New Poll Minus Huckabee: Ron Paul in Fifth Place at 5%; Gary Johnson Below 1%

[rp08orbust]

Of the 92 people who initially chose Huckabee and Trump, only 51 responded to give their second choice. That left 41 people still choosing Huckabee and Trump, 36 for Huckabee and 5 for Trump. That's how they arrive at 8% for Huckabee and 1% for Trump.

I understand, but it's strange that Huckabee supporters were far more likely to return calls than Trump supporters. Do you know when the follow-up calls occurred? Did they call back during Apprentice?

 

[eleganz]

Why the hell is the Tea Party so divided??

And Why is the head of the Tea Party anti-RP?

And how can anybody in their right mind think that Sarah Palin can run this nation? Just the way she presents herself, I'm surprised she can put on her clothes properly in the morning. Her knowledge about politics and life in general is just so limited, she cannot answer questions without sounding totally stupid and quit her political career to advance her celebrity. I just don't get how the Tea Party can be behind someone like Sarah Palin-makes no sense at all.

 

[Thargok]

There is no head of the Tea Party, and if there was Rand Paul would be the closest thing to it, so I don't think we have to worry about that. In fact the Tea Party is really just a collection of tea satellites with no central power.

 

[libertybrewcity]

it's too early for polls.

 

[itsnobody]

Seems pretty inaccurate, but we still have to do a lot of work to get the GOP Nomination

 

[Billay]

JFC Guiliani polling ahead of us?

 

[sailingaway]

Why the hell is the Tea Party so divided??

And Why is the head of the Tea Party anti-RP?

And how can anybody in their right mind think that Sarah Palin can run this nation? Just the way she presents herself, I'm surprised she can put on her clothes properly in the morning. Her knowledge about politics and life in general is just so limited, she cannot answer questions without sounding totally stupid and quit her political career to advance her celebrity. I just don't get how the Tea Party can be behind someone like Sarah Palin-makes no sense at all.

The head of the tea party isn't anti Ron P. The head of a group that named itself Tea Party Nation long after the tea parties were underway in order to coopt them for neocon purposes is anti-RP. There is a significant difference.

 

[KEEF]

Why the hell is the Tea Party so divided??

And Why is the head of the Tea Party anti-RP?

And how can anybody in their right mind think that Sarah Palin can run this nation? Just the way she presents herself, I'm surprised she can put on her clothes properly in the morning. Her knowledge about politics and life in general is just so limited, she cannot answer questions without sounding totally stupid and quit her political career to advance her celebrity. I just don't get how the Tea Party can be behind someone like Sarah Palin-makes no sense at all.

No leader, there is just two female RINOs trying to take credit for starting it. I think in actuality, the TEA Party people really do have a ton of support for RP. FOX News just chooses not to show that side so to persuade the general public to nominate their elite chosen one.

 

[Paul4Prez]

Look at the bright side of the poll: no one is over 20 percent yet, and 20 percent are undecided. Palin and Giuliani are likely not running, which will free up another 19 percent. The mighty Newt is in single digits. Of the candidates in the first debate, none have passed Ron Paul in the polling, not Cain, not Pawlenty, not Santorum, and not Johnson. Mainstream media favorites Pawlenty, Daniels, and Huntsman barely register. Bachmann trails Ron Paul.

A lot of work left to do, but certainly nothing to be discouraged over.

 

[dbill27]

7% want Rudy Giuliani, wtf?

 

[mpdsapuser]

it's too early for polls.

Agreed. Even if Bachtmann enters, she has less name recognition than Palin. She is being trumped up to be the anti-Paul tea party rep. People will see through her. However, I have a hard time thinking she is going to enter. Why waste the time going through this unless she is practicing and going through the motions for 2016.

 

[Liberty Shark]

How reputable are Suffolk's polls? Why is Giuliani listed?
If it is accurate there is some good news here. Romney should have way more than 20%. And Gingrich was in single digits before the implosion.
National polls aren't really too important this early. The polling people should be conducting polls in the specific early states like Iowa and New Hampshire.

 

[BlackTerrel]

Basically of the people who actually will run this puts Romney #1 and then a group of people (Ron Paul included) in second place and within the margin of error. There is one man in front as of now is how I look at it.

 

[Liberty Shark]

Bachmann could be a threat in Iowa, especially if Palin doesn't run - also now that Huckabee is out.
Highly unlikely Romney does well in Iowa.

 

[libertarian4321]

My prediction: Bachmann's in and Palin will throw her support toward her, and Huckabee's support will go that way. Top 2 contenders:
Romney, Bachmann. Establishment vs tea party

Bachmann is a loose cannon who shoots off her mouth without thinking (or maybe she is thinking and still says stupid things, which is even worse). Sarah Palin, clueless as she is, looks like an elder statesman compared to Bachmann. If she runs she will shoot herself in the foot very quickly.

If Bachmann is the only contender to Romney, you may as well just hand Romney the nomination.

I'd like to think a more rational contender might challenge Romeny, especially Ron Paul (though, frankly, almost any of the potential contenders is more rational than Bachmann).

 

[ronpaulitician]

the entire campaign will sink

Game over, man. Game over.

 

[ronpaulitician]

7% want Rudy Giuliani, wtf?

I bet those are all Ron Paul supporters who just want to see him finally apologize to Ron Paul during a live debate.

 

[Nathan Hale]

I think it's a little early to say that Palin isn't running. On Hannity last night she gave a pretty hard "I'm seriously thinking about it" line.

 

[sailingaway]

Bachmann could be a threat in Iowa, especially if Palin doesn't run - also now that Huckabee is out.
Highly unlikely Romney does well in Iowa.

Exactly. I think she is in it just to get name recognition for next time, but I think she will be in it through the early states we NEED to be big in to get RP viewed as a serious candidate despite the polling which shows him to be such.

However, I'm pretty much ignoring this poll, except as a 'media spin' point. It just doesn't match up with any of the others I've seen.

 

[Johncjackson]

The poll isn't that bad. Where was he this time in 2007- 12th? 1%?
Pawlenty, Daniels, and Huntsman are all being pushed in the media. Pawlenty was supposed to be the only "top tier" in the first debate. Daniels is being pushed as sort of an acceptable "libertarian-friendly" more mainstream candidate. I've seen a lot of stories about Huntsman being pushed, though acknowledging he is seen as too moderate. Cain won the debate! Bachmann is being pushed as the "tea party"candidate.

What do those candidates have in common? They are all being pushed as favorites by at least some significant faction of media and party insiders, yet they are all polling behind Ron Paul.

Plus you have to figure at least 20% is up for grabs, some of those candidates wont run at all, and at least a handful probably wont even make it to the primaries or will be gone after Iowa or NH.