy/excited/giddy about a "police-state" and blacks getting onboard. Neither side will address the real issue/solution so here we are.

Trump tried twice already to rid the Constitution. Third time's usually the charm.

You hate the constitution and think it's a fraud.

What do you care if it's overturned?

You're an island, it won't bother you in Agoriland.
 
Mail-in ballots also need to be counted by 11:59 pm same day. Anything after that needs to be null and void.
This will help limit corruption and extended vote counting that last days/weeks. It's wrong.

I'm not sure why this isn't understood by Democrats. Oh, wait...
 
You hate the constitution and think it's a fraud.

What do you care if it's overturned?

You're an island, it won't bother you in Agoraland.


lol don't get mad at me. I've said before, I'll keep the BoR's, you can keep the "take and redistribute" part.

Trump's plan isn't to get rid of the "take and redistribute" part, but rather the BoR's as outlined in his Agenda47. Stand proud! Because, you know, "they" hate us for our freedom!
 
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lol don't get mad at me. I've said before, I'll keep the BoR's, you can keep the "take and redistribute" part.

Trump's plan isn't to get rid of the "take and redistribute" part, but rather the BoR's as outlined in his Agenda47. Stand proud! Because, you know, "they" hate us for our freedom!

Oh I'm not mad, was just a little confused at your stance here.
 
That relies on trusting the election staff to do it properly and honestly.

The whole point of election laws (such as requiring a date on the envelope) is to put a check on the election staff. Especially when counting takes week(s) which is itself ridiculous.

According to the opinion the envelopes contained a "timestamped date indicating its timely receipt by the voter’s respective county board of elections by 8:00 p.m. on Election Day".

So pray tell what is the significance of a handwritten date?
 
If only the postal service had some kind of mechanical contraption which could print the date of receipt onto envelopes.

Perhaps I will invent such a device.

According to the opinion the envelopes contained a "timestamped date indicating its timely receipt by the voter’s respective county board of elections by 8:00 p.m. on Election Day".

So pray tell what is the significance of a handwritten date?

How can you be so intentionally obtuse? is it deliberate? I already showed you, the PA Supreme Court already ruled previously requiring ballots received after election day to be counted. Now they rule there is no requirement to verify a ballot was filled out and sent by election day as required by law. So on November 5th, when the counting starts, and Harris looks to be behind, the next day Nov 6th, court rules must count ballots received after election day, and Democrat election machine harvests more ballots after the election is supposed to be over.
 
According to the opinion the envelopes contained a "timestamped date indicating its timely receipt by the voter’s respective county board of elections by 8:00 p.m. on Election Day".

So pray tell what is the significance of a handwritten date?

The difference is who is holding the stamp
 
So on November 5th, when the counting starts, and Harris looks to be behind, the next day Nov 6th, court rules must count ballots received after election day, and Democrat election machine harvests more ballots after the election is supposed to be over.
Why are the people committing voter fraud unable to write a fraudulent date on the envelope?
 
The difference is who is holding the stamp

And just who do you think that is? Ya think it just might be someone at the county board of elections? And if you that person would deliberately back date the stamp to hide the fact that the ballot was received after the election day deadline, wouldn't he or she do so whether or not the envelope had a handwritten date on it?
 
How can you be so intentionally obtuse? is it deliberate? I already showed you, the PA Supreme Court already ruled previously requiring ballots received after election day to be counted. Now they rule there is no requirement to verify a ballot was filled out and sent by election day as required by law. So on November 5th, when the counting starts, and Harris looks to be behind, the next day Nov 6th, court rules must count ballots received after election day, and Democrat election machine harvests more ballots after the election is supposed to be over.

What in the world does this have to do with whether a date (which is not used to determine the timeliness of a ballot, a voter’s qualifications/eligibility to vote, or fraud)* was put on the outer envelope?

Keep in mind that the case involved a challenge based on a provision in the PA constitution requiring elections be free and equal. Since the date requirement serves no purpose the Court held that those wo gailed to date the envelope were being disfranchised, resulting in an unequal election.

* In fact, the PA Secretary of State confirmed that none of the county boards of elections use the handwritten date for any purpose.
 
Oh I'm not mad, was just a little confused at your stance here.

I don't intend to speak for PAF (though it ends up that way sometimes) but I need to point out that the constitution-hate you're talking about has almost nothing to do with content.
I agree with the concept of rights, I agree that rights are to be protected, and I agree that any system we espouse ought to be doing that.
The problem with the US Constitution is that it is objectively terrible at all of those.

I reject the idea of fealty to the constitution for its own sake. We are in a position where we are 16 years after the point where Ron Paul made the most serious attempt at directing the country back to constitutionalism, and yet even Ron Paul diverges from constitutionalism on the topic of immigration and border control. Neither of those is constitutionally prescribed, they are not powers granted to the federal government, and every argument in favor of federal border control relies on redefining or stretching the meaning of words, in exactly the same manner that leftists use to justify gun control and the welfare state.

If the constitution's greatest champions can't even stick to the text, then what they're championing isn't the constitution. I simply recognize this. If we all agreed that it says what it says and it doesn't say what it doesn't say, that would be a starting point to discussion on what we would change. But we can't even get that conversation off the ground. Everyone has their pet issue they're willing to read into the text, and if we can't all agree to stop doing that, then constitutionalism effectively doesn't exist, whether I actively want it crushed or not.

I suspect a lot of anarchists would agree to constitutionalism if we could get there, and I suspect a lot of us are anarchists only because we recognize we can't get there.
 
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