Montana preparing to secede !

[nate895]

obviously you don't know anything about Jefferson Davis...

Hey, what's wrong with him?

 

[tamor]

When states signed to be a part if the USA, didn't they sign that they would not sucede ? I know that TX refused to remove the sucession clause from its constitution. Take a look at your state's constitution, and what it says about sucession.

 

[nate895]

When states signed to be a part if the USA, didn't they sign that they would not sucede ? I know that TX refused to remove the sucession clause from its constitution. Take a look at your state's constitution, and what it says about sucession.

Secession can be done by any state since they hold sovereignty, the Federal Government depends on the will of the states for its survival, and therefore no state can give up the right of secession.

 

[Sandra]

Non secession would not be possible to enforce. Military personell would be torn between loyalty to state and country.

 

[IcyPeaceMaker]

Each state is an individual soverign, and all are known as The United States.

Louisiana could use the same argument as Montana, here's the Louisiana Constitutional article dealing with The Right to Keep and Bear Arms.

§11. Right to Keep and Bear Arms

Section 11. The right of each citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged, but this provision shall not prevent the passage of laws to prohibit the carrying of weapons concealed on the person.

 

[nate895]

§11. Right to Keep and Bear Arms

Section 11. The right of each citizen to keep and bear arms shall not be abridged, but this provision shall not prevent the passage of laws to prohibit the carrying of weapons concealed on the person.

I don't like the but in that sentence.

 

[Captain America]

uh oh! If Montana took concrete steps to seceed, I believe there are 3 others waiting to jump on that bandwagon (Vemont, Tenn, S.C.). I think this is a very dangerous time in this nations history, and it isnt because of "islamofascists" either.

if something like this happened the president would most likely place the rest of america in total police state control

 

[clouds]

if something like this happened the president would most likely place the rest of america in total police state control

haham perhaps that is the plan O_O

 

[heath.whiteaker]

if something like this happened the president would most likely place the rest of america in total police state control

De Ja Vu....

If Montana did this I would relocate in a hurry.... They would have a new citizen.

 

[Sandra]

President Bush himself sent a brief supporting the ban to the Supreme Court.

http://www.denverpost.com/opinion/ci_8297300

 

[Sandra]

So Texas is now being told they must give up millions of acres of private land in order to build the Trans Texas corridor that will take business away from Texans. On top of that a ban on privately owned firearms is to take place shortly before. So this may be an attempt by the federal government to seize property with no resistance.

And they're trying this out in Texas? Are they crazy?

 

[christagious]

I have a feeling that Texas is on the verge of a revolution, they have plenty to be pissed about. You got wild immigration, the trans texas corridor and now the gov't trying to take away guns??

I guess them rednecks were right when they said "the South will rise again"

I'll be leaving Ohio when I find out a state decides to secede.

 

[CountryboyRonPaul]

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I'll be leaving Ohio when I find out a state decides to secede.

The south would welcome you with open arms

Actually Louisiana would almost definately stay with the Federal Govt. in this sort of situation, we're fairly dependant on handouts... Even though we have more oil coming off of our coast than any other state.

 

[Sandra]

I don't think the federal government wants this thing to go peacefully. How pissed off will a Ron Paul rally goer be with him railing against these things. McCain backs each one of the measures that Texas is against, so a McCain victory would be exceptionally suspicious.

 

[Anti Federalist]

the problem with secession is the violence that will ensue. This will no longer be bloodless...........I really dont want to see that happen in my childs lifetime.

And the alternative is?

A lifetime of submission and slavery?

No thanks. It would be nice if we could peacefully "opt out" but our loving fedgov will never allow that to happen. It seems independence is only allowed for Kosovars.

So fuck 'em and keep your powder dry boys, the time is getting short.

 

[kyleAF]

But what the hell is the US Govt going to do. Blow up Montana?

Montana actually has a nuclear arsenal, which is something that the Confederate states definitely did not have.

Russia would probably love it if Montana seceded, because the nukes would likely be pointed at D.C. instead of Moscow.

 

[kyleAF]

I see that Montana is in a RED zone.... Not good!

http://www.radmeters4u.com/list.htm

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Yea, that's because of all of their silos there. Moscow probably wouldn't have that much to worry about once Montana isn't taking marching orders from D.C. though.

 

[jonahtrainer]

Why would you go to South America, I didn't know of anyone suggesting that.

I am headed to Argentina for March to look at some property. If you agree with the Peak Oil premise then Argentina is perhaps the best place, far better than Montana for several reasons, to be located based on a logically derived cause and effect future reality.

 

[Sandra]

I want to remain in the states and fight for what we're losing.

 

[DealzOnWheelz]

anyone who leaves the states when the battle gets thick is a coward and never deserved their freedom in the first place