Maine Legislator Turncoat

Just another Wobbly, that 'hates" Obama more than he loves freedom.

If 2008 is any measure, wait until you see how many Wobblies show up right here on RPF.

NO ONE BUT PAUL
 
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this is the major problem i have with this guy.. he claims he is a liberty candidate that supported ron paul..... we have all been lied to by corrupt politicians for as long as we can remember... we are now trying to take a stand and elect honarable people who are trying to do the right thing... so when you openly support ron paul and claim you are all for liberty, then the day before state convention try to get as many people to vote for mitt as possible, to me that is not standing for liberty, to me that is more of the same GARBAGE we have had in office for the longest time!!! HE LIED once a liar always a liar!! he should not have liberty next to his name at all EVER AGAIN@@ he is another corrupt scmbag!!!!! that is the bottom line!
 
"Castigating anyone out of our movement who dares to make a political calculation of any sort will ultimately lead to failure of our movement. "

People leaving us to support the other side is failure. The whole point of this exercise to create a new GOP by providing a base within right it for so politicians can support us and not pay for it politically until we're the ones in charge. But instead of relying on our support, he has made the decision to back the establishment. He think they're stronger, they can help him more. Fine. He's going to find out he's badly mistaken.

Talk to any number of Republicans and they'll tell your privately Romney is going down. Any candidate trailing in Virginia of all places by seven points when the unemployment rate is officials 8.1 percent and unofficially a lot higher than that, is not a winner by any stretch of the imagination. We're offering an alternative and the campaign is not over yet. Why should we unify around a flawed candidate with an insane foreign policy stands and blood thirsty neocon advisers around him. No sir! We will not sell out for table scraps while our votes put a man into office who thinks a Christian nation should be America's No. 1 enemy.

By your logic we should all give up. But Ron Paul isn't giving up the fight so why should we?
 
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You people are guilty of putting party (or, in our case, candidate) before principle. Here we have a guy who's voting record on ISSUES (at least from what i've heard of his work on taxes in Maine) is very much in line with ours, graduated from the Von Mises Institute and endorsed Ron Paul when he had several candidates to choose from. Yet his endorsement of a candidate who's views are OBVIOUSLY not in line with his (as evidenced by his endorsement of Paul) AFTER the RNC named the guy the presumptive nominee will cause you to not support him. The fact of the matter is, yes I would rather he have kept his Paul endorsement, but he by no means some horrible nasty traitor to the liberty movement for this. If he believes in liberty on his legislative record and has a degree from the Ludwig Von Mises institute the guy is worth supporting.


Somebody said earlier that if I believe this "maybe politics is not for you". I disagree, politics is about coalition building and expanding your tent so you can better promote your philosophy on government. If he holds our philosophy on government, and you won't support him because he endorsed the presumptive GOP nominee, then perhaps politics is in fact not for you. Because the decisions you advocate, like to try to get a liberty candidate primaried for making a bad endorsement, are politically toxic to our movement and honestly you are doing us no good.
 
Anyone thinking Ron Paul's supporters are just going to drop him and get on the Romney wagon to hell is (for want of a better word) STUPID!

Romney is Obama, Obama is Romney.
 
Rocco said:
You people are guilty of putting party (or, in our case, candidate) before principle. Here we have a guy who's voting record on ISSUES (at least from what i've heard of his work on taxes in Maine) is very much in line with ours, graduated from the Von Mises Institute and endorsed Ron Paul when he had several candidates to choose from. Yet his endorsement of a candidate who's views are OBVIOUSLY not in line with his (as evidenced by his endorsement of Paul) AFTER the RNC named the guy the presumptive nominee will cause you to not support him. The fact of the matter is, yes I would rather he have kept his Paul endorsement, but he by no means some horrible nasty traitor to the liberty movement for this. If he believes in liberty on his legislative record and has a degree from the Ludwig Von Mises institute the guy is worth supporting.


Somebody said earlier that if I believe this "maybe politics is not for you". I disagree, politics is about coalition building and expanding your tent so you can better promote your philosophy on government. If he holds our philosophy on government, and you won't support him because he endorsed the presumptive GOP nominee, then perhaps politics is in fact not for you. Because the decisions you advocate, like to try to get a liberty candidate primaried for making a bad endorsement, are politically toxic to our movement and honestly you are doing us no good.
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To Rocco

Rocco: the end does not justify the means.

I come originally from a country, Argentina, that has been impoverished for one century by political conveniences first, then by plain corruption, and in recent days, frankly, by a mafia.

For the first time in my life, I have found a politician that is honest, decent, and will NEVER sacrifice his principles and ideas (with which I agree 100%, by the way) to "save" a political career, or get 1 more vote. That's what makes him so incredibly appealing to thinking individuals with high moral standards, and so atrociously unlikeable to people with dubious moral standards and emotional problems. Please think about this and don't become one more member of the atrophied masses.
 
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Multiple Paul supporters have e-mailed asking him if he got some sort of sweet deal and he claims that's not how he rolls.
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If this were really the case wouldn't other Paul supporters be saying "Romney called... he offered me $50K to endorse him. Or something like that".

You gotta figure for every one you get you get ten turn downs. So if offers like this were really going out a lot of people would be getting offers and we'd know about it.
 
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Rocco said:
You people are guilty of putting party (or, in our case, candidate) before principle. Here we have a guy who's voting record on ISSUES (at least from what i've heard of his work on taxes in Maine) is very much in line with ours, graduated from the Von Mises Institute and endorsed Ron Paul when he had several candidates to choose from. Yet his endorsement of a candidate who's views are OBVIOUSLY not in line with his (as evidenced by his endorsement of Paul) AFTER the RNC named the guy the presumptive nominee will cause you to not support him. The fact of the matter is, yes I would rather he have kept his Paul endorsement, but he by no means some horrible nasty traitor to the liberty movement for this. If he believes in liberty on his legislative record and has a degree from the Ludwig Von Mises institute the guy is worth supporting.


Somebody said earlier that if I believe this "maybe politics is not for you". I disagree, politics is about coalition building and expanding your tent so you can better promote your philosophy on government. If he holds our philosophy on government, and you won't support him because he endorsed the presumptive GOP nominee, then perhaps politics is in fact not for you. Because the decisions you advocate, like to try to get a liberty candidate primaried for making a bad endorsement, are politically toxic to our movement and honestly you are doing us no good.
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uh, no. Courage and loyalty when it really matters are principles. This shows his principles can't take pressure. If he can't take pressure, alone up there in DC with all the K street lobbyists and party whip, he's useless.

Ron stood that pressure for 30 years.
 
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bocelli said:
Rocco: the end does not justify the means.

I come originally from a country, Argentina, that has been impoverished for one century by political conveniences first, then by plain corruption, and in recent days, frankly, by a mafia.

For the first time in my life, I have found a politician that is honest, decent, and will NEVER sacrifice his principles and ideas (with which I agree 100%, by the way) to "save" a political career, or get 1 more vote. That's what makes him so incredibly appealing to thinking individuals with high moral standards, and so atrociously unlikeable to people with dubious moral standards and emotional problems. Please think about this and don't become one more member of the atrophied masses.
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You cannot give Reputation to the same post twice.
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