New Iowa PPP poll: Rand at 3% with a 31% favorability rating

[Brett85]

For those who think that Rand did great in the debate and really helped himself. That simply isn't the case. Rand greatly damaged himself in the debate. It was an unforced error. He should've simply been himself.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_IA_81015.pdf

 

[Jan2017]

And on the University of Iowa campus he is at what ?

 

[LatinsforPaul]

For those who think that Rand did great in the debate and really helped himself. That simply isn't the case. Rand greatly damaged himself in the debate. It was an unforced error. He should've simply been himself.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_IA_81015.pdf

That's it, I had enough! I'm dumping Rand for Carly, just like FOX said!

 

[Jan2017]

That's it, I had enough! I'm dumping Rand for Carly, just like FOX said!

lmao . . . from libertarian conservative constitutionalist to a failed businesswoman who has never held public office . . . sheezs

 

[AuH20]

 

[pacodever]

For those who think that Rand did great in the debate and really helped himself. That simply isn't the case. Rand greatly damaged himself in the debate. It was an unforced error. He should've simply been himself.

I would think that any dip in IOWA would be the result of the recent indictment rather than his performance at the debate.

his campaign's ties to the Kent Sorenson mess are probably making things particularly bad for him in Iowa.

Also:

Public Policy Polling surveyed 619 usual Republican primary voters and 567 usual Democratic primary voters from August 7th to 9th. The margin of error for the Republicans is +/-3.9% and for the Democrats it’s +/-4.1%. 80% of participants responded via the phone, while 20% of respondents who did not have landlines conducted the survey over the internet.

So the poll is pretty much meaningless regarding Rand.

 

[acptulsa]

Just the sort of policy I'd expect to hear suggested by someone who has admitted that he wants to see Rand lose, the establishment win, and the United States of America burn to the ground.

So the poll is pretty much meaningless.

That's the advantage to stuffing the race full of stooges. Even Jeb Bush's number could be zero, given the margin for error. You can make the numbers say anything you want them to say.

 

[AuH20]

For those who think that Rand did great in the debate and really helped himself. That simply isn't the case. Rand greatly damaged himself in the debate. It was an unforced error. He should've simply been himself.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_IA_81015.pdf

Predebate Rand even said that his advisers told him to play it safe, but he overruled them.

 

[LatinsforPaul]

lmao . . . from libertarian conservative constitutionalist to a failed businesswoman who has never held public office . . . sheezs

That's the jump you get when FOX and the MSM pumps you up after the debate.

 

[Brett85]

Predebate Rand even said that his advisers told him to play it safe, but he overruled them.

I know. He should've just listened to his advisors. Hopefully Rand looks at these polls and gets things figured out.

 

[Warlord]

These polls are BS

 

[AuH20]

I know. He should've just listened to his advisors. Hopefully Rand looks at these polls and gets things figured out.

You never try to win it all back at the poker table this fast. More often than not you get wiped out.

 

[dannno]

Predebate Rand even said that his advisers told him to play it safe, but he overruled them.

I know. He should've just listened to his advisors. Hopefully Rand looks at these polls and gets things figured out.

Where did you hear that?? As I recall, he said that EVERYBODY he talked to told him to speak up if he wanted to get attention.

These polls are BS

Yes, these polls are BS.

Ron was still in single digits in Iowa weeks before the caucus. When the polling companies' reputation was on the line, Ron shot up to 25% in the polls.

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...ore-Like-Him&p=5953201&viewfull=1#post5953201

 

[Sola_Fide]

That's it, I had enough! I'm dumping Rand for Carly, just like FOX said!

Me too. We should quit fighting for liberty too, because we all know if we don't have political sucess, we are nothing.

 

[Crashland]

Those numbers are brutally bad. Even if they're polling the wrong demographics, 3% is really bad for any demographic. Anything can happen but being within the margin of error of 0% is pretty embarrassing

 

[RonPaulMall]

For those who think that Rand did great in the debate and really helped himself. That simply isn't the case. Rand greatly damaged himself in the debate. It was an unforced error. He should've simply been himself.

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2015/PPP_Release_IA_81015.pdf

I thought he hurt himself slightly more than he helped, but at the end of the day, the debate is an irrelevancy. Rand isn't a particularly good debater and debates were never going to play a key role in his victory. With Rand, success or failure is going to boil down to image and crafting a message. You can reinforce that in a debate, but debates aren't where that kind of work is done. Rand is at 3% right now because he hasn't yet crafted a compelling message, but there is still time. And the good news is he has a very successful template of his own work that he can crib of off from 2010.

 

[AuH20]

Where did you hear that?? As I recall, he said that EVERYBODY he talked to told him to speak up if he wanted to get attention.

In the "I'm going to mix it up" interview. Rand said it himself.

 

[rich34]

I would think that any dip in IOWA would be the result of the recent indictment rather than his performance at the debate.



Also:



So the poll is pretty much meaningless regarding Rand.

Thank you very much! They're still putting hood winking tactics into their damn polls!! With Ron Paul it was simply not recording his vote when people would select his name. Now with Rand they know exactly where his support is coming from so they're simply excluding it. But like Ron, once the election gets near these pollsters will eventually correct the demographics and Rand will surge. Right now they're trying to ensure Rand doesn't get any of the older vote once the surge happens since the surge will be coming from all the younger crowd. I just hope everyone will hang in there with him. Until that time comes. With the election being in Feb. don't expect the rise in the polls to occur until around the beginning of December.

 

[rich34]

I thought he hurt himself slightly more than he helped, but at the end of the day, the debate is an irrelevancy. Rand isn't a particularly good debater and debates were never going to play a key role in his victory. With Rand, success or failure is going to boil down to image and crafting a message. You can reinforce that in a debate, but debates aren't where that kind of work is done. Rand is at 3% right now because he hasn't yet crafted a compelling message, but there is still time. And the good news is he has a very successful template of his own work that he can crib of off from 2010.

Exactly, all candidates have their peaks and valleys during campaigns. Let this be Rand's valley because he has plent of time to try and peak at just the right time. Lets hope this time when he does, the establishment won't have a counter. How can anyone determine when you're going to peak? If there is a political guy out there right now that could somewhat predict that, it'd be Rand. Just hang in there guys. The surge will come when these damn pollsters correct their polling models. If not and Rand can turn out all of Ron's supporters from 2012, there's going to be an awful lot of pollsters with egg on their face and hopefully in the unemployment line!

 

[Mr.NoSmile]

Play it safe, be aggressive, be yourself, walk the tightrope- no one's ever going to be satisfied and few here are ever going to believe polls that don't put Paul in first place or near the top because those apparently don't count..