MITHRAS = CHRISTIANITY?

[Ronin Truth]

OP had 6 numbered points. If I was inspired enough to be aggravated by the thread then I would start there.

FWIW, I would too.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Or are you really celebrating the birthdays of several pagan deities, while Satan laughs his ass off every year?

If that's the case, then you are arguing against Roman Catholicism, not Christianity, and in that respect I agree with you.

 

[moostraks]

You have never even claimed Christ as your Savior and Lord, moostraks. Never put it in print. You post bible verses, with no context. What is your statement of faith for Christ? And yet, you continue to judge and manipulate the words of faith of true Christians.

Ronin loves the attention these threads provide him and I think you do, too.

This is more of your theatrics, not mine.

That I have done as you are demanding a number of times does not entitle you to deny me my faith, yet again.

True Christians are known by their fruit, not because they bully other people and not just because they make outward claims.

The bible verses I use are always relevant to the discussion and I often provide no commentary so as to allow the reader to deal with wiser authors than I feel myself in need to elaborate further. I am stunned at those who want the Bible as a final authority get so twisted over having to deal with it in a response back to one's own pontifications.

~~~peace

 

[Ronin Truth]

If that's the case, then you are arguing against Roman Catholicism, not Christianity, and in that respect I agree with you.

The Empire was the one that hijacked the Jesus movement and killed a slew of his original and later followers. States AND their official religions are both ruled and controlled by Satan. RCC history provides all of the required and necessary evidence.

"By their fruits, ye shall know them."
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So what are we arguing about?

 

[Ronin Truth]

You have never even claimed Christ as your Savior and Lord, moostraks. Never put it in print. You post bible verses, with no context. What is your statement of faith for Christ? And yet, you continue to judge and manipulate the words of faith of true Christians.

Ronin loves the attention these threads provide him and I think you do, too.

I can get along very well without any of the attention. I find it largely to just be a real pain in the patoot.

That is why I continually argue that, I AM NOT THE THREAD TOPIC.

But have it your way, if it makes it any easier for you to get through the night. Whatever.

"Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people."

 

[Sola_Fide]

The Empire was the one that hijacked the Jesus movement and killed a slew of his original and later followers. States AND their official religions are both ruled and controlled by Satan. RCC history provides all of the required and necessary evidence.

"By their fruits, ye shall know them."
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So what are we arguing about?

Big deal. They hijacked it. Who cares? They weren't successful in stamping out true Christianity. It exists today. True Christianity rejects the paganism of these other religions.

 

[Ronin Truth]

Big deal. They hijacked it. Who cares? They weren't successful in stamping out true Christianity. It exists today. True Christianity rejects the paganism of these other religions.

When the world today hears the word "Christian", what religion is most usually being thought of and first comes to mind?

Paulinism.

 

[Sola_Fide]

When the world today hears the word "Christian", what religion is most usually being thought of and first comes to mind?

Paulinism.

What Jesus, Paul, and the rest of the apostles preached is Christianity. All of this other garbage you bring up about December 25th and these other things are not Christian and wasn't what the apostles preached.

 

[moostraks]

What Jesus, Paul, and the rest of the apostles preached is Christianity. All of this other garbage you bring up about December 25th and these other things are not Christian and wasn't what the apostles preached.

So Christmas Day isn't your petty issue to argue, yet you weight people with a thousand other equally as petty discussion points that you then choose to exclude them from the faith should they disagree by one iota, which is then followed by some scathing retort on how loving you are by judging them unworthy of your god.

 

[Ronin Truth]

What Jesus, Paul, and the rest of the apostles preached is Christianity. All of this other garbage you bring up about December 25th and these other things are not Christian and wasn't what the apostles preached.

Spoken exactly as a true Paulinista would.

You are blatantly and repeatedly arguing against your Bible, yet once again.

They are according to Paul, who bragged about saying whatever was necessary to win pagan converts to HIS gospel, and not that of Jesus.

Silly Sola_Fide post score +1.

 

[moostraks]

You have never even claimed Christ as your Savior and Lord, moostraks. Never put it in print. You post bible verses, with no context. What is your statement of faith for Christ? And yet, you continue to judge and manipulate the words of faith of true Christians.

Ronin loves the attention these threads provide him and I think you do, too.

Here found you my most recent one iirc, since you folks are always playing this game about my faith. It was on September 24:

This is my faith in that:

