New Iowa PPP poll: Rand at 3% with a 31% favorability rating

[Anti Federalist]

Poor guy, not only was he sick, but he's trying to sell freedom to people who don't want it.

I'm inclined to go donate just for the hell of it.

Just dropped a $50 check in the mail.

 

[Jan2017]

But are they energized to turn out for Rand? At this juncture, I'd say not many.

based on what (?). . . certainly not college students,

They have a stake in how this turns out more than all the old fart geezers of the old school GOP like the Roves and Bushes and
Huckabee clan that can go _______________ ( fill in the blank )

 

[Matthanuf06]

Rand is running one of the worst campaigns I've ever seen.

Like right now he's going after Trump? Why? There is no reason. He's doing the establishments job for them.

It's plain as day Trump and his supporters want people to go after him. Enemies, real or imagined, are the fuel of his campaign.

Attacking any candidate is not going to help him.

He needs to fortify his policies. I'm fine with it being slightly more conservative than Ron. But fortify them. Spread the message. Be on point. Craft the message on why his policies are best for America. Focus on Iran, Isis, budget, taxes, and immigration. That's what matters. Be Presidential and persuade the public you are right and the one to lead. Continue building the ground game.

Will that win? Probably not, but it's his only hope. If he keeps doing what he's doing he won't even make it to Iowa.

 

[AuH20]

Rand is running one of the worst campaigns I've ever seen.

Like right now he's going after Trump? Why? There is no reason. He's doing the establishments job for them.

It's plain as day Trump and his supporters want people to go after him. Enemies, real or imagined, are the fuel of his campaign.

Attacking any candidate is not going to help him.

He needs to fortify his policies. I'm fine with it being slightly more conservative than Ron. But fortify them. Spread the message. Be on point. Craft the message on why his policies are best for America. Focus on Iran, Isis, budget, taxes, and immigration. That's what matters. Be Presidential and persuade the public you are right and the one to lead. Continue building the ground game.

Will that win? Probably not, but it's his only hope. If he keeps doing what he's doing he won't even make it to Iowa.

Rand doesn't get it. No one is intrigued by Trump because he is this so-called 'true conservative.' Rand is now chasing the White Whale (Trump) because he refuses to examine what he's doing wrong as a candidate. How is a candidate with allegedly no brain or no substance beating his ass in multiple states? Only once Rand arrives at this uncomfortable answer, can he move forward & revitalize his failing campaign. This strikes me as a case of displacement or projection.

 

[Jan2017]

Can you name me one GOP presidentional canidates that empower voters for change?

Easy . . . the Congressman who wrote this book collection of essays . . .



Oh darn it - Ron Paul is not running this time around.

His son - no less, sure is - that Senator guy from Kentucky.

Did you see him get in the face of Trupster (?) - this is getting good.

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And three weeks to kickoff of college football - this is getting real good.

 

[Wilf]

Easy . . . the Congressman who wrote this book collection of essays . . .

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I meant a GOP president.

 

[Jan2017]

I meant a GOP president.

me too . . . is that Grand Ol' Party ??

 

[Wilf]

me too . . . is that Grand Ol' Party ??

Yup

 

[Badger Paul]

" would think that any dip in IOWA would be the result of the recent indictment rather than his performance at the debate."

It certainly doesn't help, especially among activist Republicans in Iowa who would normally vote in the caucuses.

But then again I didn't allow Benton to be heading up one of my PACs either. I hope he's quit. I haven't heard anything on this front yet.

 

[jllundqu]

PPP: Fiorina on Fire, Paul Tanking

Not the best numbers.

Trump Still Leads in Iowa; Fiorina on Fire; Paul Tanking



PPP's newest Iowa poll finds Donald Trump leading the Republican field in the state even after a weekend of controversy. He's at 19% to 12% for Ben Carson and Scott Walker, 11% for Jeb Bush, 10% for Carly Fiorina, 9% for Ted Cruz, and 6% for Mike Huckabee and Marco Rubio.

The other 9 candidates are all clustered between 3% and having no support at all (George Pataki)- John Kasich and Rand Paul are at 3%, Bobby Jindal, Rick Perry, and Rick Santorum at 2%, Chris Christie at 1%, and Jim Gilmore, Lindsey Graham, and Pataki all have less than 1%.

PPP last polled Iowa in April and at that time Trump had a 40/40 favorability rating with GOP voters. On this poll his favorability is 46/40, not substantially better than it four months ago. That suggests Trump's favorability could be back on the way down after peaking sometime in the last few weeks. But at any rate Trump does have the advantage with pretty much every segment of the GOP electorate- he's up with Evangelicals, men, women, voters in every age group, moderates, voters who are most concerned with having the candidate who is most conservative on the issues, and voters who are most concerned about having a candidate who can win the general election.

