NY middle school sex ed class gone wild

[dannno]

I can't figure out anymore if being called a slut is supposed to be a good or bad thing. I thought the liberals were trying to use it as an "empowering" title for a while there...so when the phrase "slut shaming" came out--I just got more confused.

It was never an empowering title, but they wanted women to feel empowered to be able to go out and be promiscuous if that is what they desired without getting shamed by society for it while their male counterparts are applauded.

They aren't afraid to use the word in educating people, but when they say slut shaming they mean to discourage the shaming of women who are promiscuous and then will use that time to educate people not to use the word slut in their interpersonal lives.

Beyond that, I can't imagine the mindset of the "teacher" who sat down and came up with this curriculum, then carried it out using middle schoolers.

It was college students that they brought in.

 

[dannno]

*sigh* I really wish this whole stigma of a woman being "unclean" during menstruation would just... die.

Ya well I don't mind having sex with my gf when she's on her period. I'm kinda curious how exactly they tortured them.

 

[asurfaholic]

So what is the proper term for a girl who wears very revealing clothes and is obviously into different people all the time?

If slut is offensive to the sluts, how can I possibly describe a slut?

 

[dannno]

So what is the proper term for a girl who wears very revealing clothes and is obviously into different people all the time?

If slut is offensive to the sluts, how can I possibly describe a slut?

Sexy, promiscuous, generous....

 

[asurfaholic]

Sexy, promiscuous, generous....

Ok that works for me, a mid 20s dude.

But what's wrong with slut? You said 3 words. I want 1.



Btw, I'm not really being serious. This is not an issue i will lose sleep over

 

[dannno]

Ok that works for me, a mid 20s dude.

But what's wrong with slut? You said 3 words. I want 1.



Btw, I'm not really being serious. This is not an issue i will lose sleep over

I think it's not just the fact that it became a derogatory word, but also that it just sounds bad. Like 'you use the slit in your vagina so much you're a slut' or something?

But ya the three words I used, I think, would describe various types of 'sluts' more accurately.

Some girls are just really sexy and they have strong sex drives and they've gotten a lot of sexual attention their whole lives, they've learned to deal with it and adjust to it well and so they are just straight sexy and have a lot of sex and don't necessarily want to be pinned down to one guy, or haven't found him yet.

Then there are girls who are simply promiscuous, they just enjoy sex and may be doing it for slightly more selfish reasons, not that there is necessarily anything wrong with that.

Then there are girls who just enjoy giving guys sexual attention and like being generous with their sexuality. They do it more for the reaction they get and the creation of positive energy.

 

[I<3Liberty]

I just feel like safe sex (and health practices in general), need to be taught off a solid moral framework. They'd be better off teaching virtue ethics and empowering students to do the pondering themselves. Let the parents educate as they wish and keep in mind that this is the 21st century... most tween and teens have already had a chat with "Uncle Google." The internet has some great safe sex guides and information on STDs and all that. It's also a lot less awkward than hearing it from a teacher or parent. Not sure about everyone else, but it's still such a taboo topic where I grew up.

 

[bolil]

PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFT.

Anyone that likes to play spot a slut can spot an asshole in the nearest mirror. Let us not stop at "pansexual" as described by Danno. Lets bring it full circle. Pederasts? Natural. Dog fuckers? Natural. Child fuckers? Natural. Vengeance? Natural. Pardonez moi, si vous plait, parce que Je n'ai jamias pas de pateince pour un pervert.

 

[asurfaholic]

I think it's not just the fact that it became a derogatory word, but also that it just sounds bad. Like 'you use the slit in your vagina so much you're a slut' or something?

But ya the three words I used, I think, would describe various types of 'sluts' more accurately.

Some girls are just really sexy and they have strong sex drives and they've gotten a lot of sexual attention their whole lives, they've learned to deal with it and adjust to it well and so they are just straight sexy and have a lot of sex and don't necessarily want to be pinned down to one guy, or haven't found him yet.

Then there are girls who are simply promiscuous, they just enjoy sex and may be doing it for slightly more selfish reasons, not that there is necessarily anything wrong with that.

Then there are girls who just enjoy giving guys sexual attention and like being generous with their sexuality. They do it more for the reaction they get and the creation of positive energy.

I owe you a big + rep for this.

 

[KrokHead]

Whats next? legalize Child porn? adult porn to kids?

Hey a lot of people on this message board support that!

The whole throwing sex sex sex in people's faces hypersexualizes our culture. Parents should just grow a pair and teach their kids about sex.

"If you get pregnant, there's the door."

"You get some chick pregnant, there's the door."

 

[MisfitToy]

One of the happiest days of my life was when I graduated HS. I didn't dislike the classes or the teachers (I graduated with honors), it's that I couldn't stand the bs of social conformity that only children subject themselves and each other over the most irrelevant of things. You had to worry about a full spectrum of stupid shit that resulted in life-changing episodes, like trying to explain to the parents why I needed "these" jeans, that as a full fledged adult I can't believe I wasted a worry about.
Sex Ed in my school (my parents had to sign a consent for it) consisted of body mechanics, reproduction, and the evils of STDs. No different then math, science, or english classes, it in no way attempted to manipulate your personal application of the information (although the std portion had a scare aspect to it). Kids are socially impressionable and my main objective to the exercise presented here is the sense of social engineering. It goes beyond teaching and is defining how to apply knowledge, and that is engineering which is the fundamental basis of parenting.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Actually, 14 seems like about the right age for this sort of thing, but I have a problem w/ the progressive agenda going on here.

