Obama releases birth certificate!

[yoshimaroka]

I don't think it's relevant:



Seems like good ol George would fall under the "Citizen at the time of the Adoption" section....

Tangent and a rhetorical:
How did the Constitution all of a sudden apply to everyone in the geographical area known as America at the time of Adoption?
Just pointing out the absurd notion of a Constitution and any institutional form of government.

 

[dude58677]

People were demanding that WMD's were not proven and Bush laughed it off. He finally showed pictures of the WMD's in Iraq... or did he? It turned out the pictures that Colin Powell showed were fake.

 

[mello]

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[erowe1]

People were demanding that WMD's were not proven and Bush laughed it off. He finally showed pictures of the WMD's in Iraq... or did he? It turned out the pictures that Colin Powell showed were fake.

IIRC Powell didn't show fake pictures of WMDs, but real pictures of other things that experts wrongly claimed were evidence for the existence of WMDs.

 

[Xavi1990]

Now Trump wants his college records released. Looks like he's given up on the birth thing now.

 

[tpreitzel]

Frankly, Obama is the only one playing games. The states will likely proceed with their legislation requiring proof of natural-born citizenship which should include not only the candidate, but both parents as well being born in one of the 50 states. The states would be wise to ignore the 14th amendment ...

Why didn't the Obama produce his alleged birth certificate years ago? Because, HE is the one playing games....

 

[reillym]

Frankly, Obama is the only one playing games. The states will likely proceed with their legislation requiring proof of natural-born citizenship which should include not only the candidate, but both parents as well being born in one of the 50 states. The states would be wise to ignore the 14th amendment ...

Why didn't the Obama produce his alleged birth certificate years ago? Because, HE is the one playing games....

He didn't produce it because it was a non-issue that was caused by racist bigots trying to attack him for something.

 

[tpreitzel]

He didn't produce it because it was a non-issue that was caused by racist bigots trying to attack him for something.

Nonsense, but I'm quite sure that Obama would second your assertion. Natural-born citizenship is ALWAYS an issue and SHOULD be for POTUS. Even MCcain wasn't technically qualified to be POTUS if the PROPER common-law definition of natural-born citizenship was still the standard for POTUS.

 

[ctiger2]

 

[Vessol]

This birther shit is the most useless and pointless debate.

 

[idirtify]

No evidence will ever be good enough for birthers, just like 9/11 truthers and moon landing deniers. It's one thing to question official views and conventional history, but it needs to be done objectively. Not having definitive proof that Obama was born in the United States does not indicate or prove that he was not born in the United States.

In the meantime I'll focus my efforts combating issues of governance.

This is not an issue of the people proving the president’s birth details. It’s an issue of the president’s missing and questionable details. Since the issue is of required qualifications for the job, the burden is not on the employers (us) to disprove the qualifications. The burden is on the employee (Obama) to provide/prove them. As another commenter on another forum said: It is good to question these things. Trying to get to the bottom of them is the role of the responsible citizen. To blindly ignore the problem and/or criticize the process of confronting it is not the right move.

Focus your efforts as you wish, but your effort at criticism here is unwarranted.

 

[Bruno]

From the smoking gun below.

Additionally, I wonder why Stanley is in written in parenthesis in a weird way, and also why on the upper- left hand side the previous page is hand written and Obama's was typed. There are are also hand-written letters and numbers on sections 7g, 9, 11, 12a, 12b, 14, and 16. Maybe that is normal, I don't know.

The font also seems so computer generated. Below it says it is possibly pulled from an abstract from records on file. In other words, folks, this still isn't the original.

And why isn't anyone asking why the Governor of Hawaii could not find it and said he didn't think it existed, yet it can be so quickly "copied"?

This birth certificate raises more questions than it answers.


http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/barack-obama/birth-obama-certer-movement-098513

• If the original document was in a bound volume (as reflected by the curvature of the left hand side of the certificate), how can the green patterned background of the document's safety paper be so seamless?

• Why, if Obama was born on August 4, 1961, was the “Date Accepted by Local Reg.” four days later on August 8, 1961?

• What is the significance of the smudges in the box containing the name of the reported attendant?

• David A. Sinclair, the M.D. who purportedly signed the document, died nearly eight years ago at age 81. So he is conveniently unavailable to answer questions about Obama’s reported birth.

• In the “This Birth” box there are two mysterious Xs above “Twin” and “Triplet.” Is there a sibling or two unaccounted for?

• What is the significance of the mysterious numbers, seen vertically, on the document’s right side?

• Finally, the “Signature of Local Registrar” in box 21 may be a desperate attempt at establishing the document’s Hawaiian authenticity.* Note to forgers: It is spelled “Ukulele.”



http://i.cdn.turner.com/dr/teg/tsg/release/sites/default/files/assets/obamabirthcetgrab.jpg

 

[stefank]

"go home you're fired go play with donald trump"

 

[mport1]

I don't care where Obama or anybody was born. Nobody has the authority to rule over people against their consent.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Birthers not convinced... shocker.

I am convinced if Doc Brown came in a time machine and took these people to Hawaii the day Obama was born and they sat in the delivery room and saw everything live they would still say it was a fake.

The Science Of Why We Don't Believe In Science

 

[mport1]

Birthers not convinced... shocker.

I am convinced if Doc Brown came in a time machine and took these people to Hawaii the day Obama was born and they sat in the delivery room and saw everything live they would still say it was a fake.

The Science Of Why We Don't Believe In Science

God, I hate conspiracy theories. No amount of evidence can ever convince the believers that they are wrong. They will claim that you are brainwashed, sheep, close minded, whatever, but they are the ones who are close minded and stubborn about hearing the other side.

 

[Bruno]

Birthers not convinced... shocker.

BT adding nothing to the discussion....shocker.

Why don't you address some of the dozen or so issues with the copied document that people legitimately question?

 

[kahless]

"go home you're fired go play with donald trump"

I never watched that show but needed a good laugh tonight. I cannot believe people really buy into what that raving lunatic is selling. He either needs medication or is an excellent actor.

 

[erowe1]

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[Bruno]

"I just checked the official web site for Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital and according to the information there, the name of the hospital at the time of his birth should have been Kauikeolani Children's Hospital. According to the web site the name didn't change to Kapiolani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital until Kauikeolani Children's Hospital merged with Kapi‘olani Maternity Home in 1978. So how could his official long form birth certificate that was generated in 1961 have the name of the hospital that wasn't created until 1978?"