Rick Santorum may not be eligible? Santorum refuses to provide proof of his eligibility to be president.

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No question Santorum was born in the US, no one wants to see his birth certificate but since his father is an Italian immigrant he had to be a naturalized US citizen at the time of his birth for Santorum to be a natural-born citizen and to be eligible for president.

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Many, many contacts over several months by many people to Rick Santorum’s campaign offices by telephone, letters, and email … and even to his home address in VA via registered postal mail with questions about how, where, and when his father Aldo Santorum [who was born in Italy to non-U.S. Citizen parents] became a US. Citizen, have gone unanswered. Rick it is a simple question and the public has the right to know. When did your immigrant father who came to the USA naturalize? Provide a copy of the paperwork of same to the American electorate. Rick Santorum has been asked repeatedly to provide copies to the public of his father’s Citizenship papers.

The questions to Rick Santorum have gone repeatedly ignored and unanswered. Why? This evasive behavior on this subject by Rick Santorum reminds me of the same type of behavior by Marco Rubio. See the prior story about Marco Rubio and ultimately what we learned as to why he was evading answering the citizenship status of his parents and when they became U.S. Citizens in relation to Marco’s birth date here.

The opinion (written by Chief Justice Morrison Waite) first asked whether Minor was a citizen of the United States, and answered that she was, citing both the Fourteenth Amendment and earlier common law. Exploring the common-law origins of citizenship, the court observed that "new citizens may be born or they may be created by naturalization" and that the Constitution "does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens." Under the common law, according to the court, "it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners."
US Supreme Court case Minor v. Happersett, 88 U.S. 162 (1875),
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minor_v._Happersett
 
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Doesn't matter, what matters is if HE IS BORN HERE. Doesn't matter where his parents are born, he has to be born here.
 
Doesn't matter, what matters is if HE IS BORN HERE. Doesn't matter where his parents are born, he has to be born here.

This is absolutely untrue. Both parents have to be citizens at the time of birth to be a "natural born" citizen.
 
why doesnt frothy just show them proof instead of not answering?

or does he have something to hide..? if he is a natural born citizen, then he relly has nothing to hide.. by doing this it just makes people want to question his legit status, well, those that arnt tranced by his religion pandering...
 
No question Santorum was born in the US, no one wants to see his birth certificate but since his father is an Italian immigrant he had to be a naturalized US citizen at the time of his birth for Santorum to be a natural-born citizen and to be eligible for president.
Nah, I'd say you were assuming too much from the wording of that ruling. It says that those people are natural born citizens, not that there can't be other types of natural born citizens. Also, it doesn't stand up to history as Chester A. Arthur took office just five years after that ruling, his father being Irish and not naturalized when Chester was born.
 
why doesnt frothy just show them proof instead of not answering?

or does he have something to hide..? if he is a natural born citizen, then he relly has nothing to hide.. by doing this it just makes people want to question his legit status, well, those that arnt tranced by his religion pandering...
Because it doesn't matter if his father was a citizen. It might matter to certain people that aren't legal scholars trying to read judgements, but it doesn't matter to the courts, it didn't matter to Chester Arthur, and it didn't matter to Barack Obama.
 
....but it doesn't matter to the courts, it didn't matter to Chester Arthur, and it didn't matter to Barack Obama.

If it doesn't matter, then the constitution doesn't matter either. If the founders thought it okay that any citizen could be president, they would have left out "natural born". Natural born is in there because it actually means something...
 
If it doesn't matter, then the constitution doesn't matter either. If the founders thought it okay that any citizen could be president, they would have left out "natural born". Natural born is in there because it actually means something...
According to what? In the ruling that people keep citing, they are simply stating who is unquestionably natural born, not who else might also be natural born.

From a libertarian perspective, why shouldn't anyone be able to govern the country if they've got the right ethics, ideology, principles? I'd take Mises over Romney.

From a pragmatic perspective, why should Rick Santorum care about addressing an issue that probably less than one hundredth of one percent care about?

From a legal perspective, it sure didn't stop Chester Arthur.
 
The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts. It is sufficient for everything we have now to consider that all children born of citizen parents within the jurisdiction are themselves citizens. The words "all children" are certainly as comprehensive, when used in this connection, as "all persons," and if females are included in the last they must be in the first. That they are included in the last is not denied. In fact the whole argument of the plaintiffs proceeds upon that idea.

They cite doubts, but do not say that someone with a non-citizen parent can't be a natural-born citizen.
 
They will probably allow anyone born anywhere in this empire to be a natural born citizen.
 
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