Obama wants national ban on concealed carry

[jsgolfman]

Even in the RP camp we have people who still don't understand what liberty means.

 

[libertythor]

I will be voting for the LP or CP candidate if McCain and Obama/Hillary are the nominees for the Republicrats.

 

[webber53]

Are you serious?

Do you know what a write-in is?

Why are you letting the TV tell you your vote either belong to McCain or Obama?

SAY IT AGAIN!!

 

[SeanEdwards]

Sean - first, its going to be one of those two anyway (right?), regardless of who you vote for, one of them or Paul, or nobody.

Your vote is more meaningless going to one of the general candidates than if you were to stay home or write in your own name and not give either of them numbers. You want to avoid war with Iran and keep your arms? VOTE RON PAUL

Yes, the winner will be either the Dem or GOP nominee, and I lose either way. But there is significance in evaluating those two lose propositions, and determining which is the bigger loss for me.

As I mentioned before, since I live in California my vote really doesn't matter, and in light of that I probably will write in Paul. If I lived in a contested state however, I'd seriously have to consider which of the two potential winners was worse for me, and vote accordingly.

 

[charger]

Don't hate me for asking, but why does one need to carry a concealed firearm? I'm all for personal liberties, but that seems a bit extreme to me.

To protect yourself!
I carry every day. It is my right!

We have entered into a state of Tyranny because I fear any of the candidates that they are pushing down our throats more than any Radical Islamic Extremist.

 

[kyleAF]

I agree with Obama on this.
This country is OUT OF CONTROL in terms of shootings and general violence.
NO OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD has the level of violence we do, no first world country that is.
I'm all for it. Ban the bastards.

Mark my words. You won't be voting your way out of this one...

Without an armed populace, there's nothing standing in the way of complete control and tyranny.

And I disagree with your statement that no other country sees as much violence as we do. Even with the "no true scotsman" fallacy of "no first world country, that is".

Just remember what Hitler did... he banned and confiscated guns. The people outnumber the government ONLY AS LONG as our bullets outnumber theirs.

And banning the guns will *actually* result in confrontations with the police in some parts of this country by the militias. Do you really want homefront battles?

 

[kyleAF]

It would seem that Obama would allow those of us who are / were in the military to carry firearms.

Convenient for me...

But not for you. RP08.

 

[Dr.3D]

I agree with Obama on this.
This country is OUT OF CONTROL in terms of shootings and general violence.
NO OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD has the level of violence we do, no first world country that is.
I'm all for it. Ban the bastards.

Let me get this straight in my mind.

You are saying you would rather have all law abiding people unable to carry a firearm and let only the lawbreakers carry firearms?

Doesn't that seem a little one sided to even you?

What that would mean is, law abiding people would be defenseless against criminals who would carry firearms anyway.

Wake up! Guns don't kill people, criminals kill people. I want to be able to defend myself rather than let some punk with a gun kill me because I was not allowed to carry one.

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

Come on everyone - you've played their game for how many elections now? End it NOW, do NOT vote for the lesser of two evils - what has it EVER gotten us?

No kidding. McCain will take your vote as an endorsement of everything he stands for.

Did you guys know around 17 americans have died in Iraq this month? Anyone seen it anywhere? Anyone seen any names? Anyone wonder why? If any of you guys vote for McWar, I hope you understand the implications of that. Same with Obama. Neither will do a single freaking thing to make you more free.

Keep voting for the slightly nicer tyrant. See where it gets you. Got you, I mean.

 

[SeanEdwards]

It would seem that Obama would allow those of us who are / were in the military to carry firearms.

Convenient for me...

But not for you. RP08.

Interesting. Guess I'll be dusting off my DD-214 and laughing at all the unarmed and helpless suckers.

 

[jbuttell]

Shaun - if you honestly think people are driven to this because of easy access to guns, you're very mistaken.

In all respect, you need to refresh yourself with the necessity and right to bear arms.

