Obama releases birth certificate!

[jack555]

All I can see are pictures of a certificate of live birth not birth certificate?right?opinions?

 

[Krugerrand]

How could he be born the day before this baby, and yet, his BC number is higher than both twins born a day later? The other twin was one number higher.

http://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/twinlivebirth.jpg

Birth certificates have to be requested. They would be processed in the order they are requested ... not re-shuffled based on the order of birth. If the numbers are that close, I would expect that to support the legitimacy of the BC.

EDIT: if you want to question something ... and it would depend on who, who and when these get filled in ... but you could ask why Age of mother, Race of Father, Kind of business, Race of Mother are all centered on Lord Barry's but on the other are Left Justified. .... but that could very easily mean absolutely nothing.

The only way I could see this as a fake would be if they found somebody that was born in those same couple of days that died and re-sued their number. Anything else could too easily be discovered. I won't be holding my breath that that's what's happened.

 

[Sarge]

I suggest BC's are numbered and recorded in the order babies are born. Not when one is requested. Date and time of birth gets the next number.

BO has the same heading on his BC.

 

[Krugerrand]

I suggest BC's are numbered and recorded in the order babies are born. Not when one is requested. Date and time of birth gets the next number.

BO has the same heading on his BC.

What happens if you request a BC for your child after one has been already issued to somebody born after your child?

 

[erowe1]

I suggest BC's are numbered and recorded in the order babies are born. Not when one is requested.

How do you suppose that would work? Do you think that when someone requests a BC they deliberately skip a bunch of numbers in case they need to fill them in later with someone else who turns out to have been born earlier?

 

[Daamien]

No evidence will ever be good enough for birthers, just like 9/11 truthers and moon landing deniers. It's one thing to question official views and conventional history, but it needs to be done objectively. Not having definitive proof that Obama was born in the United States does not indicate or prove that he was not born in the United States.

In the meantime I'll focus my efforts combating issues of governance.

 

[Sarge]

It looks like many questions will be argued shortly. The Social Security numbers alone should be interesting.

http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...-eligibility-to-be-heard-by-9th-circuit-court

 

[shocker315]

Ok , I haven’t followed all the particulars of this story, since I believe its largely a waste of time.

But I'm curious....I don't understand why it took two years to "release" this particular copy of the BC (original copy with sigs). I mean, shouldn’t the Hawaii Vital Records office have had this copy in their possession all this time? If so...why couldn't anybody (mainly the press or investigators) simply get this original copy before? Why is it now being "disclosed and released" to the media for all to see? This implies that it was undisclosed and not released to the public prior to today? If this is true...why?

Somebody want explain that to me?

 

[Sarge]

Interesting comments. Likely my last post on this subject. I know so many are in a hurry to get onto other bigger issues and believe it is all a waste of time.

What about this persons time. I wonder how this man feels sitting in jail when BO wouldn't release his BC as a defense request.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292213

 

[Zap!]

Signed four days after his birth, just in time for the move to the states...

 

[libertarian4321]

I think it's wrong to claim the birthers are necessarily racist.

I'm sure some of them are just idiots.

I knew, however, that even coming up with the "long form" wouldn't be enough for the conspiracy theorists.

They'll just keep on going with their BS- claiming that some smudge on the document, or a fleck of dust on the corner is "irrefutable proof" that Obama is Kenyan or Indonesian or Martian or something.

 

[amonasro]

This is actually a brilliant political move.

Obama sits on the birth certificate, all the while driving tea partiers and birthers absolutely through the roof. This paints them as crazy conspiracy nuts and helps to drive negative energy and attention away from his low poll numbers. Now that the book is #1 on Amazon and Trump's single-issue campaign is suddenly headline numero uno, everything reaches critical mass. If Obama waits any longer, the tide will start to turn and Trump will gain more ground, as will the book's influence on popular opinion and the possibility of more books and more Trumps. In one fell swoop, Obama releases the certificate, destroys Trump's momentum and discredits the entire birther movement. Brilliant politics. Obama may be a lot of things, but he is an excellent politician we must not underestimate EVER.

 

[libertarian4321]

Interesting comments. Likely my last post on this subject. I know so many are in a hurry to get onto other bigger issues and believe it is all a waste of time.

What about this persons time. I wonder how this man feels sitting in jail when BO wouldn't release his BC as a defense request.