1John 4:7Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. 8The one who does not love does not know God, for God is love. 9By this the love of God was manifested in us, that God has sent His only begotten Son into the world so that we might live through Him. 10In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins. 11Beloved, if God so loved us, we also ought to love one another. 12No one has seen God at any time; if we love one another, God abides in us, and His love is perfected in us. 13By this we know that we abide in Him and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit. 14We have seen and testify that the Father has sent the Son to be the Savior of the world.


15Whoever confesses that Jesus is the Son of God, God abides in him, and he in God. 16We have come to know and have believed the love which God has for us. God is love, and the one who abides in love abides in God, and God abides in him. 17By this, love is perfected with us, so that we may have confidence in the day of judgment; because as He is, so also are we in this world. 18There is no fear in love; but perfect love casts out fear, because fear involves punishment, and the one who fears is not perfected in love. 19We love, because He first loved us. 20If someone says, “I love God,” and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen. 21And this commandment we have from Him, that the one who loves God should love his brother also.

I am sick of continually dealing with people who wish to rehash this argument so they can derail any religious discussion I should have the audacity to participate in even if I had no interest in doing more than intervene and lessen another person's frustration off topic to the religious arguments at play.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Spoken exactly as a true Paulinista would.

You are blatantly and repeatedly arguing against your Bible, yet once again.

They are according to Paul, who bragged about saying whatever was necessary to win pagan converts to HIS gospel, and not that of Jesus.

Silly Sola_Fide post score +1.

No. I'm taking the Bible as absolute truth. I'm not arguing against it.

Paul interchanged the words "the gospel" and "my gospel". There is no difference between them.

 

[Ronin Truth]

Here found you my most recent one iirc, since you folks are always playing this game about my faith. It was on September 24:



I am sick of continually dealing with people who wish to rehash this argument so they can derail any religious discussion I should have the audacity to participate in even if I had no interest in doing more than intervene and lessen another person's frustration off topic to the religious arguments at play.

Sounds like you may fully understand why I often consider this forum to be merely another snake pit.

 

[Ronin Truth]

No. I'm taking the Bible as absolute truth. I'm not arguing against it.

Paul interchanged the words "the gospel" and "my gospel". There is no difference between them.

Then why not ALWAYS refer to it as Jesus' gospel? After all HE'S the deity, not Paul.

Silly Sola_Fide post score +1.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Then why not ALWAYS refer to it as Jesus' gospel? After all HE'S the deity, not Paul.

Silly Sola_Fide post score +1.

It doesn't matter because it is the same thing. There is no difference between Paul saying "my gospel" and "the gospel". There was only one gospel in the Bible.

Is this one of your "contradictions"? lol

 

[Eagles' Wings]

Here found you my most recent one iirc, since you folks are always playing this game about my faith. It was on September 24:



I am sick of continually dealing with people who wish to rehash this argument so they can derail any religious discussion I should have the audacity to participate in even if I had no interest in doing more than intervene and lessen another person's frustration off topic to the religious arguments at play.

You have permission to stop rescuing those you think are being persecuted. Give it a rest, moostraks, because then you won't continually feel sick.

 

[erowe1]

OP had 6 numbered points. If I was inspired enough to be aggravated by the thread then I would start there.

Did you see a single claim that was made in the OP that was supported with any evidence at all? I didn't.

Given that fact, what is there to rebut?

You can take any of those 6 assertions and just assert the exact opposite, and your opposite assertions will be every bit as well-founded as the assertions made in the OP.

 

[erowe1]

I figure from all the Paul stuff that DOESN'T MATCH and contradicts Jesus, that he must have gotten it from somewhere.

Mithra could be a very likely candidate, given his background.

Can you find a single example of anything at all anywhere in any of Paul's writings that reflects any influence by Mithraism at all?

 

[erowe1]

When the world today hears the word "Christian", what religion is most usually being thought of and first comes to mind?

Paulinism.

What is something Paulinism teaches?

 

[moostraks]

You have permission to stop rescuing those you think are being persecuted. Give it a rest, moostraks, because then you won't continually feel sick.

Or some of you could refrain from constantly ignoring responses you received to misconstrue or out and out lie about another person, in order to interject yourselves as holier than thou control freaks anytime those you have decided to condemn dare to speak. There is that option ya know...

I don't think I should have to refrain from all discussion because you cannot control yourself.