Massie endorses DeSantis for President

[dannno]

That said, if Massie's goal is to get Trump to lean more libertarian, I'm all for it.

 

[jmdrake]

I'm tired of "maybes" on foreign policy.. Obama was a maybe. DeSantis' funding sources and voting record in congress are absolutely atrocious.

Trump is at least a known. Not perfect, but FAR better than Obama/Bush/Biden.

Trump's track record on foreign policy prior to being elected was NO better than Desantis'. Trump supported the Iraq war before he was against it. He supported the overthrow of Gaddafi. He supported scrapping the Iran nuclear deal (and he followed through on that garbage). Yes started tossing out some non-interventionist language before the primaries. Desantis has done the same.

 

[dannno]

Trump's track record on foreign policy prior to being elected was NO better than Desantis'. Trump supported the Iraq war before he was against it. He supported the overthrow of Gaddafi. He supported scrapping the Iran nuclear deal (and he followed through on that garbage). Yes started tossing out some non-interventionist language before the primaries. Desantis has done the same.

Trump was President. I saw his foreign policy, I don't have to guess. It was far from perfect, but if Ron Paul is in the endzone, Trump is on the 20 yardline, Obama/Bush are in the opposite endzone and DeSantis is probably somewhere between.. but I have no idea if DeSantis is on the 21 yard line or the 1 yard line on the opposite end of the field. Hard to judge from rhetoric, especially with a sketchy track record and broad financial support from neocons.

 

[CaptUSA]

Trump was President. I saw his foreign policy, I don't have to guess. It was far from perfect, but if Ron Paul is in the endzone, Trump is on the 20 yardline, Obama/Bush are in the opposite endzone and DeSantis is probably somewhere between.. but I have no idea if DeSantis is on the 21 yard line or the 1 yard line on the opposite end of the field. Hard to judge from rhetoric, especially with a sketchy track record and broad financial support from neocons.

Trump had an election stolen from him while he was in charge of the government. How the hell is he supposed to not have another one stolen from him when he's not in charge? Or is the idea to force them to steal another one and hope they make more mistakes this time? Really trying to figure out what people are trying to accomplish here.

DeSantis?? I don't know. He's a mixed bag from what I can tell. But Massie's endorsing him. That tells me something. Massie's influence in this Congress is extremely high. He played the McCarthy Speaker battle well. Having a Republican-led Congress with a President that Massie can work with sounds pretty appealing to me. The alternative sounds like more of the same.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Gotta say that I am disappointed. DeSantis looks to me like a Bush Republican. Dubya was a pretty good governor of Texas, but absolutely stunk as President. That is what I would expect from DeSantis, sadly. Also, isn't it true that he has the backing of the Bush family? I have looked up his voting record while in Congress and it was nothing to write home about. I have posted the link to it relatively recently.

Perhaps I am wrong, but the impression I have right now is that he is neocon-bent.

DeSantis is a neocon...

Trump is way better on the most important issue.

That is always a concern. Unfortunately, saw a bit of The View one day, and Bush neocon Anna Navarro was attacking DeSantis. If Lindsey Graham attacks DeSantis, I’ll start to believe that DeSantis is definitely not a neocon.

My take is that DeSantis was in the military, which always leads to suspicions about being a MIC operative. If anything, DeSantis may be a Teocon. More like Ted Cruz than Lindsey Graham.

 

[jmdrake]

Trump was President. I saw his foreign policy, I don't have to guess.

Yeah....but you took a chance on him anyway. We don't have to guess about Trump being willing to turn the country over to a scientific dictatorship run by Fauci.

It was far from perfect, but if Ron Paul is in the endzone, Trump is on the 20 yardline, Obama/Bush are in the opposite endzone and DeSantis is probably somewhere between.. but I have no idea if DeSantis is on the 21 yard line or the 1 yard line on the opposite end of the field. Hard to judge from rhetoric, especially with a sketchy track record and broad financial support from neocons.

Desantis has a congressional record. Look what I found? The OPPOSITE of necon!

https://www.wokv.com/news/local/rep...military-strike-syria/eYIjDbcd5hpQSVrw8utwjI/

Rep. DeSantis explains opposition to military strike in Syria

By Rich Jones
September 05, 2013 at 8:55 am EDT

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(Linda Bainter)
Northeast Florida Congressman Ron DeSantis says he plans to vote against the resolution authorizing military force in Syria.

Rich Jones spoke with Representative DeSantis Thursday on Jacksonville's Morning News. DeSantis said the showdown over Syria is the most one-sided issue he has seen in his time in Washington. Listen to the entire interview here.

Here is the entire statement from Representative DeSantis:

“I do not support authorizing President Obama to use military force in the Syrian civil war at this time. The Obama administration has not articulated a clear objective for using military force in Syria, much less a plan to achieve that objective. This is all the more problematic given the realities of a Syrian civil war in which Assad’s dictatorship (supported by Iran and Hezbollah) is fighting so-called rebels that are populated with Sunni Islamic supremacists and Al Qaeda fighters.

