Massie endorses DeSantis for President

[jmdrake]

https://thenewamerican.com/freedom-index/legislator/d000621/

Massie can't be ignorant of how bad DS's record is.

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[TH] 67% [/TH]
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It was getting worse not better.

Thank you for posting this [MENTION=660]LibertyEagle[/MENTION], but is there a chart that shows how Trump ranks on an apples to apples comparison? Take this vote on "Repeal and Replace Obamacare."

https://thenewamerican.com/freedom-index/vote/2017h256/

Rather than voting to repeal ObamaCare, the House voted instead to retain much of ObamaCare under the guise of “repeal and replace.” The legislation (H.R. 1628), known as the American Health Care Act (AHCA), was strongly backed by President Trump and the Republican congressional leadership. Consequently most Republicans voted for the bill, but 20 voted against it. Liberty-minded Representative Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) noted that the AHCA entailed “replacing mandates, subsidies and penalties with mandates, subsidies and penalties.” Another Republican lawmaker, Representative Andy Biggs (Ariz.), while “applaud[ing] all the hard work of the House Freedom Caucus, which has made every effort … to improve this legislation,” nonetheless concluded that the “final bill … does not meet the promises I made to my constituents.” Biggs added, “I remain committed to a full repeal of ObamaCare.”
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The also dinged Desantis for a vote "Strengthening State and Local Cyber Crime Fighting Act of 2017."

https://thenewamerican.com/freedom-index/vote/2017h258/

But Trump ultimately signed that bill.

https://www.c4isrnet.com/workforce/...ber-training-for-state-local-law-enforcement/

So where's Trump's freedom index?

 

[vita3]

“He wants McConnell's Senate seat.
Which may tell us something about why he is on the DS bandwagon”

What a liar you’ve become, to defend the Donald.

Pathetic

 

[CaptUSA]

He wants McConnell's Senate seat.
Which may tell us something about why he is on the DS bandwagon.

Disgusting. Do you realize how pathetic this is?? You are suggesting that the absolute BEST Congressman in the US, probably the best statesman, is guided by ambition over his principles. All because he is supporting the competition to your orange hero.

I would be more than thrilled to have Massie in the Senate, but having him in the House that his party controls is powerful. We saw what happened when Massie tried to hold the government to account and we saw how your hero treated him. Trump's actions were disgraceful. If Trump is reaping what he sowed, you shouldn't be attacking the integrity of one of the best defenders we've got.

 

[acptulsa]

Which may tell us something...

Us? Nothing tells "us" anything. Cult cucks don't see and hear the same things the rest of us do.

 

[Matt Collins]

DeSantis has been a much better Governor than Congressman. Not perfect, but still the best Governor in the US at present. Also, Thomas has no desire to run for the Senate seat. That could change, but he is pretty happy where he is at... for better or worse.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Thank you for posting this [MENTION=660]LibertyEagle[/MENTION], but is there a chart that shows how Trump ranks on an apples to apples comparison? Take this vote on "Repeal and Replace Obamacare."

https://thenewamerican.com/freedom-index/vote/2017h256/

Rather than voting to repeal ObamaCare, the House voted instead to retain much of ObamaCare under the guise of “repeal and replace.” The legislation (H.R. 1628), known as the American Health Care Act (AHCA), was strongly backed by President Trump and the Republican congressional leadership. Consequently most Republicans voted for the bill, but 20 voted against it. Liberty-minded Representative Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) noted that the AHCA entailed “replacing mandates, subsidies and penalties with mandates, subsidies and penalties.” Another Republican lawmaker, Representative Andy Biggs (Ariz.), while “applaud[ing] all the hard work of the House Freedom Caucus, which has made every effort … to improve this legislation,” nonetheless concluded that the “final bill … does not meet the promises I made to my constituents.” Biggs added, “I remain committed to a full repeal of ObamaCare.”
​

The also dinged Desantis for a vote "Strengthening State and Local Cyber Crime Fighting Act of 2017."

https://thenewamerican.com/freedom-index/vote/2017h258/

But Trump ultimately signed that bill.

https://www.c4isrnet.com/workforce/...ber-training-for-state-local-law-enforcement/

So where's Trump's freedom index?

Yeah, I'm not saying Trump is Mr. Freedom. He wouldn't know if the Constitution hit him up side of the head, in my opinion. But, I'd take him over a Bush-neocon. I haven't made my mind up about DeSantis yet. I am totally open to reading anything you have to show me. Thanks for linking to what you already have.

 

[LibertyEagle]

He wants McConnell's Senate seat.
Which may tell us something about why he is on the DS bandwagon.

I really don't think Massie plays that game. I really do not. He's the closest thing to Ron Paul that is currently in D.C..

 

[Matt Collins]

I really don't think Massie plays that game. I really do not. He's the closest thing to Ron Paul that is currently in D.C..

Thomas is better than Ron because not only does he maintain his ideological integrity like Ron, but he is also a lot more functional and effective than Ron ever was. Thomas is a fighter and knows how and is willing to make maneuvers that Ron never would. It's really a personality difference more than anything. But it makes it so that Thomas is getting a lot more done for the cause than Ron did, even if those benefits tend to be behind the scenes.

