MSNBC Goes Full Retard

[KEEF]

Summary - anybody can be white if the media dislikes you.

http://www.hulu.com/watch/10356

 

[Acala]

On average, an employer is more likely to choose a resume with a white sounding name over the black sounding name, all other things being equal.

Probably so. And there is a perfectly rational reason for doing so that has nothing to do with the employer being racist. A black employee represents a greater risk of legal liability to the employer than an otherwise identical white employee due to equal employment opportunity laws. So a perfectly rational, non-racist businessman would choose the white employee to get the same performance at reduced risk. That is government helping the black man.

 

[SonofThunder]

The SPLC is a hate group

 

[dillo]

Are black people/minorities currently treated equally, though? Or are you one of those people who think whites are being oppressed and minorities have some sort of upper hand? Because if you think white people (the majority therefore the default race of this country and people who run the country in government) and black people (recent history of being enslaved, demonized, heavily incarcerated victims of unjust drug laws, stop-and-frisks, discrimination in the work place, unfavorable media portrayal, below the white standard of beauty pushed by the media, mostly at or below poverty levels, passed over on employment options for having a black sounding name, etc) / minorities like Mexicans or other people from Spanish-speaking countries (supposedly ruining the country by stealing jobs, stigmatized as dirty illegals, also victims of many things facing African Americans like racial profiling) are on equal footing, you're either ignorant or purposely being obtuse.

The system is broken and heavily skewed to favor white people based on America's racist history and current laws. While certain programs which purport to help blacks and minorities may be causing more harm than good, it's a mistake to claim all races would suddenly be equal if we got rid of these programs. There's much worse racism entrenched in the system to attack and worry about than affirmative action.

Maybe once we end the War on Drugs, stop intervening in the affairs of other nations and fighting unconstitutional wars, become a prosperous nation, create more jobs and do away with corporatism, we'll see much more equality.

This doesn't mean anyone has to be guilty for having a particular skin color; that's preposterous. It does mean however, that in order to create a more equal society, we must eliminate government and its unjust laws. I don't think racism will ever end nor do I think it's odd that a country that's majority white will cater more to the majority, but as things are now, getting close to equality is a joke.

I think your grossly misrepresenting what I said.

I want everyone to be treated equally, I never said people were currently being treated equally. I am against affirmative action and quotas mainly because they divide people. You are never going to solve the issues of discrimination and racism by putting labels on people and victimizing them because of their skin color. While your intentions are might be good, all it does is divide people. If you are against treating people equally than I dont think you are ever going to solve the problems that plague this country.

 

[Original_Intent]

MSNBC going full retard is a pretty short trip from where they live. And Fox is next door neighbors on the other side.

 

[bunklocoempire]

Simply brilliant.

I don't hate what you do because of what you do, I hate what you do because of who you are.

So please, could you put on some white (other) face when you stick that gun in my ribs?

Thanks, that's you're much better.

Piss off ya fear mongering-hate spreading-issue clouders.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Reading your post I didn't really know where to begin. I guess I'll break down each of your points.

There is categorical, undeniable, proof of institutionalized racism both in the judicial system and in corporate America.

True about institutionalized racism being found in the judicial system. Not really sure what exactly your "categorical, undeniable, proof of institutionalized racism" in corporate America is referring to. I do know affirmative action is not needed. Whoever is fit for the job is fit for the job. A company that hired inferior people based simply because they were white or black would suffer in the long run because of it. Not to mention business practices could be known and people could judge them accordingly on whether or not they agree with the business's ideals.

Being white makes life exponentially easier than being not white. This isn't a reason for guilt, or shame, or self-loathing. It is, however, cause to investigate why this paradigm currently exists -- as an objective, white, on-looker, I think it's pretty obvious: the war on drugs and democrat economic policy.

Exponentially, huh? Not seeing it. Perhaps you have had things handed to you based on your skin tone but me, no. Difference of experiences I'd assume. The war on drugs is a tragedy. See, a type of people may say the war on drugs is a tragedy for blacks, and that is true. I say the war on drugs is a tragedy for everyone. Hispanics, blacks, whites everyone. That is the difference in looking at things collectively and arguing a reverse racist point or looking at things individually and judging them for what they are.

That you're completely unwilling to admit that life as a white person, imperfect as it is, is easier than life as literally anyone else, shows an ignorance - not racism, not hate, not fear. None of that. I'd suggest that you look into research on the subject because it sounds like you've no idea how much worse things could be for you.

My life is not easier because of skin tone. Perhaps yours was, and that's great, but I've worked hard for everything I have and never had a damn thing given to me. I've been profiled and harassed more times than I care to get into. I've had charges trumped up more times than I care to get into. And I've seen racism from both sides living where I have. You perpetuating some victim mentality isn't helping anyone. Every generation "race relations" get better.

What do you want me to acknowledge that I haven't? (simple, concise points, please) Yes, blacks are disproportionately arrested and sentenced to jail time. Crack cocaine laws are unjust. (any drug law, actually) I fail to see me in denial of anything. What I see is me not wavering on the issue simply because of one's skin tone. Blacks being imprisoned for petty victimless crimes is as much of a tragedy as whites being imprisoned for petty victimless crimes. Pointing out one's race when mentioning their injustice is downplaying the injustices of the other. It is a distraction and further divides.

