Montana preparing to secede !

[american.swan]

Montana just needs to find some way to nuke the CFR and most of our current traitors in government then rejoin the union.

 

[faraway]

Ugh.. the pledge.. I had a group of first graders the other day (i'm a den leader for cub scouts) and asked them what the pledge meant. Noone knew. I asked what form of government we have? (it's stated in the pledge) Noone knew, except for one parent (got it spot-on, Constitutional Republic). Also asked if anyone knew what liberty meant. No clue. One parent said freedom, but then I went on to explain that it's much more than a word, it's a philosophy. And I tried to explain as best I could to a group of 6-year olds the philosophy of self-ownership & liberty. Ugh..

Anyways, I think this is where we need to try to make a difference. If you have children, get involved for craps sake and help "uneducate" these kids before we have another generation like our own.

Hi all,

Regarding the philosophy of Liberty, I found this the other day and I think its AWESOME. Its a fairly brief Flash presentation. Sorry if its been discussed already, if not, it should be spread far and wide (well, actually its been translated into umpteen languages already)

I hope you like it

http://www.jonathangullible.com/mmedia/PhilosophyOfLiberty-english_music.swf

 

[kirkblitz]

i am curious if montana would really go through with it, i hope they would be would they really? I dont see them expelling federal people from their state, just writing a strong protest.

 

[nate895]

i am curious if montana would really go through with it, i hope they would be would they really? I dont see them expelling federal people from their state, just writing a strong protest.

If they went through secession, they are a foreign country, I assume they will act as such.

 

[Sandra]

Admins! States are threatening to secede if the second amendment is apppealed in late spring ! Don't you think this is a little too big to be moved here? This is important breaking news that will affect other states and you BURY it!? Please put this back at Grassroots, it's hit 15 pages in just three hours!

 

[CurtisLow]

Admins! States are threatening to secede if the second amendment is apppealed in late spring ! Don't you think this is a little too big to be moved here? This is important breaking news that will affect other states and you BURY it!? Please put this back at Grassroots, it's hit 15 pages in just three hours!

I had the same thing happen to my very important post too.. = BS

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=119975

So much to try to get information out there...

 

[VaderM5]

this is great news! I know Vermont will join (see secession.net) and it is a law passed in Arizona legislature that it will secede if the 2nd amendment is abolished.

Great! So if they secede, McPain can't be president of the united states, right?

 

[fedup100]

the problem with secession is the violence that will ensue. This will no longer be bloodless...........I really dont want to see that happen in my childs lifetime.

It is already in the stars for your child whether you want it or not, it's either that or your child will live all the days of their life on their knees kissing the ass of the NWO.

Montana is booming because those in the know, who couldn't move out of country are moving in to Montana.

 

[Pauls' Revere]

Oh, Texas will be on that bandwagon, too--and maybe a couple of close neighbors with them.

Texas is even on it's own power grid separate from the rest of the nation which is either western (west of the mississippi or Eastern, East of the Mississippi). Gotta love Texas.

 

[fedup100]

Great! So if they secede, McPain can't be president of the united states, right?

Hope they do and we can pull the Lakota's and other states into it, then.....

guess who we CAN elect as the new Federations President.........PAUL!

 

[Pauls' Revere]

So the Montana Secretary of State is agreeing to secession if the second amendment is ruled against by the Supreme Court. The most militia minded state in the union, and they thought they would stay if ya take their guns away?


http://www.progunleaders.org

When will this ruling take place...I must stay informed! I'll move to Montana and help protect thier border.

 

[fedup100]

Texas is mad as hell about the Trans Texas Corridor that is going through Texas to Canada. Is the Corridor going through Montana?

I promise you it won't go through Montana and being a Texan, it won't go through there without bloodshed. Texas is lost to the Mexicans. Texas is a hostile landscape to try and survive off the land.

WA State /Oregon is the most ideal places to make a stand and to be self sufficient. Don't believe the poster about Wa State, it is paradise. Montana/ Wyoming is second choice and the most likely choice, they are pro freedom and most of the population is informed and armed. Wyoming sheriffs sued the IRS and won. The IRS cannot enter Wyoming without approval of a sheriff and that's not likely.

As far as the fed gov responding to secession.........if they can't handle Baghdad, what the hell are they gonna do with several million pissed off Americans that will have support from many varied countries and many people in other states. The time is now.....we need Paul to be the leader and set it up properly with gold and silver and a true organic constitution.

Now, things are getting interesting.

