Lindsey Graham Mulling White House Run

[Christian Liberty]

Well, sure, but it never really changes as much as you would expect it to; although this generation gap is more remarkable than any I've seen, so sure it will be quite noticeable. Doesn't mean we'll like the next generation's insanity any better, mind you.

What do you envision in 30-50 years? Mind you, by "envision" I don't mean what you would like to see, but what you think is likely to actually happen.

 

[mad cow]

If that's true, is there hope that public opinion changes dramatically once that generation dies off?

'That Generation' like all generations is constantly dying off,there are fewer of them every day.

Those that were 21 in 1944 or 1964 or even 1984 would put up with more assaults on their liberty than those who were 21 in 2014?

Hah!Then I guess you would say that America is more free today than it was back then since all of those bootlickers are dying off and it is nothing but blue skies and freedom from now on.

"Be sure to wear your seatbelt and bicycle helmet and if you see someone under the age of 12 unaccompanied by an adult,dial 911." ~ Public Service Announcement by Officer Friendly

 

[GunnyFreedom]

What do you envision in 30-50 years? Mind you, by "envision" I don't mean what you would like to see, but what you think is likely to actually happen.

I haven't been ignoring this question, I have been thinking. I'm not sure you really can answer this question. There are too many enormous changes just on the horizon, either for good or bad, and which ones happen depends on only slight variances in direction. Too many factors -- and really big factors all -- to crapshoot such a thing with any kind of accuracy.

Assuming for the sake of argument that we are not in or going in to the Kingdom on Earth by that time, technological capability will continue to grow exponentially and stuff will be commonplace that even today's best scientists would call 'magic.' Something akin to the "tech singularity" is coming, and whether it levels off due to sheer comms bandwidth or does something else we will continue to see mind-boggling progress.

I am 41. When I was young public phones were rotary. Kids today won't know what it's like to be tethered by a cable at all. A broader "datasphere" will emerge from what will become of the Internet and cell traffic and vpn (cellphone/skyping across VPNs over internet with celltower gateways and such.) <<-- is already emerging. Handhelds with "data only" and apps for voice and video that will call any telephone in the world.

There will become a broader "datasphere" of which the internet will be only a part. The widespread adoption of IPv6 will create a physical layer upon which this will map. A smart service provider will put cell-to-voip gateways in 10 major cities and partner with other Internet to POTS providers to provide ubiquitous coverage. "cellphones" as we know it will go extinct, and you will carry a 'port' to the 'datasphere' of which voice communications will only be a part. What we have now LOOKS like that, but it is not that yet.

Communications will move "at the speed of thought" and popular attention spans will continue to drop proportionately, but information will be an order of magnitude more free and available than it already is. Instead of getting frustrated at a lack of good search results from a search engine, you program your own AI to search the Internet, and provide guidance and search refinements while it works in the background.

The world will be separated into the data world and the analog world. Nations will matter less. First world third world may be referred to in the colloquial or jokes, but the real divide will be connected vs not.

Politically, well. There is too much big stuff that could happen between now and then to even hazard a guess. The obvious one is China will continue to grow in influence until their own attempt at Keynesianism finally collapses, also. Will that be before or after they have the biggest defense budget on the planet? No idea.

Unless more people wake up (highly unlikely) and reject the status quo, then America's star will fade. Which ultimately may be good for liberty folks for America to become "irrelevant." Because that, at least, will force a change.

Wearable computers will proliferate. Whomever invents a real tactile hologram is going to be the next Bill Gates.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

So, what's the path? If there isn't one, stay in the Senate. Don't waste months of supporters' time and millions of their dollars, with no path to the nomination.

Here's the (tentative) schedule through the end of February...

Jan 18 - IA

Jan 26 - NH

Feb 2 - CO, MN, MO, UT

Feb 6 - NV

Feb 13 - SC

Feb 16 - NC

Feb 23 - AZ, MI

The underlined states are one's where I think Rand has an excellent shot - based on recent polling as well as Ron's performance in 2012.

Let's run with that for a moment and suppose Rand wins those four states: IA, NH, MN, and NV.

Who wins the other states?

MO, CO, and SC will likely go to The Santorum. Not sure how UT goes sans Mormon (been 14 years since the last Mormon-free GOP primary). That means The Romney could very well be shut out of the first 8 states. The Romney's first good chance at winning is NC, followed by AZ and MI - but since The Romney's platform is always 95% electability, and he just lost 8 straight contests, maybe not. This is Rand's chance. Make it a two man race with The Santorum, so that The Romney's fair-weather fans get disillusioned and go to their second choice: which will be Rand, both because of his more moderate social stance and because he'll be perceived as more electable.

