Official: Lew Rockwell Converts Naomi Wolf

[JosephTheLibertarian]

I don't pledge allegiance to ANY person, Joseph. BTW, it wasn't Rothbard's conference; it was Ron's.

oh yeah? Would you take the Articles of Confederation over the current Constitution?

I don't understand 'traditional conservative' types They want to "go back" to something that has obviously failed us, otherwise, we wouldn't be in this perdictiment lol Were you taught to love this country, or something?

 

[Truth Warrior]

No TW, libertarian-conservatives (traditional conservatives) do not have much of anything in common with the so-called "social conservatives". Social conservatives are actually really leftists, since they believe in using big government force to cram their unconstitutional agenda down everyone's throat.

They also advocate the abolishment of "victim less" crimes ( so called ), sheer anathema and heresy to the religious right agenda of cramming their big government agenda down everyone's throat.

Oops, I'm actually referring here to social libertarians, never mind.

See how mindnumbingly stupid and confusing the micro slice and dice parsing bogus concatenations gets?

 

[LibertyEagle]

oh yeah? Would you take the Articles of Confederation over the current Constitution?

I don't understand 'traditional conservative' types They want to "go back" to something that has obviously failed us, otherwise, we wouldn't be in this perdictiment lol Were you taught to love this country, or something?

Joseph, traditional conservatives want to "go back" to the Constitution and the Founder's intent.

oh yeah? Would you take the Articles of Confederation over the current Constitution?

Actually, I wouldn't be against getting to that point. However, it's my belief that we have to do this in stages. If we completely freak out everyone, we'll never get anywhere.

While a lot of us will never agree on everything, we should be able to agree on our desire to drastically reduce government. We may disagree on the extent that government should be reduced, but I would think that we could work together for quite awhile until that became a problem.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Joseph, traditional conservatives want to "go back" to the Constitution and the Founder's intent.

I assume that you wouldn't want the Articles of Confederation.

LE (Nancy?), the US government is to the states what the UN is to the US government. It's just an organization CREATED by the states.

 

[LibertyEagle]

I assume that you wouldn't want the Articles of Confederation.

See my previous post.

LE (Nancy?), the US government is to the states what the UN is to the US government. It's just an organization CREATED by the states.

That's a valid point, Joseph.

Especially at government's current level, I would most certainly agree with you. Which is one reason why I would imagine that both of us are in this movement.... so that we can slash the heck out of it.

EDIT: The federal government was largely established to protect liberty and the Constitution's primary role was to try to control government. Unfortunately, we were told to stay ever vigilant and instead we sat on our couches and became apathetic.

 

[PatriotOne]

Very interesting interview. If Naomi researches the Federal Reserve in earnest, I think she is about to have a real paradigm change and can become an A-Player for liberty. Because of all the questions she had for LR, she has obviously recognized some faults of her own by supporting the left and is trying to understand where the disconnect is. Lew led her in the right direction...the Federal Reserve. She's about to have an epithamy!

 

[LibertyEagle]

Very interesting interview. If Naomi researches the Federal Reserve in earnest, I think she is about to have a real paradigm change and can become an A-Player for liberty. Because of all the questions she had for LR, she has obviously recognized some faults of her own by supporting the left and is trying to understand where the disconnect is. Lew led her in the right direction...the Federal Reserve. She's about to have an epithamy!

I hope so. I kinda wish Lew would have talked to her about more of the HOW. Ron has talked some about that. You know, not being able to dissolve the FED overnight and how we might go about reducing their role step-by-step to the point that they COULD be abolished. Stuff like that. The same thing for a gold standard. Otherwise, people quickly run up against roadblocks and then just shut off saying... that won't work.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Joseph, traditional conservatives want to "go back" to the Constitution and the Founder's intent.


Actually, I wouldn't be against getting to that point. However, it's my belief that we have to do this in stages. If we completely freak out everyone, we'll never get anywhere.

While a lot of us will never agree on everything, we should be able to agree on our desire to drastically reduce government. We may disagree on the extent that government should be reduced, but I would think that we could work together for quite awhile until that became a problem.

The problem imo is, however, people love freebies... Has our government ever decreased since it began?

Like this lady I work with... lastnight: "guess what, joe, the government might give us another stimulus package near chrstmas time, isn't that great?"

I just sighed.

That's wealth redistribution.

Sometimes I think the only way to really make a difference is with arms. The government is obviously going to grow and grow and grow, where it ends, noone knows.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Yeah, I know Joseph. It's really disgusting how some people think. I really don't believe anyone who sucks off the government teat, should be allowed to vote. Otherwise, all they will do is vote for more wealth redistribution.