It is out of control - no doubt about it- something must be done, but once we implement these gun control bans - what will you say when these shootings don't stop?

I assure you, they won't with that kind of tactic.

With that reasoning, you might as well just support the Patriot Act and other anticonstitutional efforts.

.jeremy

 

[ChickenHawk]

Obama could be the greatest gift to the limited government movement in years. If he becomes president and starts pushing his socialist authoritarian political agenda there is going to be serious blow-back. 2010 could be 1994 all over again. Those of us who support limited government need to be ready for this because if we aren't you can bet the neocons will be.

 

[Merk]

Barack Obama's security guards defend him with concealed plastic forks right?

I hate that shit. He's not willing to give up protection via firearms but he wants to demand I do? He thinks he's "special"?

The thought of him telling me I can't carry makes vomit come out of my ears.

It's called a "right". It's guaranteed to me in this little thing called the "Constitution." Maybe Obama should read it?

Molon Labe!

 

[Carole]

Since most of us could not possibly vote for either of the evils selected by the MSM, I am adament that I will write in my vote for Dr. Paul.

My vote would be pointless if cast for the MSM candidates. A major write-in campaign is our only alternative, if Dr. Paul cannot secure the nomination, which is doubtful, but still a strong effort by us to be acknowledged.

We really need to target the no-voters, too, who do not participate because they refuse to vote for either MSM candidate.

 

[SeanEdwards]

Barack Obama's security guards defend him with concealed plastic forks right?

Yeah I was wondering the same thing. I say, "Disarm everyone? OK, you go first Barrack."

 

[mikeInAZ]

To protect yourself!
I carry every day. It is my right!

We have entered into a state of Tyranny because I fear any of the candidates that they are pushing down our throats more than any Radical Islamic Extremist.

Interesting. I'm curious if anyone has ever been in a situation where their concealed weapon "protected" them.

 

[Dr.3D]

Interesting. I'm curious if anyone has ever been in a situation where their concealed weapon "protected" them.

I have to ask, if you were being chased down the street by someone with a gun, would you feel protected if you had a gun in your pocket?

A better question is, would you feel protected if you didn't have a gun in your pocket?

In one of these cases, you would at least have a chance of protecting yourself.

 

[ChickenHawk]

Interesting. I'm curious if anyone has ever been in a situation where their concealed weapon "protected" them.

I've never had been in a situation where a concealed pistol "protected" me. I have talked to people who have been in a situation like that. There have been a few high profile shootings recently where someone with a concealed pistol stopped the shooting or ended it early saving many lives. It's hard to get statistics on this sort of things because in most cases no shots are fired. For most people just the thought of being impaled with hot chunks of copper coated lead tends to alter their behavior.

 

[Merk]

I agree with Obama on this.
This country is OUT OF CONTROL in terms of shootings and general violence.
NO OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD has the level of violence we do, no first world country that is.
I'm all for it. Ban the bastards.

I carry a gun constantly, everywhere I go that I legally can. Please don't try and make decisions for me. The Constitution guarantees me the right.

When citizens carry crime rate drops.

If you choose not to take your personal protection into your own hands then please feel free to call 911 as you get carjacked.

Quotes below from:

http://power.consumercide.com/aust-uk-us-crimefigs.html

...snip The United States didn't even make the "top 10" list of industrialized nations whose citizens were victimized by crime. ...snip


...snip
In March 2000, WorldNetDaily reported that since Australia's widespread gun ban, violent crime had increased in the country.

WND reported that, although lawmakers responsible for passing the ban promised a safer country, the nation's crime statistics tell a different story:


Countrywide, homicides are up 3.2 percent.
Assaults are up 8.6 percent.
Amazingly, armed robberies have climbed nearly 45 percent.
In the Australian state of Victoria, gun homicides have climbed 300 percent.
In the 25 years before the gun bans, crime in Australia had been dropping steadily.
There has been a reported "dramatic increase" in home burglaries and assaults on the elderly.
...snip

 

[Doktor_Jeep]

Carry anyway.