[Milei WINS!] Javier Milei, Austrian econ. prof. & ancap, runs for president of Argentina

God bless your heart if you actually believe that. The man is being used for something and I am not exactly sure what it is. We are all acting like the WEF didnt do their research and were just completely shocked by the role the pretends to play in politics.

We finally have a guy on the international stage saying literally all the right things from our perspective. He is remarkably invoking the names of Mises, Hayek, and Rothbard in a way that no other person in global politics has since Ron Paul and - forgive me, here - has managed to gain significantly more prominence than Ron in that he actually won an election to head of state, in a economically devastated country. And somehow, people on our side are suspicious of his motives? And when - inevitably - TPTB come in and undermine him or overthrow him, this will then become further confirmation that he was all along a globalist plant.

I'm not sure how people like you get out of bed in the morning. Every defeat is a defeat, and every victory is a defeat. Must be a miserable way to walk through life.
 
God bless your heart if you actually believe that. The man is being used for something and I am not exactly sure what it is. We are all acting like the WEF didnt do their research and were just completely shocked by the role the pretends to play in politics.

We're not acting like anything. We're watching the actions of the WEF and Javier Milei. You can't really criticize Javier Milei until he actually does something worth criticizing. If you find something, tell us.
 
We finally have a guy on the international stage saying literally all the right things from our perspective. He is remarkably invoking the names of Mises, Hayek, and Rothbard in a way that no other person in global politics has since Ron Paul and - forgive me, here - has managed to gain significantly more prominence than Ron in that he actually won an election to head of state, in a economically devastated country. And somehow, people on our side are suspicious of his motives? And when - inevitably - TPTB come in and undermine him or overthrow him, this will then become further confirmation that he was all along a globalist plant.

I'm not sure how people like you get out of bed in the morning. Every defeat is a defeat, and every victory is a defeat. Must be a miserable way to walk through life.

Its not that awful being me, I do take pleasure in the small genuine victories in life. A municipal bond is defeated, that's a victory, getting the local hospital to drop their vaccine mandates, that is another victory. With Milei, I will just watch and see if my suspicions are true. If not, then I will join the cheerleaders on this site to sing his praises.

Speeches at WEF does absolutely nothing for me, removing a bunch of useless but insignificant govt employees is good but as an anarch cap, he could do much better. I wanna see how much of the budget he cuts and how much of it comes from the defense, pharma and intelligence sector.
 
We're not acting like anything. We're watching the actions of the WEF and Javier Milei. You can't really criticize Javier Milei until he actually does something worth criticizing. If you find something, tell us.

I am watching, his support for Ukraine and the Israeli govt is concerning but its not the smoking gun I was expecting to condemn him. But I will surely post more when he slips up. I know he will slip up.
 
Yes, but what will you post if he does cut defense to the bone, and pharma completely out?
 
Its not that awful being me, I do take pleasure in the small genuine victories in life. A municipal bond is defeated, that's a victory, getting the local hospital to drop their vaccine mandates, that is another victory. With Milei, I will just watch and see if my suspicions are true. If not, then I will join the cheerleaders on this site to sing his praises.

Speeches at WEF does absolutely nothing for me, removing a bunch of useless but insignificant govt employees is good but as an anarch cap, he could do much better. I wanna see how much of the budget he cuts and how much of it comes from the defense, pharma and intelligence sector.

Well, Javier Milei isn't an Anarcho-capitalist so prepare to be disappointed. The rest of us will celebrate each victory he has in reducing the size of government and we'll criticize his missteps that contradict that.
 
... I wanna see how much of the budget he cuts ...

Milei is not a dictator. He does not have absolute control to cut what he wants. He has to work with a legislative body from which his party is a small minority. That said, Milei has come out swinging.

Argentine President Javier Milei's "omnibus" bill, a sprawling reform package ranging from tax hikes to privatizations, has cleared its first hurdle in Congress with a green light from a lower house committee. It now faces far tougher obstacles.

The bill, part of a major push to reshape the South American country's embattled economy, will require majority approval from lawmakers in both chambers of Congress, where Milei's own libertarian coalition only holds a small minority of seats.

It is a key plank of Milei's reform plans since taking office last month, aimed at reviving the fortunes of South America's no. 2 economy, which is battling inflation over 200%, high poverty levels and crippling public debt.

As part of the bill, the government would privatize a raft of public firms - though it has backtracked on selling off state energy firm YPF (YPFD.BA), opens new tab - and introduce a broad 15% tax on most exports, with top export soy and its derivatives rising to 33% from 31%.

The lengthy legislation faces a debate in the lower chamber of deputies next week, with some conservative and moderate blocs in Congress supportive, though often with conditions, while more left-leaning lawmakers are generally opposed.

Milei's right-wing coalition has only 15% of the seats in the lower house and 10% in the Senate, but he has allied with the main conservative bloc and brought a range of political voices into his government.