 

[Mordan]

I'm tired of "maybes" on foreign policy.. Obama was a maybe. DeSantis' funding sources and voting record in congress are absolutely atrocious.

Trump is at least a known. Not perfect, but FAR better than Obama/Bush/Biden.

this.

but the repubs and even people here are just so short sighted.

 

[anaconda]

Massie endorsing a dude that votes for war and has no discernable objection to the Fed or the Income tax? That guy? Really?

 

[acptulsa]

 

[69360]

Massie endorsing a dude that votes for war and has no discernable objection to the Fed or the Income tax? That guy? Really?

DeSantis voted against the intervention in Syria. Florida has no income tax and nobody has proposed one. DeSantis has come out against a CBDC.

 

[devil21]

As cringe as Massie endorsing DeSantis is to me, it's probably a smart political move to get ahead of his likely nomination by being one of the first to vocally support him. I've maintained that DeSantis has already been selected as GOP nominee and we're just going through the 2 year production to formalize it.

 

[Snowball]

This wouldn't have happened unless Massie has had private conversations with DeSantis and knows and trusts him.

We have to remember with all these top level players, their public speech is different than private.

 

[69360]

This wouldn't have happened unless Massie has had private conversations with DeSantis and knows and trusts him.

We have to remember with all these top level players, their public speech is different than private.

Of course he did, they were in congress together for 6 years.

 

[LibertyEagle]

As cringe as Massie endorsing DeSantis is to me, it's probably a smart political move to get ahead of his likely nomination by being one of the first to vocally support him. I've maintained that DeSantis has already been selected as GOP nominee and we're just going through the 2 year production to formalize it.

If it is true that he has already been selected, that tells me he has already sold out to the globalist agenda. Because no one since I can remember ever received that nod, unless he/she had sold their soul.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Us? Nothing tells "us" anything. Cult cucks don't see and hear the same things the rest of us do.

What's with the name-calling? What is a "cult" cock, anyway? What's the name for a bunch of people claiming to be libertarian who backed Gary Johnson and his world-government running mate? Wasn't it correct that Johnson ended up endorsing Hillary? So, perhaps the high and mighty attitude being displayed might should be squelched a bit?

 

[Occam's Banana]

[with Dave Smith:] Thomas Massie ENDORSES Ron DeSantis For President In 2024
https://odysee.com/@TimcastIRL:8/thomas-massie-endorses-ron-desantis-for:8

 

[devil21]

If it is true that he has already been selected, that tells me he has already sold out to the globalist agenda. Because no one since I can remember ever received that nod, unless he/she had sold their soul.

Who is "he"? If you mean DeSantis, he made his visit to the wall of wailing, then less than a month later dropped all Covid restrictions in FL. I remember this specifically because I was visiting FL days later and was relieved, yet intrigued, by the sudden dropping of all mask and vaccine mandates (eta: correction, I don't think vax stuff was introduced yet, just masking and distancing, etc).

That should tell you, if you were paying attention, that he was immediately setting up the foundation, after his visit to J-salem (receiving knowledge that Covid was a fake crisis and that dropping restrictions would only boost his media profile) for his 2024 run in order to appear to oppose Covid dictates, which the anti-dictate right would quickly fall in line behind.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Who is "he"? If you mean DeSantis, he made his visit to the wall of wailing, then less than a month later dropped all Covid restrictions in FL. I remember this specifically because I was visiting FL days later and was relieved, yet intrigued, by the sudden dropping of all mask and vaccine mandates.

That should tell you, if you were paying attention, that he was immediately setting up the foundation, after his visit to J-salem (receiving knowledge that Covid was a fake crisis and that dropping restrictions would only boost his media profile) for his 2024 run in order to appear to oppose Covid dictates, which the anti-dictate right would quickly fall in line behind.

Yes, I wondered the same. But, it is also possible that he did it because it was the right thing to do. Dropping the covid restrictions, that is. It rather makes me sick to my stomach when politicians do the apparent obligatory visit to the wailing wall and do a photo op.

It is my strong belief, that I came to after one hell of a lot of study, that no one at the top of either main ticket is there without having been pre-selected and approved by the top of the global elite. Honestly, I had given up on presidential politics a long time ago, until Ron Paul ran. I thought it was too far gone to save. But, I thought with Ron, maybe, just maybe, a miracle would occur and we might have a chance. We gave it our best, but we all know how that turned out. I had hoped with Trump, that because of his name-recognition, that there was a small glimmer of hope with Trump. Albeit, he was not a wart on RP's toe; at least I hoped he wouldn't make it worse than it already was, which would have been the case with anyone else. Given that Rand shot his own foot numerous times when he ran. Sadly.

At this point, I am ready for Texas to secede. I doubt they ever will, but I don't think we stand one chance in hell of saving anything from the federal level. It is far, far too far gone, in my opinion. So back to DeSantis. He has been a very good governor of Florida. But, my spidey senses are up. His voting record in the Senate was not very good and was heading worse every year. From what I have seen, the Bush family is behind him.... I haven't made my mind up yet. Not nearly. But, I also am not foolish enough to believe he is going to turn anything around. I would place my bets that he has already sold his soul. But, lets see how things progress.