You are all engaging in double-think. When you ask the government to enforce strict anti-immigration policies, you're asking for a police state. You're asking for razor wire and watch towers along the border. You're asking for every employer in the country to become an agent of the state. You're asking for armed patrols you roam the landscape, demanding that everyone produce proof of citizenship at any arbitrary time. This is not freedom. This is not liberty. This is not the American way. It sure as hell isn't capitalism! And in the long run, it's going to hurt you, both in terms of your liberty and also in terms of your prosperity. Immigration is good for the economy. If you can't understand why that is, then you don't understand free market economics.
Listen Feenix, you are extremely transparent and use extreme points to make a simple argument. The reason you do this is because your beliefs can't stand on its own. You keep waxing poetic about freedom/liberty etc... yet the very nature of your argument and support will bring about unprecedented police-state and yielding of liberty. I pointed out that all the states with high illegal immigration, are moving to an extreme left position - high taxes, high crime, lower educationatl standards and more regulation/control. You are dead wrong in your assumptions.
You can't have "lax" or "sorta" law abiding. You either have enforcement or you dno't. "Strict" enforcement means what? 100% following the law? Stop with your shennanigans. Nothing, let me repeat, NOTHING of good has come from such an extreme flow of immigrants into a country. Then because of our ridiculous laws, chain migration - citizenship to those born etc.... You might find living in a fantasy world which doesn't exist but everything else does, a fond notion. I don't.
Unchecked immigration, out of control welfare fraud, overburdening schools / hospitals/ social services and me footing the bill is NOT liberty, it is NOT the american way.
Controlled and reasonable immigration is good for the economy. But we don't have that, and you know it. You are just a leftist using leftist propaganda to ensure your argument.
Lets ask you a question. And lets see how it fits into your landscape of thought.
We have upwards of 20+million illegal immigrants. According to you, this is good and healthy for the economy. Now, lets say we legalize them and allow thru chain migration, tens of millions more. Now, this is NOT gonna stop illegal immigration, this will just encourage more. So, in lets say - 10 years... How do you think these citizens will vote? And do you think that political climate that will come about will be more or less freedom stealing? Do you think the welfare environment will still exist?
So, in reality, its your propaganda and open border philosophy that will actually bring about the fastest and surest liberty stealing & freedom destroying agenda. And coincidently, its the same agenda that is being followed by the corrupt Obama admin. and the previous Bush admin. Coincidence?
. The point is, even if we shared a border with China, China could amass its army along that border, and we would not sleep any better just because they haven't come here "illegally".