As to everyone bashing letting "college students" near the kids, it's called student teaching. If you are an education major, you have to do hundreds of hours of this. In most schools in the US, if you do not walk, talk and cluck the progressive line, you will never graduate. Your teachers will find a reason to fail you!

-t

 

[Nirvikalpa]

So what is the proper term for a girl who wears very revealing clothes and is obviously into different people all the time?

If slut is offensive to the sluts, how can I possibly describe a slut?

A human controlling her own destiny?

 

[devil21]

Meanwhile, a 2nd grade teacher is suspended for doing a class on gardening and having the audacity to bring "weapons of the garden" into the classroom.

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/teacher-suspended-for-showing-gardening-tools-to-class/

Doug Bartlett, a veteran teacher with an upstanding record of 17 years, has filed a lawsuit against the school district of Chicago for suspending him without pay after giving a lesson on gardening tools to his second grade students.

The incident took place on August 8, 2011 at Washington Irving Elementary School.

Mr. Bartlett recently filed suit on April 17, 2013 saying that he suffered humiliation and embarrassment as a result of his reprimand.

The “hazardous” tools in question were pliers, screwdrivers and wrenches that only the teacher handled. The tools were kept in a locked toolbox high on a shelf out of reach before and after the gardening lesson.

The district says that Mr. Bartlett exhibited negligence in supervising the children and for “possessing, carrying, storing, or using a weapon”. He was subsequently suspended without pay for 4 days.

Up is down, inside is outside, black is white and a dog is a cat. WTF is going on??

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Meanwhile, a 2nd grade teacher is suspended for doing a class on gardening and having the audacity to bring "weapons of the garden" into the classroom.

http://www.thehealthyhomeeconomist.com/teacher-suspended-for-showing-gardening-tools-to-class/



Up is down, inside is outside, black is white and a dog is a cat. WTF is going on??

Welcome to 1984, comrade.

 

[dannno]

A human controlling her own destiny?

Have you checked out the HBO show Girls yet?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls_(TV_series)

 

[KurtBoyer25L]

Sounds more chill than the middle school I went to, that's for sure.

It's very sex-negative & theocratic to be paranoid about this stuff. If sex is THAT evil for kids, it's gotta be partially evil for adults too, so we should all stop doing it and thus end the human race if we wanna be happy, no?

 

[KurtBoyer25L]

Have you checked out the HBO show Girls yet?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girls_(TV_series)

I'm not sure what is has to do with sex education for tweens (came to this thread late), but I do like the show.

 

[Nobexliberty]

Okay i have to revive this old thread.
In the 18th century sex outside marrige was a horrible thing to happen, yes sex outside marrige happened but it was engaged couples who did it.
In some cities sex outside marrige was very common but most people lived in the puritarian rural areas.Until the 1920s nothing changhed as the roaring 20s saw some increase in sex outside marrige but it went back to the puritarian past as teh gerat depression happened. Then in the late forties till mid sixties sex outside marrige was not really shunned if they were a couple who were ready to raise a child.

But then in the mid sixties sex outside marrige or couples was not only acceptable but expected in society. The common std's could be cured with some antibiotica and the pill for unmarried people made it riskfree. But all the sex caused herpes and aids outbreaks who made society afraid more causes of sex. Then became condoms popular and safe sex was enngoured. It started as letting couples have some fun in the 50s and now we are a moral breakdown.

Same with clothes, before 1920s you had to dress modestly. Then it was allowed to reveal more until the depression set in.After world war 2 women wore a little less to atract soldiers coming home but modest enough not to be seen as whores.It became normal to be a little more revealing with your clothing untill the mid sixties.
Then with the big sexual revolution happend and loose clothing became acceptable for adults. Then it spread to kids and now we have middle school and high school girls dressing as whores.

 

[Tinnuhana]

Sex Ed in my school (my parents had to sign a consent for it) consisted of body mechanics, reproduction, and the evils of STDs. No different then math, science, or english classes, it in no way attempted to manipulate your personal application of the information (although the std portion had a scare aspect to it). Kids are socially impressionable and my main objective to the exercise presented here is the sense of social engineering. It goes beyond teaching and is defining how to apply knowledge, and that is engineering which is the fundamental basis of parenting.

When teaching health to 8th graders several years ago, I had to do a "sex ed" unit. I sent the parents a letter saying what would be covered each day, along with a list of any special speakers. Parents could choose to opt out of one or more parts.
And yet, one parent still called admin to complain about me teaching their daughter "how to get pregnant" because a nurse from family advocacy came to class with a couple of empathy bellies. When asked about this, I replied, "That's funny. The most common remark I get from girls following wearing one of those for 10 minutes is, 'I'm adopting!'" (After spending just several minutes picking markers up off the floor, trying to lie down comfortably, and other things their mothers had to endure when they were pregnant, they understood why a person should be full-grown at the very least before becoming pregnant. No moralizing; just the facts.)
Most of the boys who tried the empathy belly just wanted to go to the bathroom after removing it since it simulated the pressure a baby puts on the bladder.