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Official Thread: 2024 Vote Fraud

Swordsmyth

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Around 10% to 27% of noncitizens living in the United States are illicitly registered to vote, which could see up to 2.7 million illegal votes being cast in the November presidential election.
The significant amount of potential illegal votes could be enough to help Democrats repeat 2020.
According to a study from the research institute Just Facts, the 2022 U.S. census recorded approximately 19 million adult noncitizens.
“Given their voter registration rates, this means that about 2 million to 5 million of them are illegally registered to vote,” the report observes.


“These figures are potentially high enough to overturn the will of the American people in major elections, including congressional seats and the presidency.”
James Agresti, president of Just Facts, discussed the scope of noncitizens casting ballots ad its implications.
“[T]here are very broad openings for noncitizens to vote,” he explained.
“In no state in the nation are they required to provide proof of U.S. citizenship in order to register to vote. Now, a couple of states like Arizona tried to enact that requirement, but they were blocked by a court ruling supported by the Obama administration,” he added.


“And if you look at the federal voter-registration form, it says you can submit all different forms of ID to register.”
“That could be a Social Security number; it could be a driver’s license number; or it could just be a utility bill.”
“I mean, these are things that anyone can get by living here. They do not prove you’re a U.S. citizen.”
“And more than that, a lot of noncitizens have faked Social Security numbers, especially illegal immigrants. That’s what they do to work.”
“A recent estimate by the Social Security Administration tallied 2.5 million noncitizens who had Social Security numbers gained by using fake birth certificates or stealing those numbers from somebody else.”
The Daily Signal reported that Hans von Spakovsky, a senior legal fellow at The Heritage Foundation and board member of the Public Interest Legal Foundation, concurred. (Heritage founded The Daily Signal in 2014.)
“[T]he problem is, states aren’t doing very much to verify citizenship, so it’s extremely easy for someone who’s not a citizen to register to vote and to vote in elections,” he remarked during Monday’s edition of “Washington Watch.”
“And when that is discovered, oftentimes nothing is done about it.
Agresti went on to point out the effect that lax enforcement of citizen verification could have in November.
ased on the latest available data, approximately 1 million to 2.7 million noncitizens are going to vote in the upcoming presidential election unless something changes. And that is more than enough to tip the results of congressional races, Senate races, and yes, the U.S. presidency.”
Von Spakovsky echoed Agresti’s concerns.
t doesn’t matter whether they’re black or white, Asian or Hispanic. It doesn’t matter which political party they support. Every time an alien illegally votes, that alien is voiding, negating the vote of a citizen, no matter which political party they support,” he contended.
“And the Democrats just don’t seem to want to understand that or to basically ignore it.”
Agresti further reflected on the motivations behind the Democrats’ opposition to efforts to improve election integrity.


t’s always hard to read people’s minds, but I can tell you this: The vast bulk of these noncitizens are voting for Democrats.”
“According to the best data we have, about 80% of them will vote for Democrats when they vote illegally.”
“And Democrats are fighting tooth and nail to prevent any kind of checking of people’s citizenship. It does benefit them. Is that their reasoning? It’s an obvious incentive, but I can’t read their minds.”
Earlier this month, House Republicans attempted to address the issue by introducing a bill that would require proof of citizenship to register to vote and would remove noncitizens from existing voter rolls.
But Agresti expressed doubt about the bill’s chances of passage. “My guess is it will move in the House and die in the Senate, but that’s just an educated guess. And again, even if somehow it got through the Senate, there’s no way [President] Joe Biden’s signing that bill.”

More at: https://disswire.com/almost-3-million-noncitizens-could-vote-illegally-in-u-s-election-study/
 
In 2014, the academic journal Electoral Studiespublished a groundbreaking study by three scholars who estimated how frequently non-citizens were illegally voting. Based on data for the 2008 presidential and congressional elections, the study found that:

  • “roughly one quarter of non-citizens” in the U.S. “were likely registered to vote.”
  • “6.4% of non-citizens actually voted.”
  • 81.8% of them “reported voting for Barack Obama.”
  • illegal votes cast by non-citizens “likely” changed “important election outcomes” in favor of Democrats, “including Electoral College votes” and a “pivotal” U.S. Senate race that enabled Democrats to pass Obamacare.
The study’s voter registration rate was estimated with data from two key sources:

  1. A national survey in which 14.8% of non-citizens admitted that they were registered to vote.
  2. A database of registered voters that reveals what portion of the surveyed non-citizens “were in fact registered” even though “they claimed not to be registered.”
By combining these data, the author’s “best” estimate was that 25.1% of non-citizens were illegally registered to vote.
The authors calculated voter turnout with the same datasets, but their methodology yielded a best estimate that 6.4% of non-citizens voted in 2008—lower than the 8.0% of non-citizens who stated “I definitely voted” and explicitly named the candidate they voted for. This and other matters led Just Facts to engage in extensive correspondence with the lead author of the study to verify practically every detail of it.
Just Facts then conducted a comparable study that used the same datasets, a more straightforward methodology, and related studies to constrain assumptions. This found that roughly 27% of non-citizens were registered to vote and about 16% of them voted in the 2008 national elections.

More at: https://www.justfacts.com/news_non-citizen_voter_registration
 
“6.4% of non-citizens actually voted.”

Wow. If they concentrated them all in one district they could totally steal a mayor's office. If the town wasn't too big.

6.4 percent of almost one percent of the population. No wonder Republicans are more ate up with this than dead people voting , mail in ballots and Dominion machines combined.