If that happened, The Santorum would sweep the deep South, and Rand would pretty well mop up everything else.

--> pop the champagne

 

[Matt Collins]

Here's the (tentative) schedule through the end of February...

Jan 18 - IA

Jan 26 - NH

Feb 2 - CO, MN, MO, UT

Feb 6 - NV

Feb 13 - SC

Feb 16 - NC

Feb 23 - AZ, MI

The underlined states are one's where I think Rand has an excellent shot - based on recent polling as well as Ron's performance in 2012.

Let's run with that for a moment and suppose Rand wins those four states: IA, NH, MN, and NV.

Who wins the other states?

I think Rand can win Michigan and Colorado, and maybe Missouri / LA too.


But the establishment candidate will likely be Jeb this time around. Huck and Santorum will cancel each other out hopefully.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

I think Rand can win Michigan and Colorado, and maybe Missouri / LA too.

What makes you think that?

But the establishment candidate will likely be Jeb this time around.

I think so too.

Huck and Santorum will cancel each other out hopefully.

In Iowa at least!

Eventually the socons/teocons will probably unite around somebody though.

 

[cindy25]

IA and NH could both Graham supporters in the senate-Kelly Ayotte and Joni Earnest are both super hawks. if they can win why couldn't Graham? he should be taken seriously

 

[lx43]

My efforts within the College Republicans to undermine Graham have not been very successful. I was informed that Ravenel is bad because they say he is a crackhead, and that supposedly he's worse than the Democrat even.

Lindsey Graham makes me ashamed of living in South Carolina.

Amen

 

[erowe1]

I hope he runs.

 

[erowe1]

I think I know what he is up to here....


If he runs hard then drops out after losing IA/NH but just before the SC primary, he can give all of his weight to Jeb thus helping Jeb win SC and blocking Rand from taking it. That's my guess.

I don't see how he would accomplish any more by doing that than he would just by not running for POTUS and endorsing Bush.

 

[erowe1]

GOVERNOR MIKE HUCKABEE is often sensible, even when being "middle of the road"
like Mitt Romney. He does not have the questionable taint of payola and corruption
Rick Perry and Rick Santorum have around them from time to time, nor the militant
militaristic flaked out saber wrattlin' that both John McCain and Lindsey Graham like
to do. Are Huck's Army people more Bible Belt than D.C beltway or has MIKE HUCKABEE
been on a learning curve and also keeping to his own internal compass? I expect him
to last longer if he runs than he did in 2008 and I also expect that SENATOR RAND PAUL
has a high degree of respect for him! He might decide to be Rand's veep after the RNC!

Whoa! Aratus sighting!!

Where have you been?

 

[osan]

Another gay POTUS? Two in a row?

Dunno... seems calling Obama "gay" promotes him stratospherically above his proper station and insults the homos with unusual cruelty.

Bammy's a freak-0-sek-shoe-Al. I bet he wears a bicycle helmet as he haplessly puffs away with his sadly inadequate poker, fearful of hurting himself . Meanwhile, Michelle snores like a lumberjack as another evening at Budoir Bammy comes to a thankfully rapid close.

 

[osan]

Well, he *is* pretty fruity - but he is NOT of genus Musa ...

But he IS of genus mucosa.

What a difference a couple of letters makes.

 

[osan]

Which one would wear the powder blue pantsuit?

Yes.

 

[osan]

What do you envision in 30-50 years? Mind you, by "envision" I don't mean what you would like to see, but what you think is likely to actually happen.

30 to 50 YEARS? I'd be hesitant to speculate that many weeks out. I'd call it anyone's guess.

 

[osan]

Mike Huckabee almost beat McCain in the 2008 primary, and that was being an unknown at the time really. He campaigned hard, and was trying to win it, and came pretty close. I would imagine with his name recognition now to the GOP base, and the 2008 numbers behind him, he would take SC. And, there is nothing that I have seen of him that would mean the SC voters wouldn't get what you said they want as well.

Yes yes... but "President HUCKABEE?" One names his teddy bear Huckabee... not a president.

 

[anaconda]

Another gay POTUS? Two in a row?

Maybe three?

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/september2007/240907_homosexual_allegations.htm