 

[fedup100]

Believe it or not, kids across America don't even put their hands on their chest nor chant the pledge anymore in the mornings, sometimes they don't even stand up and teachers don't do anything about it. I've been to so many schools because of moving, and it seems it's not a cool thing anymore, like as if people just don't care about it enough to lift their hands and open their mouths to utter at least a few words, something that they probably feel ashamed of doing since it was something they did when they were little.

The only treason being committed is the fed gov if it tries to breach its contract with a state and impose gun control on that state. There is so much treason going on in the current administration it is stunning,

 

[CurtisLow]

I promise you it won't go through Montana and being a Texan, it won't go through there without bloodshed. Texas is lost to the Mexicans. Texas is a hostile landscape to try and survive off the land.

WA State /Oregon is the most ideal places to make a stand and to be self sufficient. Don't believe the poster about Wa State, it is paradise. Montana/ Wyoming is second choice and the most likely choice, they are pro freedom and most of the population is informed and armed. Wyoming sheriffs sued the IRS and won. The IRS cannot enter Wyoming without approval of a sheriff and that's not likely.

As far as the fed gov responding to secession.........if they can't handle Baghdad, what the hell are they gonna do with several million pissed off Americans that will have support from many varied countries and many people in other states. The time is now.....we need Paul to be the leader and set it up properly with gold and silver and a true organic constitution.

Now, things are getting interesting.

What about Maine or NH?

 

[Flash]

http://www.republicofnh.org/ New Hampshire independence site (seems to be run by a RP fan if you look at his beliefs)

http://www.vermontrepublic.org/

 

[fedup100]

What about Maine or NH?

There is no serious movement in those states to do what Montana is threatening to do. NH primary has soured me on that state for sure. Vermont is beautiful but really too small. I believe if Montana does this, you will see a mass exodus of people to Montana. I mean it could be as large as 5 million. That will require a large area of land, Vermont does not have that. Montana was offering free land in the Eastern section, I bet that is all gone. Darn!!

Lot of Gris in Montana, I don't like Bears, but prefer that to rattlesnakes, killer bee's and Tornado's.....no Texas for me, I had 30 years of that heat and misery, no thanks.

Should this happen, how will they receive food and other needs like supplies, cars, furniture, steel, pet supplies, feed and farm supplies, clothes etc: from the other states, everything will be upside down and not business as usual. That is why I favor a place with good weather, lots of water and fish and wild fruits and berries. The Pacific Northwest is the best but is currently occupied by tree huggers, neocons and fascists.

 

[Sandra]

There is no serious movement in those states to do what Montana is threatening to do. NH primary has soured me on that state for sure. Vermont is beautiful but really too small. I believe if Montana does this, you will see a mass exodus of people to Montana. I mean it could be as large as 5 million. That will require a large area of land, Vermont does not have that. Montana was offering free land in the Eastern section, I bet that is all gone. Darn!!

Lot of Gris in Montana, I don't like Bears, but prefer that to rattlesnakes, killer bee's and Tornado's.....no Texas for me, I had 30 years of that heat and misery, no thanks.

Should this happen, how will they receive food and other needs like supplies, cars, furniture, steel, pet supplies, feed and farm supplies, clothes etc: from the other states, everything will be upside down and not business as usual. That is why I favor a place with good weather, lots of water and fish and wild fruits and berries. The Pacific Northwest is the best but is currently occupied by tree huggers, neocons and fascists.

Montana and Vermont conduct a great deal of trade with Canada.

 

[fedup100]

Montana and Vermont conduct a great deal of trade with Canada.

Couldn't Montana do the same since they border Canada? I think it would be necessary, but Canada could sanction them, after the fed gov demands it.....I mean embargo's like they have done to Cuba. That is why you need to be able to grow or make your basics for survival at first. It is hard to grow food in 6 feet of snow and 30 below.

 

[BuddyRey]

Did any of y'all go to school?

Don't you remember at the beginning of every school day where you would stand up by your desk, place your right hand over your heart, and say "I pledge allegiance to the Flag of the United States of America, and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all"?

The majority of the people would react as though a state trying to secede is treason to the rest of the US through this little pledge that has been drilled into their heads since early childhood.

That being said, I was home-schooled since 4th grade and haven't had to deal with it .

GO MONTANA!

Yeah, the pledge written by a committed National Socialist, that school children used to recite while giving the Fascist salute made famous by the Nazis, instead of the right hand over the heart we're familiar with now.

Hehe...just had to throw that trivia in there.

 

[Sandra]

It would be necessary to enter into a coop with neighbors, but most small farmers do this anyway in rural areas. We used to have 4 gardens and raise pigs and chickens. Our neighbor had a grist mill and dairy. We wanted for no food except for coffee and sugar. Ya GOT to have coffee!