Mitt Romney: Take Down the Confederate Flag Immediately

[jonhowe]

Anyone who cares at all about ANY flag of ANY country has fallen victim to the disease of nationalism.

 

[jonhowe]

So? I'm not the thought police. Apparently you are. If the voters who live there want it down, they'll take it down....unless of course you prefer to give the federal government the power to ban symbols and monitor thought.

Who is saying it should be banned?

Decent people shouldn't fly it. A decent electorate would pressure their representatives to vote to take it down on state property.

I hope no one is calling for a ban. That's absurd.

 

[Carlybee]

Who is saying it should be banned?

Decent people shouldn't fly it. A decent electorate would pressure their representatives to vote to take it down on state property.

I hope no one is calling for a ban. That's absurd.

Obviously thats where it's headed. I'm not the morals and decency police either. Regardless of the symbolism of this flag, can anyone tell me how it is harming anything other than feelings?

 

[AuH20]

Anyone who cares at all about ANY flag of ANY country has fallen victim to the disease of nationalism.

In this particular case, the people who want the flag down have nefarious motives in mind. This is no longer about the flying of the flag. It's about raw power manifested at the federal level and the staunch defense of such abhorrent practices.

 

[Carlybee]

In this particular case, the people who want the flag down have nefarious motives in mind. This is no longer about the flag. It's about raw power manifested at the federal level.

But it's hurting people's feelings dude...even though it's over something that took place in the 1800s and no longer exists. The government needs to step in because apparently racist mass murderers are lurking in their mom's basements throughout the south and the flag is telling them to kill black people.

 

[TheTexan]

Decent people shouldn't fly it.

Yes, people who fly the Confederate flag are indecent individuals. And indecent Americans.

May the unions that bind these states together, forged from the deaths of more than 600,000 men, shall forever remain as strong as iron shackles around the legs and necks of these great United States.

Long live the United States of America.

 

[wizardwatson]

In this particular case, the people who want the flag down have nefarious motives in mind. This is no longer about the flying of the flag. It's about raw power manifested at the federal level and the staunch defense of such abhorrent practices.

Nefarious motives indeed.

I used to have a general lee toy car. I loved it. I think it was the color, and looking back maybe that's why I want a Charger more than any other car.

 

[AuH20]

Nefarious motives indeed.

Nascar outlawed the General Lee at any preracing events. Even they caved.

 

[AuH20]

Yes, people who fly the Confederate flag are indecent individuals. And indecent Americans.

May the unions that bind these states together, forged from the deaths of more than 600,000 men, shall forever remain as strong as iron shackles around the legs and necks of these great United States.

Long live the United States of America.

http://leagueofthesouth.com/take-it-down-and-keep-it-flying/

Everywhere leftists are calling for the removal of the Confederate battle flag, especially at the State House in Columbia, SC.

We in The League of the South agree that a flag should be taken down. Not the most recognizable historic flag of the South but the flag of our occupiers for the last 150 years. Yes, the one to the far right over there! That ugly gridiron now stands for multiculturalism, tolerance, and diversity–the left’s unholy trinity. It also stands for Bruce/Caitlyn Jenner, Rachel Dolezal, and every other fraud and pervert who is held up as an example of “courage” in 2015 America. It represents the homosexual agenda, open borders and Third World immigration, a culture that is an open sewer, perpetual war for perpetual profit, among many other enormities.

In sharp contrast, our beautiful battle flag (near right, of course!) stands for the heroic effort our people made 150 years ago to avoid the fate were are experiencing today. And, God willing, it will be the banner that flies over the fight that gains us our liberty in the 21st century!

Michael Hill

Can't disagree with him there. The CSA flag may have more dignity than our current flag.

 

[wizardwatson]

Nascar outlawed the General Lee at any preracing events. Even they caved.

It's all retarded. The banks are the real slave owners. That's why Lincoln was in such a pickle. Ending slavery bankrupted the South.

Imagine if today Obama declared that all land between the rocky mountains and the Mississippi would be returned to the Native Americans. There would be war. It's the same thing. It was about money. The bankers could have financed a solution that involved buying out the slaves but they didn't. War and poverty makes for great buying opportunities.

They should keep the flag until America gets it in its head what really happened in that war.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Anyone who cares at all about ANY flag of ANY country has fallen victim to the disease of nationalism.

Indeed. One of the chief purposes of States is to bind people togetther in arbitrary and non-consensual union, and "nationalistic" symbols - especially flags - are indispensible to this purpose ...

Who is saying it should be banned?

Decent people shouldn't fly it. A decent electorate would pressure their representatives to vote to take it down on state property.

I hope no one is calling for a ban. That's absurd.

Unfortunately, this is an issue that involves "public" spaces (such as statehouse flagpoles). If it was merely a matter of what private persons chose to do with private pieces of colored cloth and private flagpoles, the "solution" to the "problem" would be as simple as it is obvious. Indeed, there wouldn't even be a "problem" to begin with - or if there was, it would not be nearly so magnified and amplified as it is (and would be much more localized and "contained" than it is) with the State involved.

