NY middle school sex ed class gone wild

[jclay2]

That is a complete crock of shit, not everybody can take their kids out of public schools. Actually, FUCK YOU. This shit has no business being in school curriculum.

Yeah I agree. And when did we sign on to pay for this? Seems like it was forced onto most of us?

 

[Origanalist]

I don't think it is pedo-ish to have a good solid long-term memories of your adolescence and how you may have felt about things back then.

The thing is not everybody is ready at 15.. but some are not only ready, but there is nothing you can do to stop them.

There is a delicate balance between not making kids feel like they aren't normal if they feel like they want to wait and also not being unrealistic about the fact that people historically do breed at that age and the desire to breed for some is going to overwhelm most anything else. Then there's everything in between.

I think what braane was saying is probably accurate about most inner-city and suburban kids, the fact is other than possibly whatever they were trying to do with the whole lesbian kissing thing, most of the rest was probably no worse than the things they'd be hearing otherwise from their peers about sex. In fact it very well may be better than what they hear from their peers about some of those things.

Right, what they need is a "mature" voice to instruct them and "guide" them. Right danno?

 

[Origanalist]

Yeah I agree. And when did we sign on to pay for this? Seems like it was forced onto most of us?

No, it doesn't seem like. It was.

 

[jclay2]

Right, what they need is a "mature" voice to instruct them and "guide" them. Right danno?

lolz.... that was effing hilarious.

 

[WhistlinDave]

I have a couple thoughts as well. I don't think it's OK for them to require any student to kiss another student, whether girl on girl, boy on girl, or pansexual on genderqueer. If it was optional for the students, and if the parents had known of the course content and given an opportunity to "opt out" their kids, then I wouldn't see anything wrong with it.

Here in California we parents do have the option to opt our kids out of any kind of sex ed. I think I've heard that New York has a similar law; I think something like 36 states now have the ability for parents to opt out. (All 50 should, but that's another story.) So if these parents didn't opt out, and now they're upset, they might only have themselves to blame. (I admit I'm not 100% sure the laws in NY though. Could be wrong.)

Lastly, I have to say, the whole pansexual thing is highly overrated. I tried it once and it was horrible. In retrospect I think I shouldn't have drained the bacon grease first. Way too dry.

 

[bolil]

Right, what they need is a "mature" voice to instruct them and "guide" them. Right danno?

Don't usually trumpet this, but I am outta rep for you. What in the shit is pansexual? Sexual attraction to everything? bestiality?

On another note

Why would anyone bring an innocent life into this, and I mean this, SHIT.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Here, let me throw some cold water on that whole lesbian kissing thing:

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[SpicyTurkey]

Lastly, I have to say, the whole pansexual thing is highly overrated. I tried it once and it was horrible. In retrospect I think I shouldn't have drained the bacon grease first. Way too dry.

I watch a lot of porn, and I have no idea what you've just said. I know it's meant to be joke, but I still don't quite understand.
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[Antischism]

What exactly is a "lesbian kiss"? Peck on the Lips? Full-blown making out? I'm also unclear about the "slut" thing. What exactly do they mean by "spotting young sluts"? That's the objectionable stuff in my opinion.

The rest seems about right, and I have no problem with kids learning about different terms or realizing that sex does happen at a young age. As long as they're encouraging safe sex and the use of protection to these kids and not trying to encourage them to be promiscuous 14-year-olds, it's all good. No amount of telling teens that sex at a young age can lead to unfavorable circumstances is going to stop them, so the next best option is to educate them on safety measures. That's not to say that they shouldn't be warned, but there's no use in trying to beat it into them.

 

[V3n]

And when truancy, or contributing to, is a criminal offense? Role playing is fantastic. Now why don't you assume the role of a 14 year old girl being told, by an authority figures, to lip wrestle Sally. Sounds appropriate to you?

From what I can tell from the article they were being asked to ask for a kiss, not to actually do it.

Now you assume the role of a homosexual who's been bullied and told their entire life that what they instinctively desire is wrong, and see how uncomfortable it is for you to ask the same. Then maybe you'll understand how difficult life is for them, and why this type of role-play could help you understand.

 

[Warrior_of_Freedom]

wtf whats next, having the kids have gay sex in school. Why won't liberals stop until everyone is fucking gay? Tolerance is one thing, fucking pushing a homosexual agenda is another. All pansexual means is that someone is so horny they'll fuck anything.

 

[bolil]

From what I can tell from the article they were being asked to ask for a kiss, not to actually do it.

Now you assume the role of a homosexual who's been bullied and told their entire life that what they instinctively desire is wrong, and see how uncomfortable it is for you to ask the same. Then maybe you'll understand how difficult life is for them, and why this type of role-play could help you understand.

