OFFICIAL 11/9/11 ECONOMICS DEBATE FROM MICHIGAN THREAD

MSNBC's poll is not wide enough for Ron Paul's supporters...

the 30% bar is hardly bigger than the 23%...

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"I see what you did there" meme, call them out on this...

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I suspect that anyone who mentions ron paul in a positive way is likely a closet supporter, as they are likely to be banished from future shows, and thus are willing to take the risk.
 
A guy on cnbc just said "Ron Paul is growing on people"... I was like 'Say What?'. I had to double take.

Also... the Oakland University poll is disheartening. Ron lost 8% of support pre-debate to post-debate. Ughhh. Here I thought my age group got it. That we would turn a corner in generation y. In the words of Lee Corso, 'Not so fast my friend'.
 
I'm not sure if anyone has posted these yet, but I think the Intrade numbers speak for themselves about who won and who lost this debate:
Romney 70%
Gingrich 9%
Paul 7.5% (all time high)
Cain 4.2% (lowest since his surge)
Perry 4.0% (lowest since entering race)
 
Gaddafi Duck said:
Right, and my point is has this never happened to anyone else?? Have any of you had a lapse when delivering a presentation, giving a job interview, etc.?

If you answered "no", then you probably haven't done much public speaking or are just incredibly sharp. Regardless, it'll happen on more than one occasion, eventually.

Kinda sad people are getting sucked into "OMG this is a big deal!"... is it? I thought our problems were much bigger than forgetting one of the agencies you'd get rid of. It's all peanuts. Looks great on the cover of tabloids and CNBC.com, but again, I tend to think more than get emotionally involved. Then again, I guess emotions are what dictate elections, so fuck me right? :D
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You must be new to Perry...lol j/k :p

Seriously though, this isn't like an isolated incident, it's a huge gaffe in a series of escalating gaffes. I mean his own campaign advised him to stop debating because of his inability to articulate himself. Think he should get a pass on this one too?
 
Ok, voted at: thelastword.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/11/09/8726049-which-candidate-won-the-gop-debate

Ron Paul 29.6% (1,528 votes)
Mitt Romney 23.2% (1,195 votes)
Herman Cain 21.9% (1,128 votes)
Newt Gingrich 11.1% (574 votes)
Jon Huntsman 7.3% (378 votes)
Rick Perry 3.2% (166 votes)
Michele Bachmann 1.8% (95 votes)
Rick Santorum 1.8% (91 votes)
 
CNBC says that student's were polling 25% for Romney and 19% for Paul before the debate and 40% for Romney and 11% for Paul after the debate. I guess students want high priced education and lots of debt.
 
braane said:
A guy on cnbc just said "Ron Paul is growing on people"... I was like 'Say What?'. I had to double take.

Also... the Oakland University poll is disheartening. Ron lost 8% of support pre-debate to post-debate. Ughhh. Here I thought my age group got it. That we would turn a corner in generation y. In the words of Lee Corso, 'Not so fast my friend'.
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He also said "Ron Paul was right about a lot of things last time, and he's probably going to be right this time." Or something to that effect.
 
They flashed a Oakland Universiry Student poll pre debate and post. Can someone find it online?
 
Did they say a word about Ron? I was lampworking in the other room listening and think i could have missed it. Din't hear a thing.
 
anaconda said:
I think we can get more Perry supporters than anyone else. Perry's demise helps us get closer to a two person race between Mittens and Ron. Assuming Cain will implode shortly. There's just no one left. Unless Bachmann gets an unlikely resurrection. There's no time for Huntsman or Santorum. Newt is a wild card but I think he will stall at where he is.
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We just watched Perry collapse in front of our eyes. It is extremely rare to be able to watch something like that.

It may be that Cain's meeting with Kissinger worked out well for Cain, and the people who were backing Perry were satisfied with Cains answers, and Perry no longer was necessary. They were worried about Cain (very possibly they weren't paying attention to him closely, they hadn't vetted him), Kissinger asked the Bilderberg questions, Cain answered acceptably, and Cain becomes an acceptable candidate to the globalists. Perry out, Cain in.

I can't see how Perry can recover from that debate. But I don't know about a Cain implosion. What has happened with the sex stuff is that a ceiling has been placed on Cains support. Unless the sex stuff resolves itself 100% for Cain, with no ambiguity, there will be a significant number of people who will say "yeah, I get that he was smeared unfairly, but he is damaged goods now, and we want to win." We can get those people.

If "newt's people" and "cain's people" can start attacking each other, that's a good result.

Newt actually has a pretty impressive resume, and some stuff on it people did like. Speaker of the House. Contract With America.
 
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