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[otherone]

They did a piece for me in the business section of the paper too. It was pretty cool!

Hopefully they didn't use flash photography.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Misdirection and obfuscation are not tools of the Christian.

Apologize to all of the good Christian Methodists who you would condemn by virtue of their association.

Who do you think you are to condemn anyone?

Shame on you!

Your words Bucko;

What are you talking about? I've never condemned anyone, ever.

You are not rational enough to understand the distinction between condemning a particular theology and a particular person.

Or is it the liquor? I don't know what it is, but you aren't comprehending something...

 

[tod evans]

What are you talking about? I've never condemned anyone, ever.

You are not rational enough to understand the distinction between condemning a particular theology and a particular person.

Or is it the liquor? I don't know what it is, but you aren't comprehending something...

You named a worldwide Christian congregation and condemned the whole lot of them.

After the fact you try to misdirect and obfuscate claiming ideological differences in an attempt to avoid answering for your own words.

Either you're too embarrassed to fess up or you're the deceiver, by your actions these last several pages I'm leaning toward the latter.

Please prove me wrong and apologize to all of the good Christian Methodists you condemned.

I condemn the Methodist church because they don't preach the gospel.

 

[Sola_Fide]

You named a worldwide Christian congregation and condemned the whole lot of them.

After the fact you try to misdirect and obfuscate claiming ideological differences in an attempt to avoid answering for your own words.

Either you're too embarrassed to fess up or you're the deceiver, by your actions these last several pages I'm leaning toward the latter.

Please prove me wrong and apologize to all of the good Christian Methodists you condemned.

Do you want me to add to that list of the theologies that aren't Biblical? I have many more.

Rome doesn't preach the gospel.
Eastern Orthodoxy doesn't preach the gospel.
Southern Baptists don't preach the gospel.
Wesleyans don't preach the gospel.
Seventh Day Adventists don't preach the gospel.
Mormons don't preach the gospel.

You can add pretty much every mainstream evangelical church to that list too. Do you want me to go on?

 

[lilymc]

Notice how by post #3, the original topic was derailed.

Some things (people) never change. lol

 

[lilymc]

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter! - Isaiah 5:20

+ rep

 

[Sola_Fide]

Notice how by post #3, the original topic was derailed.

Some things (people) never change. lol

Do you believe Jesus took the punishment of sinners on Himself? Do you believe God has wrath against sin?

I ask because TERs church denies those things and I thought it was important to point out. It seems like an important part of the gospel.

 

[Natural Citizen]

Hey, you're in big trouble, Mr.

Hey! I forgot to mention that while I was gone from the boards I won my brands national award for guest service! It's awarded to the top 5 percent in guest reviewed hotels in the country. It's my 4th national award in 7 years.

They did a piece for me in the business section of the paper too. It was pretty cool!

Isaiah 2:12
12 The LORD Almighty has a day in store for all the proud and lofty, for all that is exalted (and they will be humbled),

Isaiah 23:9
9 The LORD Almighty planned it, to bring down her pride in all her splendor and to humble all who are renowned on the earth.

James 4:6
“God opposes the proud but shows favor to the humble.”

Proverbs 26:12
12 Do you see a person wise in their own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for them.

James 4:10
10 Humble yourselves before the Lord, and he will lift you up.

Jeremiah 9:23
23 “Let not the wise boast of their wisdom or the strong boast of their strength or the rich boast of their riches,

Philippians 2:3
3 Do nothing out of selfish ambition or vain conceit. Rather, in humility value others above yourselves,

Proverbs 8:13
13 To fear the LORD is to hate evil; I hate pride and arrogance, evil behavior and perverse speech.

Proverbs 11:2
2 When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.

Proverbs 13:10
10 Where there is strife, there is pride, but wisdom is found in those who take advice.

Proverbs 16:5
5 The LORD detests all the proud of heart. Be sure of this: They will not go unpunished.

Proverbs 16:18
18 Pride goes before destruction, a haughty spirit before a fall.

Proverbs 16:19
19 Better to be lowly in spirit along with the oppressed than to share plunder with the proud.

Proverbs 18:12
12 Before a downfall the heart is haughty, but humility comes before honor.

Proverbs 21:4
4 Haughty eyes and a proud heart— the unplowed field of the wicked—produce sin.

Proverbs 21:24
24 The proud and arrogant person—“Mocker” is his name— behaves with insolent fury.

Proverbs 25:27
27 It is not good to eat too much honey, nor is it honorable to search out matters that are too deep.

Proverbs 27:2
2 Let someone else praise you, and not your own mouth; an outsider, and not your own lips.

Proverbs 29:23
23 Pride brings a person low, but the lowly in spirit gain honor.

Psalm 10:4
4 In his pride the wicked man does not seek him; in all his thoughts there is no room for God.

Psalm 138:6
6 Though the LORD is exalted, he looks kindly on the lowly; though lofty, he sees them from afar.

Romans 12:16
16 Live in harmony with one another. Do not be proud, but be willing to associate with people of low position. Do not be conceited.