Okay, and when the cops 'ask' you to assume the position, and you don't... what usually happens? Homosexuals don't need your pity, they don't need you as an advocate, and they certainly don't need the flack they will catch for being associated with shit like this. Then maybe I will understand, shaking my FUCKING head. Do you always assume? Help me understand... you know what, fuck off. How about the 'straight' kids, wouldn't such an exercise affect their lives?

 

[V3n]

That is a complete crock of shit, not everybody can take their kids out of public schools. Actually, FUCK YOU. This shit has no business being in school curriculum.

Understanding people with different sexual desires has no business in school curriculum?
Teaching young ladies how not to project themselves as "young sluts" has no business in school curriculum?
Or being honest about teen pregnancy rates has no business in school curriculum?

I'm not sure to which you are referring. Before we get on bad terms, could you please clarify?

 

[bolil]

Understanding people with different sexual desires has no business in school curriculum?
Teaching young ladies how not to project themselves as "young sluts" has no business in school curriculum?
Or being honest about teen pregnancy rates has no business in school curriculum?

I'm not sure to which you are referring. Before we get on bad terms, could you please clarify?

Since when is anyones sexual preference or desires anyone's business? Some young 'ladies' will be sluts, others won't. Some young men will be pricks, others wont. Again, what business is it of yours or anyones? Honest about teen pregnancy rates? If my nonexistent daughter gets pregnant, it is neither your business nor her peers, nor the governments, nor the schools after all she is a person, not a statistic. Her business, and the fathers.

To spare you the interthreat, consider me and you on bad terms.

 

[WhistlinDave]

I watch a lot of porn, and I have no idea what you've just said. I know it's meant to be joke, but I still don't quite understand.
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It was totally a joke. Pansexual has nothing to do with cookware. (At least I don't think it does.) I think it's kind of like bisexual only they'll literally screw just about anybody. Transsexual, woman, man, pretty, ugly, dwarf, deformed, redhead, fat, skinny, albino, big moles on their face with hair growing out of them, whatever, none of that matters to a pansexual, they'll do 'em all. I might have the definition wrong, this is just what I've heard.

 

[WhistlinDave]

To be honest I didn't read the article, but is it taking the "young sluts" exercise out of context? It says it's an "anti-bullying" thing which leads me to believe maybe the point of the exercise was to stop the boys and say, "None of these girls should ever be called sluts. You can't tell by looking at someone and even if you could, that term is demeaning and hurtful" Or something along those lines. That's my guess, anyway.

 

[V3n]

First of all - nobody seems to know what "pansexual" means, so I went to the only logical source, Urban Dictionary.

1. pansexual

1. Adjective: A group which is open to members of all sexual orientations or gender identities including straight, gay, lesbian, bisexual, transexual, or transvestite.

2. Noun: A person who is sexually interested in other people regardless of gender including males, females, transexuals, tansvestites, gender benders, hermaphrodites, intersexuals, androgenous people, and those with sex-chromosome anomaly such as klinefelter syndrome or turner syndrome.

3. Noun: A person who is a member of a pansexual group or a person who associates with people of all sexual orientations but is not necessarily interested in sex with people of all sexes or genders though ...
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by Faustopheles Apr 14, 2004 add a video

2. pansexual

loving a person for WHO they are and not what they are
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wishes to be compatable through mind.

true love
"I love YOU for who you are."

loving a person for WHO they are and not what they are - sounds beautiful, I wish I were taught this in school.

 

[Ranger29860]

We can not be getting the full story here.

 

[V3n]

Since when is anyones sexual preference or desires anyone's business? Some young 'ladies' will be sluts, others won't. Some young men will be pricks, others wont. Again, what business is it of yours or anyones? Honest about teen pregnancy rates? If my nonexistent daughter gets pregnant, it is neither your business nor her peers, nor the governments, nor the schools after all she is a person, not a statistic. Her business, and the fathers.

To spare you the interthreat, consider me and you on bad terms.

None of this is anyone's business but their own self's, but understanding one-another should be everyone's business. And I don't consider us on bad terms, despite your profanity against me. I still think you're cool.

 

[Origanalist]

Understanding people with different sexual desires has no business in school curriculum?
Teaching young ladies how not to project themselves as "young sluts" has no business in school curriculum?
Or being honest about teen pregnancy rates has no business in school curriculum?

I'm not sure to which you are referring. Before we get on bad terms, could you please clarify?

Gladly. Morality has no place in public schools. (why does that word, school, seem totally wrong?)

It's not up to the schools- gubmint to enter that arena.