Libertarian national convention May 27–30 in Orlando (Official thread)

We've gone over this. I have refuted your positions as not quite nuanced and only half-truths. Yet, you think if you say it often enough it makes it 100% true.

You said some things, yes, but I gave numerous sources to substantiate what I said. Just because you respond, does not mean that you have successfully refuted a thing. For some reason, you think it does.
 
You said some things, yes, but I gave numerous sources to substantiate what I said. Just because you respond, does not mean that you have successfully refuted a thing. For some reason, you think it does.

Those without ears cannot listen. Those without eyes cannot read. Those with immutable opinions cannot be swayed with reason.
 
Yeah, I really can't get excited over a Johnson/Weld ticket.

Why? Gary built the party up to record numbers of voters four years ago, and is showing massive numbers in multiple polls. William Weld is a longtime Libertarian, having run on the ticket in New York back in 2006. The LP has never had such superstars running together on the same ticket, and the media is finally paying attention.
 
Those without ears cannot listen. Those without eyes cannot read. Those with immutable opinions cannot be swayed with reason.

:rolleyes: Dude, you have to utilize reason and logic in your responses in order to sway anyone with "reason".
 
Why? Gary built the party up to record numbers of voters four years ago, and is showing massive numbers in multiple polls. William Weld is a longtime Libertarian, having run on the ticket in New York back in 2006. The LP has never had such superstars running together on the same ticket, and the media is finally paying attention.

So, it's the political party that matters; not what the candidates stand for?
 
Once they nominated Johnson, they kind of accepted Weld as well. It would be incredibly lame of them to not nominate Weld as VP at this point.

If Weld was enough of a dealbraker in the first place, then they should have went with McAfee or Peterson.
 
As a libertarian political junkie with strong love for the US of A, I have reason to be excited again - it's gonna be a race to get Johnson into the debates. Maybe he'll also get Koch-funding.

Unlike last election where their stupid strategy was to spend all their money and campaigning in Washington DC in a failed bid to come in second place there to the Democrats.
 
So, it's the political party that matters; not what the candidates stand for?

Aren't you voting for Trump? What does he stand for? He's contradicted himself so often, does anyone even know? LE, you have no room to talk about "what the candidates stand for" when you've openly stated you're voting for someone who is unquestionably an authoritarian.

As for what the candidates stand for, I'm reminded of Emily Dickinson's poem:

Tell all the truth but tell it slant —

Success in Circuit lies

Too bright for our infirm Delight

The Truth's superb surprise

As Lightning to the Children eased

With explanation kind

The Truth must dazzle gradually

Or every man be blind

Those who were advocating for candidates like McAfee must know, at least on some level, that he's unelectable: a fugitive wanted for questioning in a murder case is never going to be electable. The American electorate isn't ready for that, and the media would eat him alive. Nor is a candidate who is a complete unknown (like Petersen) going to get elected. The truth of the libertarian movement must happen slowly, and through the best conduits to make that happen.

Johnson announced just a short while ago that in 2012, Judge James Gray attempted to make media appearances, but was completely cut out by our wonderful MSM. He made exactly zero appearances in the press, not for lack of trying, but because our nation's media is fucked up. Zero. William Weld has already appeared in 25 MSM interviews. That's impressive, and that's the power of a major, well-known candidate who is already known by those in the press and those in politics.

People can dig at Weld's or Gary's positions, but these guys actually ran as capital-L Libertarians knowing it was political suicide. And yet still wanting to offer an alternative for voters. And Weld did so in 2006, before the RP revolution was even going. That speaks volumes to me.
 
As a libertarian political junkie with strong love for the US of A, I have reason to be excited again - it's gonna be a race to get Johnson into the debates. Maybe he'll also get Koch-funding.

That's my hope, too. We shall see. Gary's at least got a shot at the debates, though I don't doubt the GOP and Dems will fight tooth and nail to keep him out, even if he does manage to qualify for the debates.
 
Weld may be a Libertarian but he's definitely not libertarian. Correct me but from what I've read his record suggests he's strongly anti-2a.
 
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