"Many of us have the will to accompany the government and help it in the necessary reforms to get the country out of this crisis," Radical Civic Union lawmaker Martin Tetaz said, according to a read-out of the lower house committee debate.

"But we are convinced that these reforms cannot be done at the expense of austerity on retirees, cannot include increases in taxes on production and, much less, on exports."

The official Peronist bloc, the main opposition, was more forthright in their plans to try to knock down the bill.

"As a bloc we are going to express our rejection," said the head of the Union por la Patria coalition German Martinez, adding he expected other political parties to join them.
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https://www.reuters.com/world/ameri...ntlet-after-clearing-first-hurdle-2024-01-25/
 
Its not that awful being me, I do take pleasure in the small genuine victories in life. A municipal bond is defeated, that's a victory, getting the local hospital to drop their vaccine mandates, that is another victory. With Milei, I will just watch and see if my suspicions are true. If not, then I will join the cheerleaders on this site to sing his praises.

Speeches at WEF does absolutely nothing for me, removing a bunch of useless but insignificant govt employees is good but as an anarch cap, he could do much better. I wanna see how much of the budget he cuts and how much of it comes from the defense, pharma and intelligence sector.

Letting the perfect be the enemy of the good... exactly why we always sit on the sidelines.
 
Well, Javier Milei isn't an Anarcho-capitalist so prepare to be disappointed. The rest of us will celebrate each victory he has in reducing the size of government and we'll criticize his missteps that contradict that.

The man is a self-described anarcho-capitalist, this is not something his enemies call him. Sorry but I would like to see him act like one. Instead, he goes around supporting statists like Zelensky who forcibly conscripts citizens to fight in a war, a man who ban certain Christian churches. The man cant even be honest to himself.
 
Letting the perfect be the enemy of the good... exactly why we always sit on the sidelines.

Its not about getting perfection, even Ron Paul was not perfect. The point is getting someone who I believe is not a controlled opposition. I hope I am wrong but just like Trump, the man is sus as hell.
 
Meaning what specifically?

Essentially, it's a political movement that reoccupies itself with the supremacy and protection of the state of Israel even to the detriment of their own country. There's more to it but this is a simple definition of the word.
 
Essentially, it's a political movement that reoccupies itself with the supremacy and protection of the state of Israel even to the detriment of their own country. There's more to it but this is a simple definition of the word.

And how does this apply to Milei?
 
And how does this apply to Milei?

I mean, he has put out statement support Israel in the battle with the Palestinians. But also, on his first trip to the US as the new president of Argentina, the first this he did was to visit the tomb of the Zionist Rabbi in NY. Isn't that a bit odd for a catholic man to do on his first trip to the US.

Please do your own research and stop asking me every single question.
 
I mean, he has put out statement support Israel in the battle with the Palestinians. But also, on his first trip to the US as the new president of Argentina, the first this he did was to visit the tomb of the Zionist Rabbi in NY. Isn't that a bit odd for a catholic man to do on his first trip to the US.

Please do your own research and stop asking me every single question.

It's true that Javier Milei supports Zionism, but Milei, to my knowledge, hasn't committed any of Argentina's military troops, weaponry, or treasury to Israel.
 
Well, Javier Milei isn't an Anarcho-capitalist [...]

He is an anarcho-capitalist. He even explicitly describes himself as one.

Milei is not a dictator. He does not have absolute control to cut what he wants. He has to work with a legislative body from which his party is a small minority. [...]

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The man is a self-described anarcho-capitalist, this is not something his enemies call him. Sorry but I would like to see him act like one. Instead, he goes around supporting statists like Zelensky who forcibly conscripts citizens to fight in a war, a man who ban certain Christian churches. The man cant even be honest to himself.

He is an anarcho-capitalist. He even explicitly describes himself as one.

Oh damn. He did call himself an anarcho-capitalist. My bad.

I really question if he's really an anarcho-capitalist -- now that he's in power.
 
I mean, he has put out statement support Israel in the battle with the Palestinians. But also, on his first trip to the US as the new president of Argentina, the first this he did was to visit the tomb of the Zionist Rabbi in NY. Isn't that a bit odd for a catholic man to do on his first trip to the US.

Please do your own research and stop asking me every single question.

So then, using your own definition of zionism, you are not aware of anything Milei has done that fits that definition.
 
Its not about getting perfection, even Ron Paul was not perfect. The point is getting someone who I believe is not a controlled opposition. I hope I am wrong but just like Trump, the man is sus as hell.

For the record, I couldn't care less if he's a Zionist, or if he supports Ukraine... if he were the president of the US, that would be a concern merely because it would likely mean financial and military support of those countries. But he is the leader of Argentina. Their economy is currently in a shambles. Speaking in favor of Israel and Ukraine is just lip-service. If Argentina does ANYTHING to support those countries... I mean, he could *probably* send them like a box of .22 rounds and a gift card to Target.
 
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