The biggest winner coming out of the debate looks to be Carly Fiorina. Her favorability rating is now 56/15, compared to 30/15 when we polled Iowa in April. She was such a nonfactor the last time we polled that we didn't even bother to include her in the horse race question but now she's at 10% and in the top 5. Fiorina also ties with Walker as the most frequent 2nd choice of GOP voters at 11%.

Besides Fiorina the only other candidate who seems to have any momentum is Carson. He was at 5% in April and has seen his support go up by 5 points to its new 12% standing. Carson is also the most popular candidate in the field, with a 69/10 favorability rating. That's up from a 44/15 spread in April.

The biggest loser in the poll is Rand Paul. He now has a negative favorability rating at 31/45. That gives him the worst numbers of anyone in the field, outdistancing even Chris Christie on the unpopularity front. Paul's 3% standing represents a drop all the way down from 10% in April. Paul's been foundering anyway, and his campaign's ties to the Kent Sorenson mess are probably making things particularly bad for him in Iowa.

Besides Paul the candidate worst off in this poll is Christie. He's never been strong in Iowa- he was at 5% in April- but now he's polling in asterisk territory at 1%. Christie's overall image has actually improved- he's still unpopular with a 34/44 favorability rating but that's better than 28/50 in April- but he may be losing voters who value his tough talk style to Trump.

Scott Walker (from 23% to 12%), Marco Rubio (from 13% to 6%), and Mike Huckabee (from 10% to 6%) all saw sizable drops in their support over the last four months. The good news for them though is that they're still among the most popular candidates in the state, right behind Carson. Rubio's favorability is 66/15, Huckabee's is 64/20, and Walker's is 63/17. Being so well liked positions all of them well to potentially benefit as other candidates falter further down the line. Walker is tied with Fiorina as the most frequent 2nd choice of voters at 11% and Rubio is in double digits on that front as well at 10%. Still it has to be pretty embarrassing for Huckabee to trail Trump 18 to 9 with evangelicals.

Jeb Bush (12% in April, 11% now) and Ted Cruz (8% in April, 9% now) are both holding pretty steady. And despite his support for the nomination being flat, voters are warming up to Bush some- his 45/32 favorability is an improvement from 38/37 in the spring.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2015/08/trump-still-leads-in-iowa-fiorina-on-fire-paul-tanking.html

 

[jllundqu]

This poll is being cited in several articles I'm finding.

 

[Okie RP fan]

Do you know what you are talking about? In 2012 Republican Iowa caucuses 15% were youth (17-29) compared to 68% were age 45 and up. Ron won 48% of the youth and only about 13% of the 45+. It's why HE LOST. There just isn't enough youth votes to go around to make that big of a difference. Democrats do slightly better in getting the youth vote out at around 20% give or take. Still that 5 point upswing still isn't enough votes after they get distributed by 12 candidates. The older votes drown out the youth votes by 4 times.

Ron Paul got more youth votes than Romney and Santorum combined yet placed third in Iowa. The turn out numbers per age group are always about the same. It is what is it. It's better to work with reality than trying to change reality in regards to who votes in Republican caucuses and primaries.

Why do you have to specifically talk about Iowa?
I was talking in general throughout 2012. And voter registration in general. You're trying to make arguments just to hear yourself, it would seem.

Take a chill pill.

 

[rich34]

Rand doesn't get it. No one is intrigued by Trump because he is this so-called 'true conservative.' Rand is now chasing the White Whale (Trump) because he refuses to examine what he's doing wrong as a candidate. How is a candidate with allegedly no brain or no substance beating his ass in multiple states? Only once Rand arrives at this uncomfortable answer, can he move forward & revitalize his failing campaign. This strikes me as a case of displacement or projection.

I'm not being rude, or mean like Don Juan, but seriously.. What the hell do you suggest that he should be doing?? It seems you have all the answers, I honestly want to hear what Rand "should" be doing right now. Hell who knows maybe Rand will make you campaign manager after this truly enlightening experience. I'm all ears dude!

 

[Brett85]

I'm not being rude, or mean like Don Juan, but seriously.. What the hell do you suggest that he should be doing?? It seems you have all the answers, I honestly want to hear what Rand "should" be doing right now. Hell who knows maybe Rand will make you campaign manager after this truly enlightening experience. I'm all ears dude!

I know you're not talking to me, but I'll give my opinion really quick. If Rand wants to poll better in Iowa, he needs to actually show up for events in Iowa. He's already skipped several events in Iowa that the other candidates attended in order to go campaign in states like Texas and Michigan. That just makes no sense strategically. Rand needs to spend as much time in Iowa as possible and needs to show up at events where people can see and hear from him. Rand isn't going to ever poll well in Iowa if he doesn't even show up. He's just ran a completely incompetent campaign so far. He still has time to turn it around, but he has to stop doing things that make no strategic sense.