1 Corinthians 13:4
4 Love is patient, love is kind. It does not envy, it does not boast, it is not proud.

Daniel 5:20
20 But when his heart became arrogant and hardened with pride, he was deposed from his royal throne and stripped of his glory.

Galatians 6:1-3
1 Brothers and sisters, if someone is caught in a sin, you who live by the Spirit should restore that person gently. But watch yourselves, or you also may be tempted. 2 Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfill the law of Christ. 3 If anyone thinks they are something when they are not, they deceive themselves.

 

[tod evans]

Do you want me to go on?

I don't care one whit about your opinion of who preaches as you'd like.

I do care that you barged into this thread and condemned over a million Christian Methodists and flat out refuse to acknowledge your own words and apologize for them.

 

[lilymc]

Do you believe Jesus took the punishment of sinners on Himself? Do you believe God has wrath against sin?

I ask because TERs church denies those things and I thought it was important to point out. It seems like an important part of the gospel.

I knew that you were going to answer with a question. So predictable. I don't play your games, SF.

This thread is not about TER's church. And it wasn't posted to turn into a debate on Calvinism. But I do find it funny that this is probably thread #2,589,746 that you've tried to hijack.

 

[Sola_Fide]

I knew that you were going to answer with a question. So predictable. I don't play your games, SF.

This thread is not about TER's church. And it wasn't posted to turn into a debate on Calvinism. But I do find it funny that this is probably thread #2,589,746 that you've tried to hijack.

Fine. You don't have to answer. I just thought it would be interesting to point out.

I think you do believe that Jesus took the punishment due to sinners. I think. Am I right?

 

[Sola_Fide]

I don't care one whit about your opinion of who preaches as you'd like.

I do care that you barged into this thread and condemned over a million Christian Methodists and flat out refuse to acknowledge your own words and apologize for them.

If I condemned a person, then I would have something to apologize for, but I didn't. According to the Bible, I don't know the fate of anyone, and God saves people out of false religions like Methodism all the time. So I could not condemn any person in particular.

What I can and must condemn, as a Bible believing Christian, is the theology of Methodism which the Methodist church teaches. I condemn it in love because I want everyone to know the truth of Jesus Christ.

 

[tod evans]

If I condemned a person, then I would have something to apologize for, but I didn't. According to the Bible, I don't know the fate of anyone, and God saves people out of false religions like Methodism all the time. So I could not condemn any person in particular.

What I can and must condemn, as a Bible believing Christian, is the theology of Methodism which the Methodist church teaches. I condemn it in love because I want everyone to know the truth of Jesus Christ.

Own it deceiver.

I condemn the Methodist church because they don't preach the gospel.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Own it deceiver.

Do you want me to add to that list of the theologies that aren't Biblical? I have many more.

Rome doesn't preach the gospel.
Eastern Orthodoxy doesn't preach the gospel.
Southern Baptists don't preach the gospel.
Wesleyans don't preach the gospel.
Seventh Day Adventists don't preach the gospel.
Mormons don't preach the gospel.

You can add pretty much every mainstream evangelical church to that list too. Do you want me to go on?

 

[tod evans]

Do you want me to add to that list of the theologies that aren't Biblical? I have many more.

Rome doesn't preach the gospel.
Eastern Orthodoxy doesn't preach the gospel.
Southern Baptists don't preach the gospel.
Wesleyans don't preach the gospel.
Seventh Day Adventists don't preach the gospel.
Mormons don't preach the gospel.

You can add pretty much every mainstream evangelical church to that list too. Do you want me to go on?

Misdirection and obfuscation are not tools of the Christian.

Apologize to all of the good Christian Methodists who you would condemn by virtue of their association.

Who do you think you are to condemn anyone?

Shame on you!

 

[Sola_Fide]

Misdirection and obfuscation are not tools of the Christian.

Apologize to all of the good Christian Methodists who you would condemn by virtue of their association.

Who do you think you are to condemn anyone?

Shame on you!

What is a "good Christian Methodist"?

In fact, what is a Christian?

Can you answer that at least so I can know where you are coming from?

 

[tod evans]

What is a "good Christian Methodist"?

In fact, what is a Christian?

Can you answer that at least so I can know where you are coming from?

Apologize!

 

[Sola_Fide]

Apologize!

What do you think a Christian is?

I'm sure we have different views of that. What's your view on it?

 

[tod evans]

What do you think a Christian is?

I'm sure we have different views of that. What's your view on it?

Misdirection and obfuscation are not tools of the Christian.

Apologize to all of the good Christian Methodists who you would condemn by virtue of their association.

Who do you think you are to condemn anyone?

Shame on you!

I condemn the Methodist church because they don't preach the gospel.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Misdirection and obfuscation are not tools of the Christian.

Apologize to all of the good Christian Methodists who you would condemn by virtue of their association.

Who do you think you are to condemn anyone?

Shame on you!

Right, that's what I'm asking. What is a "good Christian Methodist"? What is a Christian in your view?