Either that or the ARMSM is doing a heckofa job using it to distract MAGA from the real problems.
 
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Wow. If they concentrated them all in one district they could totally steal a mayor's office. If the town wasn't too big.

6.4 percent of almost one percent of the population. No wonder Republicans are more ate up with this than dead people voting , mail in ballots and Dominion machines combined.

Either that or the ARMSM is doing a heckofa job using it to distract MAGA from the real problems.

That's just the ones they know about.
And it's enough to throw close races.
And nobody is distracted from any of the other problems.

You are your buddies want to distract us from this one.
 
Wow. If they concentrated them all in one district they could totally steal a mayor's office. If the town wasn't too big.

6.4 percent of almost one percent of the population. No wonder Republicans are more ate up with this than dead people voting , mail in ballots and Dominion machines combined.

Either that or the ARMSM is doing a heckofa job using it to distract MAGA from the real problems.

GA swung on less than 12000 votes in 2020.

AZ swung on less than 11000 votes in 2020.

WI swung on less than 20000 votes in 2020.

A change in those three states would have changed the overall outcome in 2020.

There are now 10 million more invaders than in 2020, as best as anybody can count, because, well, it's an invasion.

There is no question they are recruiting new voters from this unwholesome flood, they have been caught numerous times in the act.

The only question is: why are you running interference for them?
 
That's just the ones they know about.
And it's enough to throw close races.
And nobody is distracted from any of the other problems.

You are your buddies want to distract us from this one.

You and your buddies want to distract us from the fact that nothing has been done to curb the abuse of the mail-in voting "system", which just happens to be how they stole 2020.

The only question is: why are you running interference for them?

Reminding people of proven problems known to have already deprived you of your Trumpy Bear, and not fixed yet, is running interference for them? Distracting people from that isn't?

Seriously. Pointing out that one state out of fifty took a stab at eliminating one of the two known, long standing problems proven to have already been at the heart of the 2020 debacle, and using that as an excuse to say, 'Ignore those big problems and look at this little problem! It's new and involves stylish xenophobia!' isn't running interference for the bad guys? In what universe?
 
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If so many are voting, why can't these clowns find any of the illegal votes?
 
When was the last time you tried to find 0.05% of the population?

Well they've been trying for years and apparently it's not working.

RealID, e-verify, voter ID... and it's still not finding the thing that they "know" is there.

It's almost as if they're just giving away liberty in exchange for nothing.
 
It's really just another example of Trump's total failure to hold Democrats accountable.

He could have gone after the governors, secretaries of state, and mayors, anyone allowing non-citizens to vote
in federal elections - a federal crime - which he could have charged them all and subpoenaed the ballots as evidence.

Here he was complaining about it in 2020, that states are violating the law.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...tes-verify-citizenship-voters-federal-electi/

But he didn't actually DO anything about it.

Just like he didn't actually DO anything about all the sanctuary states and cities in violation of federal laws,
by arresting Democrat lawbreakers. They refused to cooperate, and he just folded like a cheap Walmart tent.

If he doesn't take his duty seriously, I'm not going to take him seriously, either.
 
It's really just another example of Trump's total failure to hold Democrats accountable.

He could have gone after the governors, secretaries of state, and mayors, anyone allowing non-citizens to vote in federal elections - a federal crime - which he could have charged them all and subpoenaed the ballots as evidence.

Here he was complaining about it in 2020, that states are violating the law.

https://www.politifact.com/factchec...tes-verify-citizenship-voters-federal-electi/

But he didn't actually DO anything about it.

Just like he didn't actually DO anything about all the sanctuary states and cities in violation of federal laws, by arresting Democrat lawbreakers. They refused to cooperate, and he just folded like a cheap Walmart tent.

If he doesn't take his duty seriously, I'm not going to take him seriously, either.

What about the states that have Republicans in all of those positions?

They haven't found or prevented these imaginary votes and voters either.
 
What about the states that have Republicans in all of those positions?

They haven't found or prevented these imaginary votes and voters either.

Any examples of this? Repubicans don't allow non-citizens to vote.
 
You and your buddies want to distract us from the fact that nothing has been done to curb the abuse of the mail-in voting "system", which just happens to be how they stole 2020.



Reminding people of proven problems known to have already deprived you of your Trumpy Bear, and not fixed yet, is running interference for them? Distracting people from that isn't?

Seriously. Pointing out that one state out of fifty took a stab at eliminating one of the two known, long standing problems proven to have already been at the heart of the 2020 debacle, and using that as an excuse to say, 'Ignore those big problems and look at this little problem! It's new and involves stylish xenophobia!' isn't running interference for the bad guys? In what universe?

You are the only one here telling people to ignore any part of the problem, and nobody is ignoring the other parts of the problem.
You have a long history of flying cover on this and other subjects, your cover is gone.
 
You are the only one here telling people to ignore any part of the problem, and nobody is ignoring the other parts of the problem.
You have a long history of flying cover on this and other subjects, your cover is gone.

You accused me of flying cover for the people orchestrating this, then in the next breath...

We found very many, the courts just refuse the cases.

... you fly cover for Trump, who torpedoed the whole investigation into 2020 through alleged intransigence and incompetence. There were deadlines missed and other mistakes that left courts no way to proceed with those cases.
 
Florida had an "election police force" in 2020. It was all hyped up. Out of 11 million voters they found 20 that voted illegally. This is a made up issue.
 
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