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=292213

Trying to use reason with "birthers" is like trying to reason with a rabid dog- it just won't work.

Hopefully, the rational folks among us can focus on important issues. You know, little things like getting Ron Paul elected rather than worrying about nutty conspiracy theories about why Obama is a Kenyan Indonesian atheist secret Muslim with a Christian pastor problem.

Maybe, just maybe, we should focus on issues that matter, like the budge deficit, the health care mess, the 3 wars, excessive government regulation, etc.

 

[Stary Hickory]

This is actually a brilliant political move.

Obama sits on the birth certificate, all the while driving tea partiers and birthers absolutely through the roof. This paints them as crazy conspiracy nuts and helps to drive negative energy and attention away from his low poll numbers. Now that the book is #1 on Amazon and Trump's single-issue campaign is suddenly headline numero uno, everything reaches critical mass. If Obama waits any longer, the tide will start to turn and Trump will gain more ground, as will the book's influence on popular opinion and the possibility of more books and more Trumps. In one fell swoop, Obama releases the certificate, destroys Trump's momentum and discredits the entire birther movement. Brilliant politics. Obama may be a lot of things, but he is an excellent politician we must not underestimate EVER.

LOL this is utterly insane. It was no calculating political move that made Obama release this NOW....lol....it was he was taking a political beating because of growing doubt and fear of Corsi's book. In the end he released this not out of respect for the American public but out of fear of political loss....if the issue is forgotten what will be remembered is how he arrogantly dodge the issue, while doubt grew, how he paid millions to keep people from seeing a simple piece of paper. How he allowed military service members to go to prison over this...without intervening or settling the matter.

The race card is dead already, this cannot revive that. What will be the issue 2012? The faltering economy, rising prices, high unemployment and a weird ass president who harbors disdain and disrespect for a very very large portion of America.

 

[Don Lapre]

Common sense 101.

If this is... it, and it's this simple, then why on earth would one put up many multiple lawsuit defenses to avoid showing it?


Oh, because this isn't... it.

Yw.


This is Barry's pre-emptive shot at desperately trying to slide away from the HUGE shitstorm that is about to come with the release of the Corsi book.

Buckle your seatbelts.

Shit flies shortly.

 

[libertarian4321]

Common sense 101.

I think the terms "sense" and "birther" are mutually exclusive.

 

[pcosmar]

As I said,,

Meh,,

At least it is a distraction that Dr. Paul won't have to deal with. and he can focus on dismembering him on his record.

But I would positively get the giggles if this turned out to be another forgery.

 

[Depressed Liberator]

LOL this is utterly insane. It was no calculating political move that made Obama release this NOW....lol....it was he was taking a political beating because of growing doubt and fear of Corsi's book. In the end he released this not out of respect for the American public but out of fear of political loss....if the issue is forgotten what will be remembered is how he arrogantly dodge the issue, while doubt grew, how he paid millions to keep people from seeing a simple piece of paper. How he allowed military service members to go to prison over this...without intervening or settling the matter.

The race card is dead already, this cannot revive that. What will be the issue 2012? The faltering economy, rising prices, high unemployment and a weird ass president who harbors disdain and disrespect for a very very large portion of America.

That guy's book?

Listen, we all know well that a book that becomes the best seller does not mean shit to most Americans. A good minority of people have always questioned Obama's citizenship, and those are the same people that never liked him. The people who do question his birth, however, were seen as idiotic and insane by independents and just about anyone else, and a lot of Republicans had to take the blame for it or even be given the "birther" title if they didn't do anything about their base. Again, there was no real pressure whatsoever for Obama to release this. He just saw a good opportunity to release the more detailed birth certificate that would play in his political interests, which are to make all birthers look even more dumb and idiotic (especially since the one he released today will still likely not be enough for most birthers, and as I have said on this message board many times, nothing will be enough), and many Republicans will have to deal with the association with the idiots.

 

[devil21]

I guess that's put to rest. Glad it's not going to be an issue anymore and we can get back to fighting stuff like bombing foreign countries that didn't do anything to us.

Having said that, I hope those in this thread that are chiding others realize how simple it would be to fake that birth certificate. The thing is, I have yet to see any independent sources come forward to say that they saw the BC previously. Everyone that claims they saw it are all government employees, and even friends of Obama's family.

 

[fisharmor]

I don't know if anyone else did the math, but Obama's father was a statutory rapist.