 

[AuH20]

I'm not being rude, or mean like Don Juan, but seriously.. What the hell do you suggest that he should be doing?? It seems you have all the answers, I honestly want to hear what Rand "should" be doing right now. Hell who knows maybe Rand will make you campaign manager after this truly enlightening experience. I'm all ears dude!

Get back to basics. Examine the themes and rhetoric that you utilized in the 2010 campaign to great success. Rand got sidetracked on mandatory minimums and other nonsense. He needs to become the anti-globalist figure in this race combined with his fierce libertarianism. That's the winning play, though he has dug quite a hole. He needs to firm and resolute on illegal immigration. No need to be bombastic or personal. Emphasize the unneeded stress that this humanitarian crisis is placing on the already besieged social welfare net. Talk about how inflation is destroying lives and even bring out visual aids if need be. Take away the the belt from Donald Trump as champion of the middle class.

 

[P3ter_Griffin]

Rand doesn't get it. No one is intrigued by Trump because he is this so-called 'true conservative.' Rand is now chasing the White Whale (Trump) because he refuses to examine what he's doing wrong as a candidate. How is a candidate with allegedly no brain or no substance beating his ass in multiple states? Only once Rand arrives at this uncomfortable answer, can he move forward & revitalize his failing campaign. This strikes me as a case of displacement or projection.

You are so fucking stupid you are not worth engaging, but I'll point out to others, contrary to what shitbag here spouts, many Trump supporters do believe he is the best conservative candidate. Maybe shitbag and his troll buddies understand Trump is a leftist, but take to twitter, see for yourself, many of the individuals supporting Trump can be won over, and by differentiating himself with Trump on issues THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THESE CONSERVATIVES, Rand is at least attempting to do so. How about we give Rand a hand, and leave these fuckbags to circle jerk into each others ears.

 

[kbs021]

You are so fucking stupid you are not worth engaging, but I'll point out to others, contrary to what shitbag here spouts, many Trump supporters do believe he is the best conservative candidate. Maybe shitbag and his troll buddies understand Trump is a leftist, but take to twitter, see for yourself, many of the individuals supporting Trump can be won over, and by differentiating himself with Trump on issues THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THESE CONSERVATIVES, Rand is at least attempting to do so. How about we give Rand a hand, and leave these fuckbags to circle jerk into each others ears.

Exactly. Trump has a base of loyal support. However, there are conservatives who think he is conservative. They haven't looked up his record, or don't know everything about him. He will start losing people when they start looking into him. For example, the openness of funding PP today.. That should hurt him, but people have to hear about it

 

[AuH20]

You are so fucking stupid you are not worth engaging, but I'll point out to others, contrary to what shitbag here spouts, many Trump supporters do believe he is the best conservative candidate. Maybe shitbag and his troll buddies understand Trump is a leftist, but take to twitter, see for yourself, many of the individuals supporting Trump can be won over, and by differentiating himself with Trump on issues THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO THESE CONSERVATIVES, Rand is at least attempting to do so. How about we give Rand a hand, and leave these fuckbags to circle jerk into each others ears.

Impeccable analysis. You should send this to Englander and Stafford. Maybe even throw in some emojis for added enphasis.

 

[acptulsa]

Impeccable analysis. You should send this to Englander and Stafford. Maybe even throw in some emojis for added enphasis.

Actually, it is an impeccable analysis. We need to be out there explaining to people what the media isn't telling them, and you try to take over the forum with your relentless spamming and incurable negativity, stopping only to reassure us once in a while that the reason you are totally dumping on our man in our site is because you love him and want him to turn into Ronald Reagan.

You're getting cussed out because you deserve it. You're working hard to deserve it, too.

Stick some emojis on that, trollbot.

You want to torpedo the only guy who might get us our liberty back in time for us to fix this thing. As you've admitted, you want to see it burn. Do you have to sound so smug about it? Do you consider that noble? Do you have to make it your life's work? Shouldn't you be stocking the bomb shelter with canned goods?

 

[AuH20]

Actually, it is an impeccable analysis. We need to be out there explaining to people what the media isn't telling them, and you try to take over the forum with your relentless spamming and incurable negativity, stopping only to reassure us once in a while that the reason you are totally dumping on our man in our site is because you love him and want him to turn into Ronald Reagan.

You're getting cussed out because you deserve it. You're working hard to deserve it, too.

Stick some emojis on that, trollbot.

Rand is doing a great job following Ronald's infamous footsteps without my help. He's in lockstep with the Chamber and AIPAC. It must really burn your britches that your man sold out. Do you think I would come into this hostile arena of sycophants without truth on my side? Do you really think putdowns and insults are going to change facts?