As to researching the subject I think I'll have to take a rain check. I've got much bigger fish to fry and my book list grows exponentially daily. I know of atrocities that you'd be hard pressed to find in your sociology books and read about more instances than is probably healthy, daily.

 

[jbauer]

We all knew at some point they were going to tie the Boston bombing to "far right" fringe groups. This is just the very beginning of the full on assault of Rand Paul. He jumped the gun and started campaigning in 2013. They have to start counter campaigning in 2013. The Hillary "stealing" through her charity is whats got these panty sniffers up in arms. How dare someone question their chosen successor to the thrown.

I say f 'em all, for all we know 2016 might never come. You see what they're doing to political rivals in Egypt. What makes you think that wont start happening here?

 

[jbauer]

Oh and as far as this whole black vs white, poor vs rich, food stamps vs bailouts. We all have it tough. You can bring up reasons about why such and such group has it worse then another but just about anyone can find statistics to claim their group is being treated unfairly.

Why don't we argue for liberty and freedom for EVERYONE, that way everyone can make a life for themselves and live or die based upon their success or lack there of alone.

 

[paulbot24]

Oh and as far as this whole black vs white, poor vs rich, food stamps vs bailouts. We all have it tough. You can bring up reasons about why such and such group has it worse then another but just about anyone can find statistics to claim their group is being treated unfairly.

Why don't we argue for liberty and freedom for EVERYONE, that way everyone can make a life for themselves and live or die based upon their success or lack there of alone.

+rep. Damn you just channeled Ron Paul with that one.

 

[Origanalist]

+rep. Damn you just channeled Ron Paul with that one.

You mean racist Ron Paul?

 

[nobody's_hero]

The left uses the race card to the point of wearing it out. It's the equivalent of the right going all 'boogey boogey terrorism' all the time to the point where no one listens to them anymore.

 

[jbauer]

You mean racist Ron Paul?

If Ron's a racist I'll gladly hang from the tree right next to him when they come for us.

 

[jbauer]

The left uses the race card to the point of wearing it out. It's the equivalent of the right going all 'boogey boogey terrorism' all the time to the point where no one listens to them anymore.

Then why do BOTH SIDES keep listening?

 

[angelatc]

Are black people/minorities currently treated equally, though? Or are you one of those people who think whites are being oppressed and minorities have some sort of upper hand? Because if you think white people (the majority therefore the default race of this country and people who run the country in government) and black people (recent history of being enslaved, demonized, heavily incarcerated victims of unjust drug laws, stop-and-frisks, discrimination in the work place, unfavorable media portrayal, below the white standard of beauty pushed by the media, mostly at or below poverty levels, passed over on employment options for having a black sounding name, etc) / minorities like Mexicans or other people from Spanish-speaking countries (supposedly ruining the country by stealing jobs, stigmatized as dirty illegals, also victims of many things facing African Americans like racial profiling) are on equal footing, you're either ignorant or purposely being obtuse.

The system is broken and heavily skewed to favor white people based on America's racist history and current laws. While certain programs which purport to help blacks and minorities may be causing more harm than good, it's a mistake to claim all races would suddenly be equal if we got rid of these programs. There's much worse racism entrenched in the system to attack and worry about than affirmative action.

Maybe once we end the War on Drugs, stop intervening in the affairs of other nations and fighting unconstitutional wars, become a prosperous nation, create more jobs and do away with corporatism, we'll see much more equality.

This doesn't mean anyone has to be guilty for having a particular skin color; that's preposterous. It does mean however, that in order to create a more equal society, we must eliminate government and its unjust laws. I don't think racism will ever end nor do I think it's odd that a country that's majority white will cater more to the majority, but as things are now, getting close to equality is a joke.

I hate everybody equally.

 

[Legend1104]

Sometimes the dumb is so high that your left dumbfounded and speechless.

 

[torchbearer]

I never liked Steele. I could never put my finger on why I didn't like him but I sensed he was a slimeball.

you don't recall what he said about Ron after the Guiliani debate?

 

[MelissaWV]

Yeah, there are some instances where perceived race is going to (sadly) play a part in how you are treated.

Guess what else?

Married vs. not
Old vs. young
Tall vs. short
Fat vs. thin
Male vs. female
Pretty vs. ugly

Your name is a way of making a first impression. The "black-sounding name" experiment was interesting. What they seem to have left out, though, were equally stereotypical "white-sounding names." I don't think Jim-Bob is going to get hired to a senior finance position, do you?

Saying "oh noes the minorities have it unfairer!" is pointless. Help individuals if you'd like, and tell yourself that doing so with the sole motivation of helping a poor minority out isn't racist, but life isn't fair and we're each a minority of one.

 

[donnay]

you don't recall what he said about Ron after the Guiliani debate?

Hmm...not right off the top of my head. I am sure it was something smarmy.

 

[tod evans]

I hate everybody equally.

Why yeah!