In other words, the United States does not have an interest in assisting either side of the conflict or in refereeing a civil war amongst these warring anti-American factions. Moreover, there is a danger that an ill-planned or half-hearted American attack could make it easier for terrorist groups to obtain the very type of chemical weapons that Al Qaeda and other groups have long sought to use against America.”
​

 

[jmdrake]

Gotta say that I am disappointed. DeSantis looks to me like a Bush Republican. Dubya was a pretty good governor of Texas, but absolutely stunk as President. That is what I would expect from DeSantis, sadly. Also, isn't it true that he has the backing of the Bush family? I have looked up his voting record while in Congress and it was nothing to write home about. I have posted the link to it relatively recently.

Perhaps I am wrong, but the impression I have right now is that he is neocon-bent.

Desantis is not a neocon.

https://www.wokv.com/news/local/rep...military-strike-syria/eYIjDbcd5hpQSVrw8utwjI/

 

[69360]

Come on, put it in gear. He’s running & will beat d jt

the two best Congressman are not endorsing a “I don’t know”

I like DeSantis. I just don't want to him get dragged through the mud and into the gutter with Trump. If DeSantis sat this one out because of Trump, he would breeze through the next primary and easily be the nominee. If I was him I would be waiting to see if Trump gets knocked out of the race first.

 

[Anti Globalist]

Massie shouldn't be endorsing someone that is clearly nothing more than a fall guy.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Well, that's one way to announce that there's no way in hell he's running, and make it stick.

That is rather disappointing to realize. Massie for Speaker then?

 

[nobody's_hero]

Trump had an election stolen from him while he was in charge of the government. How the hell is he supposed to not have another one stolen from him when he's not in charge? Or is the idea to force them to steal another one and hope they make more mistakes this time? Really trying to figure out what people are trying to accomplish here.

DeSantis?? I don't know. He's a mixed bag from what I can tell. But Massie's endorsing him. That tells me something. Massie's influence in this Congress is extremely high. He played the McCarthy Speaker battle well. Having a Republican-led Congress with a President that Massie can work with sounds pretty appealing to me. The alternative sounds like more of the same.

The flip side of that is that if they can steal it from Trump, they can steal it from DeSantis. And if you realize that the inverse of that, could potentially be that if DeSantis wins, then it'd be because 'they' allowed it to happen . . . for some reason. And here we are on Ron Paul forums, when someone starts agreeing with us, we change it up so as to demonstrate how obfuscating the whole thing can be.

Chasing rabbit holes.

 

[spudea]

Desantis is fine but I want scorched earth retribution and total decimation of the democrats, MIC, FBI, and globalists warmongers. Thats not Desantis, and thats not Massie for that matter either. He had a shouting match with a gun grabber recently, maybe that opened his eyes a little more.

 

[acptulsa]

Desantis is fine but I want scorched earth retribution and total decimation of the democrats, MIC, FBI, and globalists warmongers. Thats not Desantis, and thats not Massie for that matter either.

I think that would be Massie, if he thought for a second he could pull it off.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Desantis is fine but I want scorched earth retribution and total decimation of the democrats, MIC, FBI, and globalists warmongers. Thats not Desantis, and thats not Massie for that matter either. He had a shouting match with a gun grabber recently, maybe that opened his eyes a little more.

It wasn't exactly a shouting match. The liberal was shouting, but that's typical. Massie was kinda trolling the liberal actually. Voters love that stuff (for whatever reason). Massie has the principles to back it up though.

 

[LibertyEagle]

He's not.

The TX Governor's office is fairly weak and doesn't have a lot of power. Largely ceremonial.

That part is true, and initially during the pandemic he wasn't very good. But he did reverse course in the direction of freedom on that issue and set the standard for other Governors to follow.



Maybe, time will tell. But he has come out against US intervention in Ukraine.

Sorry Matt, but your declaration of what he is or isn't, isn't enough for me. Oh, and by the way, I live in Texas.

 

[LibertyEagle]

https://thenewamerican.com/freedom-index/legislator/d000621/

 

[Swordsmyth]

https://thenewamerican.com/freedom-index/legislator/d000621/

Massie can't be ignorant of how bad DS's record is.

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It was getting worse not better.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Gotta say that I am disappointed. DeSantis looks to me like a Bush Republican. Dubya was a pretty good governor of Texas, but absolutely stunk as President. That is what I would expect from DeSantis, sadly. Also, isn't it true that he has the backing of the Bush family? I have looked up his voting record while in Congress and it was nothing to write home about. I have posted the link to it relatively recently.

Perhaps I am wrong, but the impression I have right now is that he is neocon-bent.

Jeb and the whole Bush Neocon machine are running DS's campaign.

 

[Swordsmyth]

That is rather disappointing to realize. Massie for Speaker then?

He wants McConnell's Senate seat.
Which may tell us something about why he is on the DS bandwagon.

 

[nobody's_hero]

He wants McConnell's Senate seat.
Which may tell us something about why he is on the DS bandwagon.

Gotta stop you there: I don't think Massie is driven by ambition. He doesn't have the attitude for it. While I do see him getting bolder and more confrontational, he's still kinda got that 'geeky dude' vibe.

No doubt though, that most of us would be happy to see Massie in McConnell's seat. The deep state won't be the ones to give him that.