Not Happy with Iowa Infomercial...

Sorry liberals, Ron Paul is a Republican.

You can go vote for a democrat if you want but don't come crying here when we are still in Iraq 10 years from now.

Why does this strike me as rather odd? It was the Republicans who got us into this war. Or, did you forget?

By the way, I am a registered Republican and have been, since my very first vote for Ronald Reagan.
 
Yeah, Ron Paul is a conservative, but he is also one of the few honest men that can attract people from all walks of life.
 
Why do I keep seeing threads that mention pro choice men who makes the women's right to choose abortion a big issue for themselves. I don't get it. I guess its not a Southern thing.
 
I'm pro-choice but I support this infomercial. You can't agree with every politician on every issue and I think educated pro-choice RP supporters can look beyond this issue - as so many college kids who support RP do.

That being said, it is all about the target audience. This infomercial is great for Iowa Republicans. In New Hampshire, I'd downplay the pro-life part and put it at the end if at all. Depends on who you are targeting.

The great thing is RP has big tent and all are welcome - even pro-choice Democrats if they can look beyond that issue and realize that there are bigger issues for most people and RP is just following the constitution - return the abortion issues to each state as the federal government has no authority over it per the constitution. That is how you explain it to pro-choice Dems, not that they will buy it - but it is the proper way to go per the constitution.
 
These people who are offended at any mention of Congressman Paul's strong pro-life convictions aren't supporters we can count on anyhow.

And this idea that we are courting pro-choice Democrats is a joke.

I typically vote Democrat and am pro choice.

I am the Ron Paul precint captain for the 3rd biggest precinct in Iowa, have put up 4 signs, have convinced at least 10 friends in Iowa to caucus for Ron Paul, and have made just over 800 phone calls for the official campaign (no idea how many of those will translate to votes).

I am insulted by this comment from dircha, and the majority of this thread. I disagree with Ron Paul's position to repeal Roe vs Wade, but because of his other stances am working very hard to get votes for him in Iowa.
 
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The deadline to change registration from Democrat to Republican has past in Iowa right? And the caucus is closed? If that's the case then is there a point to try to convert Democrats? My guess is that the ad is targetted squarely towards converting Republicans.


No, you can register either way at the actual cacaus..
 
I typically vote Democrat and am pro choice.

I am the Ron Paul precint captain for the 3rd biggest precinct in Iowa, have put up 4 signs, have convinced at least 10 friends in Iowa to caucus for Ron Paul, and have made just over 800 phone calls for the official campaign (no idea how many of those will translate to votes).

I am insulted by this comment from dircha, and the majority of this thread. I disagree with Ron Paul's position to repeal Roe vs Wade, but because of his other stances am working very hard to get votes for him in Iowa.


All repealing Roe V Wade does is leaves the law open for the states to decide. Ron Paul is Pro-Life, but doesnt want the federal government involved in it. Thats the message that I like. "ITS NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS JOB."
 
All repealing Roe V Wade does is leaves the law open for the states to decide. Ron Paul is Pro-Life, but doesnt want the federal government involved in it. Thats the message that I like. "ITS NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS JOB."

and I think it should be the federal governments job.
 
All repealing Roe V Wade does is leaves the law open for the states to decide. Ron Paul is Pro-Life, but doesnt want the federal government involved in it. Thats the message that I like. "ITS NOT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENTS JOB."

Yet the infomercial shows him at a speech saying there should be an amendment defining life as beginning at conception.
 
Yet the infomercial shows him at a speech saying there should be an amendment defining life as beginning at conception.

If that amendment passed, then it would be the FedGov's business, because it would be a Constitutional issue. It's not, presently, thus Ron's position.
 
I am an independent that has always been pro-choice. I can respect both sides of this divisive issue. It bothers me when one side tries to paint their side as being more righteous than the other. As strong as I am about pro-choice, this infomercial does not turn me off in the least...it does not offend me....people have very differing views, plain and simple. Besides the staunch advocacy for smaller government, strict adherence to the constitution, position of bringing our troops home and willingness to talk about issues that all the other candidates are afraid of, it is this man's integrity, principals, non pandering campaign and decision to win this election by his beliefs or not at all that has pulled me and others that I know into fray....the foundation for Dr. Paul is as strong as it is for this very reason, imho. More than my vote and my support in spreading his message....its the immense respect that I have for this man that I feel the strongest about, hands down.
 
If that amendment passed, then it would be the FedGov's business, because it would be a Constitutional issue. It's not, presently, thus Ron's position.


pretty hard to come away with this conclusion from the infomercial.
 
This is what Ron Paul stands for. That is why I am voting for him. Maybe your relatives need to find a candidate that represents their veiws.
 
The infomercial is a pretty sad piece of work

I guess 6 months and $25M+ wasn't enough for Headquarters to arrange for a "fireside chat" from Paul, so people could see his warmth, passion, reason and integrity?

Sometimes I wonder if some key members of HQ - specifically those in charge of media production decisions - aren't actually working for the opposition....
 
:rolleyes:

The infomercial was divisive. It really turned off someone I know, who had supported Paul in the past, but changed his mind over the abortion thing. He then saw the infomercial, and that was it.

His BIG issue was the Fed, BTW.

Honestly, WTF were they thinking?

If his big issue is the fed and not abortion, why is he turned off by abortion? I love how people will vote for uber-statists who share their views on one insular little issue but are more of the same, while they will balk at someone who is obviously best for the country but on their little pet issue, they take an irrational stance that "oh well this wasnt an issue for me i really think hes the best candidate because of (insert important issue no one else is talking about here, like, the Fed), but OMG HE IS PRO LIFE WELL, THERE GOES THAT!

This is why 1)democracy(and even republics) are tragically flawed forms of governmen and 2) we are in the mess we are today, partly due to irrational idiots like your friend.
 
90% of the young people who support Ron on the net don't agree with this position on abortion. He should just keep his opinions on this to himself, since they have nothing to do with the position he running for - President.

and 78.5433% of statistics cited on an internet message board are pulled out of someones ass.

Source
 
The informercial was great!

It was probably the reason we're at 10% now in Iowa, up from 4% a week ago. So chill out.
 
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