 

[Conza88]

I hope so. I kinda wish Lew would have talked to her about more of the HOW. Ron has talked some about that. You know, not being able to dissolve the FED overnight and how we might go about reducing their role step-by-step to the point that they COULD be abolished. Stuff like that. The same thing for a gold standard. Otherwise, people quickly run up against roadblocks and then just shut off saying... that won't work.

http://mises.org/story/1709

 

[LibertyEagle]

http://mises.org/story/1709

Conza, I agree that most things should be immediately slashed. Such as the Department of Education, Executive Orders, Presidential Signing Statements, etc.

Some things like the FED seem different, or am I wrong and if so, how? Ron has been asked about whether we could immediately get rid of the FED and what I remember is that he said NO. He recommended having competing currencies.

Another thing, at least to me, concerns the subject of open borders. While I agree that if we would get rid of the freebie handouts, and let's throw NAFTA in there too, that we wouldn't have a problem like we have now with the large-scale invasion of our country. But unless we can do all those things at one time, I don't think it makes a bit of sense to push open borders.

It just seems to me that philosophy is one thing. Practical application is another.

 

[PatriotOne]

I hope so. I kinda wish Lew would have talked to her about more of the HOW. Ron has talked some about that. You know, not being able to dissolve the FED overnight and how we might go about reducing their role step-by-step to the point that they COULD be abolished. Stuff like that. The same thing for a gold standard. Otherwise, people quickly run up against roadblocks and then just shut off saying... that won't work.

Problem is you have to come close to killing the host (America) of the parasite (Federal Reserve) to get rid of the disease. It leaves us very weak and vunerable to other parasites (enemies). Makes my head hurt to think how to kill the parasite safely.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Problem is you have to come close to killing the host (America) of the parasite (Federal Reserve) to get rid of the disease. It leaves us very weak and vunerable to other parasites (enemies). Makes my head hurt to think how to kill the parasite safely.

Exactly. You said it much better than I. Thanks.

 

[PatriotOne]

I'm done listening to the interview. I wish Lew Rockwell would have an epithamy now and realize that the implosion of our economy and those other countries effected is intentional and the goal is One World Order. As smart as Lew Rockewell is, he still doesn't get the big picture. He thinks it was all just a big mistake and the Federal Reserve never meant this too happen. He needs to understand "Order out of Chaos" and the The Hegelian Dialectic (Problem, Reaction, Solution) strategy they are using.

 

[werdd]

ghemminger was right, lol

 

[Conza88]

I'm done listening to the interview. I wish Lew Rockwell would have an epithamy now and realize that the implosion of our economy and those other countries effected is intentional and the goal is One World Order. As smart as Lew Rockewell is, he still doesn't get the big picture. He thinks it was all just a big mistake and the Federal Reserve never meant this too happen. He needs to understand "Order out of Chaos" and the The Hegelian Dialectic (Problem, Reaction, Solution) strategy they are using.

Oh for friggen sure!

I really do sometimes think that they know, but go with the its coincidental line... because really, all credibility would be lost essentially; not totally - but their name and brand would be completely trashed to those who are in the unknown, the sheeple - it would be a major hurdle to try over come...

And in the end that is probably the smartest thing to do... You don't need to talk about the Illuminati to fight them.

Their goal is tyranny, one world government. The anti-thesis is liberty / Freedom..

You can fight it without being seen as a conspiracy "dude".. But people like Alex Jones, serve a purpose. And they ARE needed.

Fluoride... YEAH, government mistake... it LOVES you! It wants to have healthy citizens..... YEAHHHHHHHHhhhhhh that's right.... Dumbing down of America....... he kind of gets it though; deliberate - but there are people who are behind the state... And he does mention 'the curtain' at one point

Ah well..

 

[PatriotOne]

Oh for friggen sure!

I really do sometimes think that they know, but go with the its coincidental line... because really, all credibility would be lost essentially; not totally - but their name and brand would be completely trashed to those who are in the unknown, the sheeple - it would be a major hurdle to try over come...

And in the end that is probably the smartest thing to do... You don't need to talk about the Illuminati to fight them.

Their goal is tyranny, one world government. The anti-thesis is liberty / Freedom..

You can fight it without being seen as a conspiracy "dude".. But people like Alex Jones, serve a purpose. And they ARE needed.

Fluoride... YEAH, government mistake... it LOVES you! It wants to have healthy citizens..... YEAHHHHHHHHhhhhhh that's right.... Dumbing down of America....... he kind of gets it though; deliberate - but there are people who are behind the state... And he does mention 'the curtain' at one point

Ah well..

I wonder if LR knows more than he is willing to share with his audience also. I just don't think people can get motivated until they know the whole story and how dangerous these people really are. Promoting that the Federal Reserve just made a mistake leaves room for people to think they plan on fixing their mistakes in the future instead of wiping out the middle class to create a slave/master society. Not to mention committing genocide on around 80% of the population though biowarfare using designer diseases such as AIDS, starvation, sterilization, etc. That shit wakes people up fast!

 

[USAFCapt]

great 1 hour discussion. She'll be with us for 2012.

 

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