Just as with virtually everything the State touches, something that would otherwise be non-problematic (or not-nearly-as-problematic) becomes a major point of vitriolic contention. You can observe exactly the same phenomenon in many other areas - such as evolution vs. creationism in "public" schools, to cite just one example. No matter what happens in any of these State-tainted issues, one "side" is going to find the outcome detestable and intolerable, and will seek to use the State to "correct" the matter in their favor - thereby setting off yet another round of battles in an interminable State-fostered tug-of-war ...

As for my own opinion regarding the display of the Confederate flag in "public" venues, I am essentially indifferent. Howerver, I must confess that I can't help but roll my eyes with impatient & contemptuous disgust when I see so many people reflexively howling & spluttering with "outrage" because some particular rag is being (or might no longer be) run up some particular "public" flagpole somewhere, while many of those same people have few if any problems with my money being forcibly extracted from me in order to make bombs to drop on innocent people on the other side of the world - or to force children to attend government indoctrination centers - or to give it to politically favored corporations that couldn't cut it in the marketplace - or to lock people up in cages for using the "wrong" drugs - or etc., etc., ad nauseam ...

 

[Origanalist]

Indeed. One of the chief purposes of States is to bind people togetther in arbitrary and non-consensual union, and "nationalistic" symbols - especially flags - are indispensible to this purpose ...



Unfortunately, this is an issue that involves "public" spaces (such as statehouse flagpoles). If it was merely a matter of what private persons chose to do with private pieces of colored cloth and private flagpoles, the "solution" to the "problem" would be as simple as it is obvious. Indeed, there wouldn't even be a "problem" to begin with - or if there was, it would not be nearly so magnified and amplified as it is (and would be much more localized and "contained" than it is) with the State involved.

Just as with virtually everything the State touches, something that would otherwise be non-problematic (or not-nearly-as-problematic) becomes a major point of vitriolic contention. You can observe exactly the same phenomenon in many other areas - such as evolution vs. creationism in "public" schools, to cite just one example. No matter what happens in any of these State-tainted issues, one "side" is going to find the outcome detestable and intolerable, and will seek to use the State to "correct" the matter in their favor - thereby setting off yet another round of battles in an interminable State-fostered tug-of-war ...

As for my own opinion regarding the display of the Confederate flag in "public" venues, I am essentially indifferent. Howerver, I must confess that I can't help but roll my eyes with impatient & contemptuous disgust when I see so many people reflexively howling & spluttering with "outrage" because some particular rag is being (or might no longer be) run up some particular "public" flagpole somewhere, while many of those same people have few if any problems with my money being forcibly extracted from me in order to make bombs to drop on innocent people on the other side of the world - or to force children to attend government indoctrination centers - or to give it to politically favored corporations that couldn't cut it in the marketplace - or to lock people up in cages for using the "wrong" drugs - or etc., etc., ad nauseam ...

The hypocrisy is astounding.

 

[PRB]

Not a Confederate flag to be seen.

Let me help you.

This was in Florida 1964

Just because the Klan has used it, doesn't mean it's a symbol of hate. Just because Klan groups use it today, doesn't mean it's a symbol of hate.

Instances of rebel flags flown in the 60s by KKK people many not be common, but they existed, probably more prevalent than finding black confederate soldiers in the war.

 

[DevilsAdvocate]

Anyone who cares at all about ANY flag of ANY country has fallen victim to the disease of nationalism.

In my opinion some brand loyalty is a good thing. But nationalism is mostly used to raise a healthy crop of soldiers bound to the state. How do you get people to fight and die for your country? Nationalism. It's an extremely powerful and successful survival strategy used by various nations since ancient times.

Once you understand a problem, you can fix it.

 

[Badger Paul]

Cry us a river.

Indeed, he lost twice largely because of this crap.

 

[Brett85]

Can I hate both sides?

Yes, that's what I said in another post, that both sides were evil. There's no reason why anyone should even pick a side.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pwLMUkkyXPo

 

[Carlybee]

To those who believe the flag should be removed...if you drive through Georgia and a lot of the Carolinas, there are confederate flags all over the place in people's yards. Should public opinion demand those be removed as well? I mean, they are conceivably just as offensive, no?

 

[Southron]

Yes, that's what I said in another post, that both sides were evil. There's no reason why anyone should even pick a side.

Obviously the winning side feels threatened by the display of the Battle flag though. I wonder why that is?

 

[jonhowe]

In this particular case, the people who want the flag down have nefarious motives in mind. This is no longer about the flying of the flag. It's about raw power manifested at the federal level and the staunch defense of such abhorrent practices.

What is my nefarious motive?


(A: To not rub salt in the wounds of others.)