Lindsey Graham Mulling White House Run

My efforts within the College Republicans to undermine Graham have not been very successful. I was informed that Ravenel is bad because they say he is a crackhead, and that supposedly he's worse than the Democrat even.

Lindsey Graham makes me ashamed of living in South Carolina.
 
While libertarians fight amongst themselves over having a single candidate, the neoconservatives love to stack the deck and fill the stage.

Yeah, there's going to be a ton of hardcore neoconservatives running in 2016 if they all decide to run. Along with Graham, you may also have John Bolton, Peter King, Marco Rubio, Rick Santorum, Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, and others. That's quite a list.
 
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Lindsey Graham is like a younger version of John McCain.

He wants to go to war with everyone for everything.

A Graham presidency will guarantee WWIII.
 
This entire thread is why I preferred Obama to Romney in '12, and why knowing what I know now I am VERY glad Obama won in 2008 compared to McCain.

And, I'm one of the most personally conservative people on this forum. This is purely a foreign policy question for me. Everything is pretty much secondary when compared to impending WWIII.
 
I think I know what he is up to here....


If he runs hard then drops out after losing IA/NH but just before the SC primary, he can give all of his weight to Jeb thus helping Jeb win SC and blocking Rand from taking it. That's my guess.
 
I think I know what he is up to here....

If he runs hard then drops out after losing IA/NH but just before the SC primary, he can give all of his weight to Jeb thus helping Jeb win SC and blocking Rand from taking it. That's my guess.

I don't see any evidence Rand has a chance to win the SC primary, with or without Lindsey Graham running and endorsing Jeb.
If Mike Huckabee runs, I can see him easily winning the SC primary.
 
I don't see any evidence Rand has a chance to win the SC primary, with or without Lindsey Graham running and endorsing Jeb.
If Mike Huckabee runs, I can see him easily winning the SC primary.

No, SC voters don't want religious people as much as they want warmongers. They (wrongly) think that if we fight a hundred wars Obummer will re-open their shuttered bases and the State won't be saturated in poverty anymore.
 
No, SC voters don't want religious people as much as they want warmongers. They (wrongly) think that if we fight a hundred wars Obummer will re-open their shuttered bases and the State won't be saturated in poverty anymore.

Mike Huckabee almost beat McCain in the 2008 primary, and that was being an unknown at the time really. He campaigned hard, and was trying to win it, and came pretty close. I would imagine with his name recognition now to the GOP base, and the 2008 numbers behind him, he would take SC. And, there is nothing that I have seen of him that would mean the SC voters wouldn't get what you said they want as well.
 
Mike Huckabee almost beat McCain in the 2008 primary, and that was being an unknown at the time really. He campaigned hard, and was trying to win it, and came pretty close. I would imagine with his name recognition now to the GOP base, and the 2008 numbers behind him, he would take SC. And, there is nothing that I have seen of him that would mean the SC voters wouldn't get what you said they want as well.

aaaand Newt won in 2012 campaigning (in SC specifically) on blowing the whole planet to smithereens. Never saw much of that out and about, but I was in SC in 2012 so I saw it first hand.
 
So the list of hopefuls is now possibly: (in no particular order)

Lindsey Graham
Mitt Romney
Jeb Bush
Ben Carson
Paul Ryan
Rand Paul
Ted Cruz
Marco Rubio
John McCain?
John Bolton
Michele Bachmann
Hermann Cain
Chris Christie
Peter King
Rick Santorum
Mike Huckabee
Bobby Jindal


Yep...that GOP is coming around. Rick Perry left off intentionally. I cant see him running with the legal issues he has going on.
 
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So the list of hopefuls is now possibly: (in no particular order)

Lindsey Graham
Mitt Romney
Jeb Bush
Ben Carson
Paul Ryan
Rand Paul
Ted Cruz
Marco Rubio
John McCain?
John Bolton
Michele Bachmann
Hermann Cain
Chris Christie
Peter King
Rick Santorum
Mike Huckabee
Bobby Jindal

It's sad isn't it? 320 million people or so in the U.S. and this is the list we have to choose from to lead us? I'm really losing respect for the office of the President.
 
aaaand Newt won in 2012 campaigning (in SC specifically) on blowing the whole planet to smithereens. Never saw much of that out and about, but I was in SC in 2012 so I saw it first hand.

Yeah, McCain won it in 2008 with the "bomb bomb bomb Iran" thing probably (was that in the primary, or the general?). I just don't see anything from Huckabee that would make him not be in the running for it. Though, Newt's numbers in 2012 were incredibly high compared to the 2008 numbers in general.
In 2008, McCain won it with 147,000 votes. Huckabee 2nd with 132,000 votes.
In 2012, Newt won it with 244,000 votes. Romney 2nd with 168,000 votes.
 
So the list of hopefuls is now possibly: (in no particular order)

Lindsey Graham
Mitt Romney
Jeb Bush
Ben Carson
Paul Ryan
Rand Paul
Ted Cruz
Marco Rubio
John McCain?
John Bolton
Michele Bachmann
Hermann Cain
Chris Christie
Peter King
Rick Santorum
Mike Huckabee
Bobby Jindal


Yep...that GOP is coming around. Rick Perry left off intentionally. I cant see him running with the legal issues he has going on.

Perry would probably win if he banned flights from Africa.
 
So the list of hopefuls is now possibly: (in no particular order)

Lindsey Graham
Mitt Romney
Jeb Bush
Ben Carson
Paul Ryan
Rand Paul
Ted Cruz
Marco Rubio
John McCain?
John Bolton
Michele Bachmann
Hermann Cain
Chris Christie
Peter King
Rick Santorum
Mike Huckabee
Bobby Jindal
Ron Paul

Yep...that GOP is coming around. Rick Perry left off intentionally. I cant see him running with the legal issues he has going on.

Fixed.
 
I'm really losing respect for the office of the President.

With the track record of Presidents we've had since the Constitution was instituted...

I'm not sure if there was ever really any respect to be found in the office of President.
 
No, SC voters don't want religious people as much as they want warmongers. They (wrongly) think that if we fight a hundred wars Obummer will re-open their shuttered bases and the State won't be saturated in poverty anymore.

There is a lot of this. In Kentucky many Republicans are more independent minded (and so are the Democrats). In South Carolina they just accept whatever FOX News tells them. For instance, they know Obamacare is bad, but only because it has the word "Obama" in it. Likewise, when Bill O'Reilly tells them that Obama is abandoning America's role in the world, they believe it and want Obama to be a "strong leader."
 
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