Most free country

[cindy25]

Hong Kong is not a country. The United States should not be on that list at all.

Hong Kong is a separate entity, with its own legal system, tax system, postal service, and currency.

 

[Rudeman]

If I were to live in another country it would be Switzerland so it's nice to see them on the list at #2.

BTW I checked to see what the list would be like if everything was crucial:

Top 10:

1 Chile - 74
2 Switzerland - 74
3 Australia - 73
4 Bahamas - 72
5 Canada - 71
6 New Zealand - 71
7 United States - 71
8 Uruguay - 71
9 Singapore - 70
10 Netherlands - 70


Bottom 10:
1 Korea (North) - 3
2 Eritrea - 27
3 Cuba - 27
4 Libya - 30
5 Congo (Dem. Rep.) - 38
6 Venezuela - 38
7 Uzbekistan - 39
8 Iran - 39
9 Burma (Myanmar) - 39
10 China - 40

 

[BuddyRey]

How is Chile? I hear great things about it, and besides, I'm already taking Spanish lessons on duolingo, so it seems the most convenient choice.

 

[alucard13mm]

Mainland chinese actually go to hong kong to have anchor babies. Cost of living in hong kong is sky high as youd imagine for any urban metropolis.

 

[osan]

Yes, but they charge a flat fee. It won't spiral out of control like interest can.

I don't think that was Zippy's point, which to my eyes was only that the Muslims are full of shit on the subject of interest. They most certainly DO charge interest; they just call it something else - it's like putting a nice shade of lipstick on a pig and calling it a woman.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

If I were to live in another country it would be Switzerland so it's nice to see them on the list at #2.

BTW I checked to see what the list would be like if everything was crucial:

Top 10:

1 Chile - 74
2 Switzerland - 74
3 Australia - 73
4 Bahamas - 72
5 Canada - 71
6 New Zealand - 71
7 United States - 71
8 Uruguay - 71
9 Singapore - 70
10 Netherlands - 70


Bottom 10:
1 Korea (North) - 3
2 Eritrea - 27
3 Cuba - 27
4 Libya - 30
5 Congo (Dem. Rep.) - 38
6 Venezuela - 38
7 Uzbekistan - 39
8 Iran - 39
9 Burma (Myanmar) - 39
10 China - 40

I also ran the program for everything crucial. I have heard that the US is exceptional, the greatest country on the planet, and the bestest ever place to live in the history of history. As such, of course, I was rather disappointed to see it ranked 7th.

 

[osan]

If I were to live in another country it would be Switzerland so it's nice to see them on the list at #2.

Meh - it's OK, but it is still filthy old Europe. My cousin and her hubby and kids live in Berne - they can have it, thanks all the same. I have family all over Europe - Finland, Sweden, Norway, France, Germany, Switzerland, Hungary, Romania, UK - couldn't pay me enough to live in any of those places. As bad as the USA is, as far as I am concerned these are worse, and that is really saying a lot.

If you want to go to CH, you'd damned better have a shit ton of money because it is stoopid-expensive there. My wife used to go there all the time for work and a small sandwish and some tea for lunch will set you back $30, and it just gets worse from there - try buying a house. My cousin and her husband are both big-shit MDs in Berne and living the good life but it costs them through the nose.

BTW I checked to see what the list would be like if everything was crucial:


Bottom 10:
9 Burma (Myanmar) - 39

If you set "limited government" as the only crucial, the rest to "don't care", Myanmar rates #1, which makes the above noted result call the value of this sheet into question. How can you have the most limited government on the planet when you are overall one of the least free places on earth? Something no addy uppy. It suggests that the "limited government" criterion is a relative measure and not made against a presumably rational standard. This implies that Myanmar is the most limited government in a sea of horrifically out of control governments, not a single one of them rising to the standard of "limited" that any of us would regard as reasonable. The authors would like to hear about bugs - perhaps someone here will alert them to this? No, it will not be me.

 

[KEEF]

But I thought the USA was the freest? That is why they hate us!

 

[Rudeman]

Meh - it's OK, but it is still filthy old Europe. My cousin and her hubby and kids live in Berne - they can have it, thanks all the same. I have family all over Europe - Finland, Sweden, Norway, France, Germany, Switzerland, Hungary, Romania, UK - couldn't pay me enough to live in any of those places. As bad as the USA is, as far as I am concerned these are worse, and that is really saying a lot.

If you want to go to CH, you'd damned better have a shit ton of money because it is stoopid-expensive there. My wife used to go there all the time for work and a small sandwish and some tea for lunch will set you back $30, and it just gets worse from there - try buying a house. My cousin and her husband are both big-shit MDs in Berne and living the good life but it costs them through the nose.

I have no plans of leaving anytime soon unless shit really gets bad (may decide to visit just to check it out). It being Europe isn't a big issue since I already live in California. Cost could be an issue though, does anyone know anything about Chile? Never thought about moving there before but maybe it might be a better option since I already know a decent amount of Spanish.

 

[jllundqu]

I would not live in Hong Kong... maybe Singapore.

Chile seems to be the place to be for me. I speak spanish, prefer the western/southern hemisphere, and find Chilean women to be the most beautiful in the world.

Maybe one day I will be an expat down there

 

[Lucille]

How is Chile? I hear great things about it, and besides, I'm already taking Spanish lessons on duolingo, so it seems the most convenient choice.

It's the new America.

There are two communities being built by libertarians down there:

http://galtsgulchchile.com/

Wendy McElroy and her husband bought a lot there recently.

And Simon Black's http://www.sovereignvalley.com/ , http://www.sovereignman.com/expat/so-why-chile-5342/

...who hosted a conference down there recently featuring:

www.sovereignman.com/expat/could-this-possibly-be-real-11510/

 

[jtstellar]

so where else has the right to arm yourself as a natural right besides the us and switzerland?

places that don't have it should fail instantly, disregarding any government sanctioned 'social' freedom they might have

 

[jllundqu]

so where else has the right to arm yourself as a natural right besides the us and switzerland?

places that don't have it should fail instantly, disregarding any government sanctioned 'social' freedom they might have

Agreed... anyplace that won't let you defend yourself is a non-starter

 

[Demigod]

so where else has the right to arm yourself as a natural right besides the us and switzerland?

places that don't have it should fail instantly, disregarding any government sanctioned 'social' freedom they might have

Switzerland does not have a right to arm yourself but you have to be a conscript and serve the military time ( however it is called in the USA ) after which you are granted a weapon to keep at home for military purposes only.

Many countries in the world don't have the right to arm them self's according to the law but in reality are really heavily armed,the clear example is every Balkan country.Switzerland is socially Nazi central.